Adventures of Alice & Bob

• Ep. 77 - Bugs in the System: When Moths Hack Power Plants // Lesley Carhart

  In this episode, James Maude chats with industrial cybersecurity expert Lesley Carhart (aka "Hacks for Pancakes"), whose journey from programming on her family farm to protecting critical infrastructure was shaped by curiosity and determination. Lesley reveals how moths accidentally activating a power plant touchscreen led to a late-night "Chinese hackers" investigation, explains why she carries a "marriage counseling" sign when mediating between feuding IT and OT teams, and delivers a passionate wake-up call about the industry's mentorship crisis and the brutal reality facing cybersecurity newcomers today.

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• Ep. 76 - Phishing, Predictions, and Starship Troopers // Brian Kime

  In this episode, James Maude chats with cyber threat intel pro Brian Kime, whose journey from the Army’s infamous “chemical guy” to security expert was partly inspired by Starship Troopers. Brian dishes on his legendary Dell SecureWorks phishing op that hit a wild 50% click rate—by predicting an IPO years ahead of time. He also unpacks why vulnerability management can stall business and how design thinking can reshape threat intel.

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• Ep. 75 - DOS Viruses & Catching Chinese APT Hackers // Roger Grimes

  James Maude chats with Roger Grimes, a 36-year cyber veteran and KnowBe4’s Defense Evangelist. From hacking DOS viruses for John McAfee to catching Chinese APT hackers red-handed, Roger’s war stories are unforgettable. But he’s not just here for the drama—he lays out a bold plan to fix Internet security and reveals why social engineering remains our biggest blind spot. Don't miss this episode—it's a masterclass in cyber warfare, deception, and the battle for a safer digital future!

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• Ep. 74 - The Accidental Worm that Shutdown a University // Sounil Yu

  In this episode, James sits down with Sounil Yu, the mind behind the Cyber Defense Matrix and DIE Triad frameworks that have transformed how organizations approach security. From his early days getting stuffed in lockers as a self-described computer geek to becoming a disruptive force at Bank of America and co-founding Gnostic, Sounil shares the mental models that have guided his three-decade journey in cybersecurity. They discuss how an accidental college worm shutdown taught valuable lessons in OpSec, and why Sounil starts with the icebreaker question: "What's the most IT damage you've caused without getting fired?"

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• Ep. 73 - How a Magazine Article Led to a Cybersecurity Empire // Richard Stiennon

  In this episode, James chats with Richard Stiennon—cybersecurity analyst, author, and former aerospace engineer—whose 20+ year journey spans from designing car seats to hacking corporate systems for giants like Dell. Hear how a 1992 magazine article led him to launch his own ISP and rise to prominence at Gartner. Richard shares his personal stories from the frontlines of cybersecurity, his crusade against risk management jargon, and bold predictions on AI’s impact on security. Plus, private jet mishaps and the unconventional wisdom behind IT Harvest.

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