Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

• Ep 5: Beyond The Telling: Listening To & Interpreting Experiencer Narratives

  For fans of the old school deep dives from The UFO Rabbit Hole, this episode is for you. For many, the biggest challenge in engaging with UFOs, NHIs, and the anomalous isn’t a lack of evidence, but the nature of the evidence itself. The best data we have comes from experiencers—those who have directly encountered the unknown. But their stories are often so strange, so far outside of our frameworks, that even the most open-minded struggle with how to approach them.In this episode, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take on this challenge head-on, exploring:🔹 Why experiencer testimony is the most important—and most misunderstood—source of insight into the phenomenon🔹 The impact of memory, trauma, and perception on anomalous encounters🔹 How bias, belief systems, and cultural stigma shape the UFO narrative🔹 The role of consciousness in contact phenomena—and why reality may be stranger than we think🔹 How to listen to experiencer narratives with both discernment and radical opennessWe also examine cutting-edge models from Jacques Vallée, Eric Davis, Diana Pasulka, Jeffrey Kripal, James Madden, and others, to uncover new ways of understanding the impossible.This episode isn’t just about listening—it’s about learning to perceive the phenomenon in an entirely new way. ———————————————————————Thank you to Magic Mind for sponsoring this episode. Try Magic MindIf you’re like to try Magic Mind, go to https://www.magicmind.com/cosmosis and use code COSMOSIS20 to get you up to 48% off your first subscription for the next 10 days or 20% off for a one-time purchase. Check out the science behind Magic Mind: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J7lHKMS_LqwWNvAIujShBs4IbCzsgOM_/view?pli=1——————————————————————— Mentioned in This Episode📖 American Cosmic by Diana Walsh Pasulka – [https://a.co/d/fYxuZ2m]📖 Unidentified Flying Hyper Object by James Madden – [https://a.co/d/iVOtkYA]📖 The Case Against Reality by Donald Hoffman – [https://a.co/d/4yKbKNa]📖 Hyperobjects: Philosophy and Ecology After the End of the World by Timothy Morton – [https://a.co/d/i8u1qaz]📖 Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness by Jacques Vallée & Eric Davis – [Read here: https://www.academia.edu/36788970/Incommensurability_Orthodoxy_and_the_Physics_of_High_Strangeness_A_six_layer_model_for_Anomalous_Phenomena]🎙️ The Experiencer Group – Support at [https://tegmembers.com]Support The Experiencer Group:https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=TBPJNDVY9QJFUWatch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS03:23 The Challenge of UFO Testimonies04:35 The Nature of Extraordinary Evidence06:31 The Complexity of Experiencer Narratives13:08 The Role of Trauma and Memory14:29 The Experiencer Group and Its Mission15:41 Subjectivity and Inconsistencies in Reports19:01 The Bigger Picture of Anomalous Experiences21:40 Philosophical Perspectives on Truth and Reality25:45 Quantum Mechanics and Anomalous Experiences28:29 Frameworks for Understanding the Phenomenon29:57 The Concept of Redaction in UFO Narratives32:44 The Nature of Redaction in UFO Testimonies34:05 Navigating Redaction in Experiencer Testimonies37:05 The Six-Layer Model of Anomalous Phenomena44:16 The Filter Thesis and Anomalous Experiences48:53 Trauma, Mental Health, and Substance Abuse in Experiencers53:55 Hyperobjects and the Nature of UFO Phenomena56:55 Semiotics and the Interpretation of Anomalous Encounters01:00:44 Conclusion: Embracing the Unknown

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• Ep 4: Whitley Strieber: Contact, Telepathy, and the Veil Between Worlds

  Watch the full video interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/kF8yImSnX1YIn this gripping continuation of our conversation with legendary author and experiencer Whitley Strieber, we venture even deeper into the nature of the Visitors—what they are, how they relate to time, and what it truly means to engage with an intelligence that exists just beyond the limits of human comprehension.This episode challenges the boundaries of our understanding as Whitley explores:🔹 The role of human consciousness in shaping contact phenomena🔹 Why the living and the dead must work together to reach the next stage of evolution🔹 The hidden reality of telepathic communication and its profound implications🔹 How social engineering and stigma have shaped the UFO narrative—and why that’s changing🔹 The military’s secret interest in experiencers and the possible manipulation of contact phenomenaWhitley also shares deeply personal insights into his own experiences, the afterlife, and the unseen forces at play in our reality. This is a conversation that demands reflection, openness, and a willingness to embrace the unknown.📖 The Fourth Mind by Whitley Strieber – https://a.co/d/3Tj8G2i📚 Them by Whitley Strieber – https://a.co/d/gqYziUQ🎥 Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – Watch at Cosmosis.Media🎙️ Dreamland Podcast – Hosted by Whitley Strieber at UnknownCountry.comWatch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yCTIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction 03:46 Clip from Cosmosis: UFOs and a New Reality05:45 The Role of Human Consciousness in Encounters06:26 Historical and Cultural Context of Encounters11:31 The Importance of Telepathy12:31 Challenges in Understanding and Acceptance13:51 Navigating Disinformation and Manipulation27:15 Personal Experiences and Integration33:02 The Stigma and Scientific Resistance53:18 Final Thoughts and Future Directions

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• Ep 3: Whitley Strieber: The Fourth Mind & Our Surprising Connection to NHIs

  See the full interview on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/s4IDqWGlWBUIn this thought-provoking conversation, legendary author and experiencer Whitley Strieber joins Kelly and Jay to discuss his groundbreaking new book, The Fourth Mind. Whitley explores the anatomy, intelligence, and consciousness of the beings he refers to as "the Visitors"—entities many associate with the Greys. He shares profound insights into their nature, their relationship to time, and why their presence on Earth may be more intertwined with us than we realize.This episode takes a deep dive into:🔹 How our brains struggle to process encounters with the unknown🔹 The concept of the "fourth mind" and why it's missing in us but not in them🔹 The Visitors' relationship to time and their desperate need to reconnect with the present moment🔹 The risks and rewards of telepathic contact with non-human intelligence🔹 The role of experiencers in shaping our collective understanding of these phenomenaWhitley also opens up about his lifelong experiences, the mysterious nature of the Visitors, and the deeper implications of our interactions with them. Prepare for a conversation that will challenge your perceptions of reality.Mentioned in This Episode📖 The Fourth Mind by Whitley Strieber –https://a.co/d/3Tj8G2i📚 Them by Whitley Strieber – https://a.co/d/gqYziUQ🎥 Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – Watch at Cosmosis.Media🎙️ Dreamland Podcast – Hosted by Whitley Strieber at UnknownCountry.com💫 Stay Tuned for Part 2 Next Week!Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yCContact Us:[email protected]:00:00 Introduction and Welcome01:43 Introducing Whitley Strieber06:16 Exploring the Fourth Mind Concept09:57 The Visitors and Their Nature14:34 Communion and Its Significance19:57 Differences and Similarities with the Grays28:01 The Role of the Visitors in Human History33:07 Exploring Subjectivity and Objectivity in Phenomena37:01 Meditation and Contact Work38:44 The Nature of the Greys40:28 Experiencing the Visitors47:37 The Importance of Telepathy01:00:16 The Urgency of the Fourth Mind01:03:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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• Ep 2: Courtney Leffall [Pt 2]: Integrating the Anomalous

  See the full interview on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/EStI_rnPDRUIn this episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King welcome back experiencer Courtney Leffall, whose story was featured in Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality. Together, they explore the deeply personal and societal implications of anomalous experiences, the role of disclosure, and how we integrate these experiences into our lives. Courtney shares his thoughts on government transparency, the connection between UFOs and ancestral spirits, and the need for interdisciplinary collaboration in understanding these phenomena.This episode of Cosmosis offers a deeply personal and intellectual dive into the experiencer phenomenon, government disclosure, and the spiritual implications of UFO contact. Courtney Leffall provides a unique and necessary perspective, bridging religious, cultural, and experiencer narratives to offer a more holistic view of what may be unfolding.Listeners are left with a challenge: Can we break down our own biases and expand the conversation to include perspectives we may have previously dismissed?Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yCContact Us: [email protected] & Key Topics:00:00:00 – Introduction: Future Human Hypothesis & Consciousness 00:01:12 – Welcome & Podcast Background00:03:25 – Courtney’s UFO Encounter: Intelligent Control00:05:37 – What Disclosure Means: Government Transparency & Secrecy 00:08:14 – Trust & Testimony: Do We Need Government Validation? 00:14:09 – High Strangeness: Beyond UFO Sightings00:18:42 – Breaking Silos: Scientists, Experiencers & Philosophers 00:23:56 – Integrating Anomalous Experiences: Self-Acceptance 00:29:33 – UFOs & The Dead: Ancestral Spirits & Contact00:38:21 – CE5 & Summoning: The Risks of Contact00:45:45 – Are UFOs Demonic? Faith & The Phenomenon00:51:18 – Race, Culture & The UFO Community00:58:06 – Inclusivity: Expanding the Conversation01:08:44 – What the Phenomenon Tells Us About Humanity01:11:29 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action

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• Ep 1: Courtney Leffall [Pt 1]: UFOs, Psi, and a Paranormal Legacy

  In the first episode of Cosmosis, we’re bringing you one of the most compelling experiencer stories we’ve ever encountered. Courtney Leffall had never told his story publicly before it appeared in our docuseries Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality, and once you hear it, you’ll understand why. His experiences don’t fit neatly into any single category—crossing the boundaries between psi phenomena, precognition, UFO encounters, messages from dead ancestors, and even the eerie mystery of cattle mutilations.There’s a hidden thread connecting these phenomena—one that the mainstream conversation about UFOs often ignores. Courtney’s story is a rare and striking example of how deep that thread runs and how impossible it is to untangle. His experiences force us to confront an unsettling question: What if the reality we think we know is just the smallest fraction of what actually exists?Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:https://www.cosmosis.media/Join the Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismediaSubscribe to Cosmosis:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.PodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479dApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107Follow CosmosisX: https://x.com/cosmosis_mediaFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfrInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.mediaListen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQApple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yCContact Us:[email protected] 

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