In this week’s episode, I am catching up with my friend and fellow astrologer, Michelle Grodnick. We get into her experience leaving a traditional corporate job to pursue astrology full-time, her experience studying astrology at the University of Oxford in the U.K. (yes, that’s a real thing!), family dynamic astrology, and the fact that we are both pregnant and expecting baby Virgo girls later this year. The main theme throughout our conversation is how astrology points to making these major life decisions, whether it’s leaving one career behind for another or deciding to become a parent, and the shifts in your priorities that come as a result.
You can find Michelle and her work at 4thhouseastrology.com or on Instagram, TikTok, and Substack @slightlyspiraling
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction to Michelle
06:08 – Family astrology + Saturn
10:48 – Studying astrology at the University of Oxford
15:55 – Stelliums and navigating social media content as an astrologer
20:13 – Transits for leaving a corporate job and pivoting to a full-time astrologer
29:29 – The astrology of our pregnancies
44:30 – Balancing motherhood with running a business
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