In-Between Charges

• Forging Winners in a Market Slowdown with Rami Syväri from beY0nd

  In this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike sit down with Rami Syväri, advisor and founder at beY0nd, to unpack the evolving dynamics of performance, strategy, and resilience in the EV charging industry. With a rich background spanning Fortum, Swisscharge, and now advising CPOs across Europe, Rami brings a front-row perspective to what “good” really looks like in a CPO’s operation, and where the industry still has work to do.Together, they dive deep into the importance of transparency, the power of benchmarking, and how operators can meaningfully compare themselves to peers without compromising sensitive data. Rami shares insights on building scalable, future-proof charging businesses, the operational maturity journey of CPOs, and why now, amidst market “hiccups,” is the time when tomorrow’s winners are forged.From tech stack choices to the business case for ultra-slow charging, and from strategic pivots to trust-building through anonymized data models, this episode is a masterclass in navigating the high-stakes, fast-changing EV ecosystem.Key Topics:The DNA of CPO success and benchmarking KPIs that matterWhy ultra-slow charging might just be the next big thingThe "ketchup bottle effect" of delayed EV adoption and its implicationsPlatform vs. in-house software: when to build, when to partnerHow to prepare now for the next wave of growthTune in for a grounded, strategic look at where the EV industry is headed—and how to get there with confidence. Happy charging!

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• Fixing EV Charging in America: Building Better Networks with Chris Kaiser from PlugIn

  In this episode of In-Between Charges, Kevin and Mike welcome Chris Kaiser, founder of PlugIn and longtime clean energy advocate. Chris shares his journey from energy-efficient lighting to launching his own EV charging network, which is built on reliability, a great driver experience, and, now, the Monta platform. His story offers a candid look at what it takes to build a charging business in the U.S. from the ground up.They dive into why many early charging efforts failed, the dominance of Tesla and ChargePoint, and why Chris believes ownership and accountability are key to long-term success. He explains how metrics like PlugShare scores and kWh per day guide his team’s approach, and how pairing strong software with trusted hardware is helping Plug In grow.The conversation also covers the uncertain policy landscape, including tax credits and NEVI funding, and why Chris remains optimistic. His belief is simple: EVs are just better—and that’s what will drive adoption forward. If you care about the future of charging in the U.S., this is an episode you won’t want to miss.Happy charging!

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• Smart Solutions for Fleet Electrification and Cost Efficiency with Heiko Bayer from The Mobility House

  In this episode of In-Between Charges, hosts Kevin Spangenberg and Mike Hawkes talk with Heiko Bayer, Managing Director at The Mobility House. Heiko shares how the company is helping fleets transition to electric a smarter approach to fleet management, and energy market integrations. He explains how The Mobility House reduces their client’s costs, increases their reliability, and simplifies the electrification for businesses across Europe, North America and Asia.The conversation explores trends shaping the EV industry, one continent versus the next. In Europe, corporate and logistics fleets are electrifying fast, while in the U.S., school bus and transit fleets are leading the space, tapping into bidirectional charging already. Heiko explains why The Mobility House takes on an agnostic approach - not locking people in, but rather unlocking the best offer and chances for operational efficiency with unnecessary costs.As EV adoption grows, the role of energy management is becoming more important. Heiko discusses how integrating smart charging, battery storage, and renewable energy can make fleet electrification more affordable. Whether you're an industry professional or just interested in EVs, this episode offers key insights into the future of mobility.Happy charging!

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• EV Charging’s Big Bet: Automakers, Policy Uncertainty, and the Push for Profitability with Ryan Fisher from BloombergNEF (he’s back!)

  In this episode of In-Between Charges, we welcome back Ryan Fisher, Head of Charging Infrastructure at BloombergNEF, for an insightful discussion on the evolving EV charging landscape. With automakers increasingly stepping into the charging business, we explore how their strategies are shifting—balancing investment in infrastructure with the need for profitability. Ryan shares his take on why major players like IONNA and Ionity are forming joint ventures, how automakers are leveraging charging networks to enhance brand loyalty, and whether the business model can ever be as lucrative as selling vehicles.Beyond industry strategies, we also dive into the growing impact of policy changes on the EV ecosystem. From shifting fuel economy standards in the U.S. to evolving CO₂ regulations in Europe, Ryan explains how government intervention is shaping investment decisions. He also unpacks the recent volatility in EV adoption forecasts, the implications of paused NEVI funding, and why some markets are seeing surging charging costs while others remain competitive. With policy uncertainty looming, is the industry at an inflection point?Finally, we tackle the economic realities of charging infrastructure—where margins remain tight despite growing demand. Ryan sheds light on the challenges facing hardware manufacturers, the potential role of carbon credits in sustaining networks, and whether automakers will remain invested in charging long-term or eventually offload their networks. With insights from BloombergNEF’s latest research and real-world case studies, this episode is a must-listen for anyone following the future of EV charging, policy, and electrification.Happy charging!

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• The role of community in driving clean energy forward, with Gavin Morse from Egg

  In this episode, we chat with Gavin Morse, CMO of Egg, about how community-driven initiatives are making clean energy more accessible, reducing strain on the grid, and creating new opportunities for consumers.Here’s what we cover:How the UK became Europe’s top EV market and what’s next.The impact of local initiativesMaking clean energy affordable: practical solutions for EV charging, solar, and home batteries.How Egg Energy measures the impact of its community initiatives, balancing business outcomes with contributions to the broader energy transition.Exploring other community-focused strategies Egg Energy is using to engage local groups and drive wider adoption of clean energy solutions.Building a brand in an industry where customer loyalty to utility companies is rare, and how Egg Energy fosters trust with its customers.If you’re looking for practical solutions to make clean energy more accessible, or want to understand how communities are driving the change needed for a sustainable future, don’t miss this episode. Tune in for a fresh perspective on how communities are shaping the future of energy.

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