Inquiry with Kelly Chase

No UFO Amnesty
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If you’ve been following me on Instagram or X, you are already aware that I am currently in the process of coming forward with the full story of what happened to me in 2023. It is a process that is happening in stages because I am naming powerful people and known members of the intelligence community and I need to move methodically to ensure my safety and the safety of others. I am afraid, but I am more afraid of one day meeting my maker and explaining how I wasn’t brave enough to speak up in the face of depraved acts of exploitation and abuse. If I was the only one impacted, I would lick my wounds and move on. But there are so many others. Many of them are also afraid. Everything I am doing now is for them. The outlines of what I have revealed so far are this:

Myself and another woman were drugged in Palo Alto on the day after the first Sol symposium, which was Sunday, November 19th, 2023. I believe, based on other information I have collected, that we were likely drugged by my former business partner, Jay Christopher King, but I can’t know that for sure. Multiple big names, including Leslie Kean, knew what happened to us and were involved in convincing us to not file a police report. I was told at the time that this was a military abduction carried out by a shadowy team led by retired Army Col. John Alexander and that it had been reported directly to the DoD who could address it in ways that the police could not. I believed this for years. But in April of this year, when I received allegations of sexual misconduct about Jay, the details of those allegations made me reconsider what occurred that night.

I have raised other issues of concern. One issue is whether or not Garry Nolan was made aware of the fact that three people who had been invited to the conference had been drugged at the hotel where all of the conference speakers were staying, allegedly by another one of the conference attendees. I was told by Leslie Kean that Garry had been made aware of the situation. I found it very strange and disconcerting at the time that the morning after the drugging event Garry only reached out to cancel a scheduled interview with us for our docuseries and never said anything else about it.

So I asked Garry Nolan on X, whether or not he knew. He responded that he did not know. I encourage you to go look at that exchange which is documented on my X and Instagram accounts to draw your own conclusions. For now, I have no reason not to take Garry at his word that he didn’t know. He has encouraged me to file a police report, which I have done and will be publicly available in the next couple of days. But if we’re working from the assumption that Garry Nolan is telling the truth about not knowing, then that means that Leslie Kean lied when she told us that Garry had been alerted to what happened to us. I’d like to know why that is.

I’d also like to know why she was so certain it was John Alexander who was responsible for the MILAB? What was the nature of the report that we were told was filed at the DoD? Where did that report go and what ever came of it?

I’m asking these questions publicly because I have been lied to, gaslit, and terrorized for three years about what happened on Nov 19, 2023 in Palo Alto. I don’t know what actually happened to me, but I do know that multiple crimes were committed by someone, and everyone seems to be lying about it. I can’t make sense of anyone’s actions. And so I’m going to ask these questions in public. If they are answered privately, I will make those answers public. This is going to happen in the bright light of day. I am going to find out what happened that night, and I’m going to make sure that everyone else knows what happened that night, too.So that’s one set of issues that I have been speaking about publicly. There are others which I will dive into in more detail soon. What is going on in the worlds of ufology, psionics, and consciousness studies is extraordinarily dark, and it is wide-reaching. And the rot reaches all the way to the top—to people I once considered heroes, as well as colleagues and friends. I’ve seen it, and now that I have regained my agency and my voice, they are literally never going to shut me up about what has happened to me and so many other innocent people who were only looking for community and answers to life’s greatest mysteries.

In the coming days and weeks I’m going to lay out my own story in detail. I will name every name and I will tell you everything that I know about what happened on the night of Nov 19, 2023. It is my hope that others will join me when they see the power that the truth holds.

I believe that they will. This wave has been rising, and the time to speak is now.

For today, this episode I’m about to share with you is something that I actually wrote a few weeks ago after David Grusch appeared on Joe Rogan. But I scrapped at the time because I decided it was too risky to release it. But now that I’ve decided to go public with my story, it occurs to me that it is actually the perfect introduction and provides some critical context to the questions that I will be asking about what happened that night.

So let’s do it.

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In this Halloween episode, I begin a new series on Plato’s Cave and why I've come to believe that the cave is not simply an allegory, but the manifest reality of human experience.

I revisit the anomalous experience that obliterated everything I thought I knew about reality, and explore its parallels with near-death experiences and the kind of spiritual death that comes with seeing beyond the shadows. But leaving the cave is only half the story. What happens when you return?

I've come to think that returning from the cave is a lot like becoming a ghost. And just like a ghost, you're very likely to scare your family and friends.

Topics explored: Plato’s Cave | anomalous experiences | spiritual death | near-death experiences | mystical experiences | astrology | Socrates | ghost folklore | Victorian spiritualism | the loneliness of transformation | truth and belief

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Plato’s Republic, Book VII — The Allegory of the Cave

Through the Looking Glass: My Initiation Into the Anomalous — The UFO Rabbit Hole

The Astrology of NDEs — Laura Bruno (Preorder Information)

Dial Tone with Daniel Noah — SpectreVision Radio

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03:09 Introduction04:37 From Darkness to Light10:20 Dying To The World15:13 Becoming A Ghost

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In this episode of Inquiry, Kelly Chase sits down with author Joshua Cutchin to discuss his latest book, The Inverted Path: Supernatural Disorientation and Interruptions in Travel. At the center of the conversation is the strange phenomenon of being "pixie-led," an experience in which people become inexplicably lost, compelled to wander, or unable to leave familiar places. Josh traces these patterns across centuries of fairy lore, UFO encounters, ghost stories, and cryptid sightings, uncovering surprising similarities between experiences we usually treat as unrelated.

From there, the conversation moves into stranger territory. What if the phenomenon operates according to narrative rather than ordinary physical causation? Kelly and Josh explore the role of disorientation, interruption, and uncertainty in anomalous experiences, and how getting lost might sometimes be the beginning of finding something. They discuss the relationship between trauma and transformation, the importance of mystery, and whether the modern push for UFO disclosure risks overlooking what makes these experiences meaningful in the first place.

Finally, they consider whether humanity is approaching some larger shift in consciousness, and what that might actually look like. Rather than a single moment of revelation, perhaps the change we're waiting for is already unfolding through individual experiences, cultural transformation, and the gradual re-enchantment of everyday life.

Topics explored: Joshua Cutchin | The Inverted Path | pixie-led phenomenon | fairy folklore | supernatural disorientation | UFO encounters | paranormal experiences | cryptozoology | ghost encounters | anomalous travel | missing time | engine stoppage | Budd Hopkins | Kenneth Ring | reality discontinuities | perception and reality | narrative structure | Fourth Wall Phantoms | synchronicity | re-enchantment | UFO disclosure | the phenomenon | Jeffrey Kripal | trauma and transformation | sacrifice | Charles Fort | personal gnosis | consciousness | cultural awakening | experiencer experiences

Inquiry with Kelly Chase is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.Produced in partnership with Voltage.fm.

Referenced In This Episode

The Inverted Path: Supernatural Disorientation and Interruptions in Travel — Joshua Cutchin

Ecology of Souls — Joshua Cutchin

Where the Footprints End — Joshua Cutchin & Timothy Renner

Fourth Wall Phantoms — Joshua Cutchin

The Middle Kingdom — Dermot MacManus

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Join Kelly and Josh at Lights in the Sky Art Gallery in Richmond, Virginia, on October 18, 2026, from 3–6 PM for a celebration of the Visions of Bigfoot publication, featuring artist talks, music from DJ Woodbooger, and more.

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Kelly Chase (Inquiry with Kelly Chase) is back, which makes her the default president of the GGU returning-guests club. This week, we ask the question we’re asking everyone: what do most people think isn't real that you do?

She gives a spicy answer. She claims that most people behave like materialists, even if they go to church.

From there, we talk about what the evidences of belief actually are, and how it relates to “conversion.” Kelly explains how her own experience rewrote her whole value system in a matter of seconds five years ago.

As usual, we figured everything out and solved all the world’s problems.

You’re welcome!

• Most people behave like materialists, even the religious ones

• Religion as lava that cools into obsidian

• The reemergence of the feminine

• “Tell me what music is.”

• “The greatest evidence it happened is me”

• Great evidence for an individual, terrible evidence for the collective

• The old version of Kelly is horrified, tied up in a back room somewhere

• Molly Drake — “I remember firelight, and you remember smoke”

• Conversion is what you do, not what you say

• All behavior is downstream of belief

• “I think my job is fake”

• Is everyone waking up?

• AI is literally sociopathic

nd in the epilogue…

• Kelly tells us about how she recently maybe saw fairies

(possibly our best paywall-bait yet)

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