Prog & Progeny

This week Mark and Tallulah talk through a difficult chapter in the band’s past: being dropped by EMI, ongoing money problems, Mark nearly ending up homeless, and the lack of support from their manager who suggested day jobs for the band might be the way forward. The conversation stays surprisingly light, including stories from Mark’s tumultuous love life.

In this episode Mark and Tallulah sit down with producer Dave Meegan to explore the making of Brave.
Dave takes us inside the long nights, impossible standards, and creative tension that shaped one of Marillion’s most ambitious albums — from a French château to Liverpool over more than 7 months.
We talk about why Brave took so long, the danger of rushing creativity, and the fragile moments where everything finally locks into place.
An honest look at what it really costs to make something that lasts.
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In this episode Mark and Tallulah sit down with producer Dave Meegan to explore the making of Brave.
Dave takes us inside the long nights, impossible standards, and creative tension that shaped one of Marillion’s most ambitious albums — from a French château to Liverpool over more than 7 months.
We talk about why Brave took so long, the danger of rushing creativity, and the fragile moments where everything finally locks into place.
An honest look at what it really costs to make something that lasts.

In this episode Mark and Tallulah dive deep into the making of Brave— Marillion’s most ambitious and uncompromising album. They discuss creative freedom, financial uncertainty, and the quiet decisions that laid the groundwork for the band’s independence.

In this episode Mark & Tallulah chat with Smick, Ian's drum tech from the mid 1980s and later the crew boss. Smick recounts how he started working in music and his first meeting with Marillion - and the cool reception from Ian.
He also describes the chaotic management style of John Arnison, including when he buried the band's takings in bin bags and forgot where he buried it. 
Support the show
Become a member and get some great extras including unreleased Mark Kelly music
https://www.patreon.com/c/progandprogeny/membership
Buy Mark's Autobiography - Marillion, Misadventures and Marathons at
https://www.marillion.com/shop/merch/book06.htm
email your questions to us at [email protected]