Don't Be Ugly

Caroline & Phillip debate who their therapist's favorite patient is, whether cars have pretty privilege, which famous historical figures might have been gay, and what Phillip should do after a gym employee read his personal diary.
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Recovering from last night’s studio fire, Caroline & Phillip return to a podcast studio in ruins to discuss Phillip’s magazine feature, Caroline’s TikTok cancellation, their chaotic weekend apart, and the bizarre success of a movie named after a minivan.
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After Caroline opens up about her phone-free retreat, Phillip catches her up on everything she missed: the celebrity divorce no one saw coming, a new wave of trad-wife teens, life under a totalitarian dictatorship, and the dangers of climbing Mount Everest.
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Caroline & Phillip discuss whether your name determines your fate, Harvard's admissions policies, their family's global footprint, Taylor Swift's flop wedding ceremony, a blonde Mona Lisa, and the ridiculous ways people raise money for charity.
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Phillip admits he got scammed by a fake psychic (shocking). Caroline panics about her boyfriend flirting at a gym she doesn't attend. She also cancels 4th of July after Phillip points out her social circle is more of a triangle. All while exposing the Fairytale Industrial Complex.
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