That UFO Podcast

This week’s UAP news is moving fast.
Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation Forum in Washington DC.
From Congress and science to intelligence secrecy, whistleblowers, psychology and public trust, the conversation is no longer just about whether UFOs are real. It is about who controls the information, who gets brought into the room, and whether we are seeing real transparency or the next stage of the cover-up.
Disclosure Forum - https://disclosure.org/
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Andy is joined by John Priestland and Dr Martin Abbass from Unhidden, a UK-based, medically led organisation looking at one of the most overlooked parts of the UAP conversation: the people.
Their new report, *Preparing for Disclosure*, asks what might happen if society is confronted with information that fundamentally changes our understanding of reality, and whether governments, health systems, doctors, therapists and communities are remotely prepared for the psychological and social impact.
This conversation explores stigma, experiencers, mental health, ontological shock, public health preparedness, the role of clinicians, and why disclosure — if it ever comes — may not only be a political or scientific issue, but a human one.
A different kind of conversation, but an important one.
https://www.unhidden.org/
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Professor Avi Loeb returns to That UFO Podcast following his appointment to lead the Science Advisory Council supporting the new U.S. government UAP governance structure.
In this conversation, Avi explains how the council came together, who is involved, how it will interact with government agencies, and whether meaningful progress can be made using only unclassified information.
We discuss the latest UAP file releases, the role of skepticism within the council, why Michael Shermer was included, whistleblower protections, transparency, and whether the public can expect regular updates from the group's work.
We also explore Avi's views on crash retrieval claims, biologics, the possibility of non-human technology, and the debate surrounding Dr. Beatriz Villarroel's pre-Sputnik transient research.
Topics include:
• The new U.S. UAP governance structure
• Avi's role leading the Science Advisory Council
• Access to classified vs unclassified data
• Recent UAP document releases
• Crash retrieval and biologics claims
• Whistleblower protections
• Michael Shermer's inclusion on the council
• Beatriz Villarroel's transient research
• The search for conclusive evidence
Got thoughts on the new council or a question for a future Avi Loeb appearance? Let me know in the comments.
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/
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In Part 2 of my extended conversation with Richard Dolan, we move beyond disclosure politics and into some of the deepest questions surrounding the UFO phenomenon.
We discuss whether some aspects of the phenomenon may be darker than many researchers are willing to admit, why Richard believes humanity may be facing challenges of its own making, and what decades of UFO and USO reports suggest about the behaviour of the intelligence behind these encounters.
Drawing on research from his new book, A History of USOs Volume 2, Richard explains how studying patterns across thousands of cases has changed his understanding of the phenomenon and what it may reveal about the long-term presence of these objects around our planet.
We also discuss:

 Whether the phenomenon has our best interests at heart 

 The listener question asking if Richard is "holding something back" 

 Alien behaviour and adaptation 

 Humanity's future and technological dependence 

 Why Richard fears human actions more than non-human intelligence 

 Historical and modern USO cases 

 Underwater UFO encounters 

 Behavioural patterns across decades of sightings 

 The USS Franklin D. Roosevelt case 

 How Richard researched and analysed thousands of reports 

 What the data may reveal about the phenomenon's intentions 

This is Part 2 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan.
Richards new book - https://amzn.eu/d/0f8bTqTs
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Richard Dolan returns to That UFO Podcast for a deep dive into the biggest developments in the UFO/UAP conversation right now.
In Part 1, we focus on the latest UFO file releases, the ongoing push for transparency, David Grusch's recent comments, and whether what we're witnessing is actually disclosure—or something very different.
Richard shares his thoughts on the apparent battle between transparency and secrecy factions, why he believes many people have become caught up in "disclosure mania," and what historical government records reveal about recurring UFO waves and patterns stretching back decades.
We also discuss:

 The latest war.gov/UFO file releases 

 David Grusch and whistleblower protections 

 Whether disclosure is really happening 

 Historical UFO cycles and patterns 

 The 1948 documents and recurring waves 

 The difference between disclosure and contact 

 Alien behaviour and what the phenomenon appears to be doing 

 AI and its impact on humanity's future 

 Why Richard rejects predictions of imminent disclosure events 

 Chris Bledsoe, Lue Elizondo and "something is coming" narratives 

 The current state of the UFO conversation in 2026 

This is Part 1 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan.
Part 2 will focus on USOs, underwater mysteries, the darker aspects of the phenomenon, humanity's future, and Richard's latest research.
Richards new book - https://amzn.eu/d/0f8bTqTs
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