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Emotions of Change

Michelle Grant
Emotions of Change
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  • When guilt becomes the fuel
    Ep. 3 - When guilt becomes the fuel: Renata Minerbo, Miki Kashtan and Aurelia Saint-Just on Guilt.What happens when the fuel behind your change work isn't just clarity or care, but also guilt?In this episode of Emotions of Change, Brazilian social entrepreneur Renata shares how the weight of privilege slowly pushed her from purpose into burnout, and what happened when she finally stopped to question the guilt driving her.Alongside reflections from host Michelle Grant and insights from non-violent communication teachers and practitioners Miki Kashtan and Aurelia Saint-Just, we explore what guilt is really doing in our work, and how we can begin to move through it. Miki introduces a four-stage framework for processing the guilt of privilege - taking us from denial, guilt or shame, to tenderness and collective stewardship. This episode offers a map, and a deeply human story for navigating one of the hardest emotions in change work.Further information:To read more about the four step process, and to see the transcript to the full interview with Miki and Aurelia on how to navigate the guilt of privilege, scroll down to the bottom of the episode page: www.thegreatfull.com/eoc-podcast/ep3-when-guilt-becomes-fuelNeed support on your leadership journey? Join the next cohort of inspiring women in the group coaching and leadership training programs offered by The Great Full: www.thegreatfull.comFor more information about Renata’s current work see Be the Earth foundation, where she is a Trustee and Head Community and Partnerships: https://www.betheearth.foundation/For more Miki and Aurelia’s work at the Non-Violent Global Liberation community visit: https://nglcommunity.org/Don’t want to miss an episode of the Emotions of Change podcast? Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts!
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  • Even the brave get stuck
    Ep. 2 Even the brave get stuck: Zoya Miari and Britt Frank on Self-Doubt. When Zoya Miari fled war for the second time, she arrived in Switzerland carrying more than just her past, she carried a vision. A storytelling platform for displaced people, built from her own experience as a Palestinian-Ukrainian refugee. But between nursing shifts, family responsibilities, and self-doubt whispering “you’re not enough,” that vision nearly stalled. In this episode, Zoya and host Michelle Grant go behind the polished surface of change-making to talk about what happens when we get stuck in doubt and what it takes to keep going. With insights from psychotherapist and author Britt Frank (The Science of Stuck), they explore how self-doubt can be less of a problem to fix and more of a message to understand. It’s a story of burnout, bravery, and the quiet decision to start anyway, one micro yes at a time.Further information:For exercises to help you navigate this emotion, as well as the transcript to the full interview with Britt Frank on how to navigate self-doubt, check out the podcast resource page: https://www.thegreatfull.com/eoc-podcast-resourcesNeed support on your leadership journey? Join the next cohort of inspiring women in the group coaching and leadership training programs offered by The Great Full: www.thegreatfull.comFor more information about Zoya’s initiative Waves to Home visit: https://wavestohome.org/For more information on Britt’s work visit: https://www.brittfrank.com/Don’t want to miss an episode of the Emotions of Change podcast? Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts!
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  • The part we keep quiet
    Ep. 1 - The part we keep quiet with Michelle Grant. After many years of hosting change-maker communities, Michelle Grant started to notice something. That there was plenty of space to talk about vision, strategy and impact. But no space to sit with the raw, contradictory, and often inconvenient emotions that come with trying to make a positive difference in the world. The actual experience of feeling, in real time, is still something we mostly do alone. We want to figure it all out first, go through the mess of it privately, and only share when we can neatly package our experience into learnings and wisdom. This brand new podcast series, Emotions of Change, is a public space to share different types of impact stories. Ones with real people and real feelings.In this episode, Michelle shares her story behind creating this podcast and what it is we will do here together: sit with some of the hardest emotions in impact work. Not to solve them. Not to tidy them up into a neat takeaway and to do list. But to feel them. Together. To stay in that tender in-between, just a little longer. Each episode will explore one emotion through the raw story of a brave woman leading change, and then we will be joined by guides who help us navigate this emotion. So if you’re someone working toward change, and feeling more than you’re saying, this podcast is for you.
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  • Emotions of Change is Coming Soon!
    Changemaking isn’t just strategy, indicators, or mission statements. It’s deeply emotional.In this show, we dive into the emotions behind doing work that tries to make the world a better place. From anger to compassion, anxiety to joy—we’re here to share things we don’t usually see in LinkedIn posts or slide decks.Why does this matter?Because when you're trying to create change, feeling a lot is not only normal—it’s inevitable. Yet we rarely get space to understand how those emotions shape our work. That’s what this show is here for.In each episode we explore one emotion through the raw, unfiltered story of a woman leading change somewhere in the world. These are not polished success stories. They’re honest and brave stories from the messy middle—the vulnerable, often invisible parts of changemaking.Then, we speak with guides—philosophers, therapists, practitioners—who help us learn how to navigate these emotions in ways that support both our well-being and our well-doing.We made this podcast to help changemakers like you feel less alone and more supported in your emotional journey to make a difference.If you’re doing the work and feeling everything that comes with it—we made this for you.Come join us! The first episode goes live next week - subscribe wherever you get your podcasts!
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Changemaking isn’t just strategy, indicators, or mission statements. It’s deeply emotional.In this show, we dive into the emotions behind doing work that tries to make the world a better place. From anger to compassion, anxiety to joy—we’re here to share things we don’t usually see in LinkedIn posts or slide decks.Why does this matter?Because when you're trying to create change, feeling a lot is not only normal—it’s inevitable. Yet we rarely get space to understand how those emotions shape our work. That’s what this show is here for.In each episode we explore one emotion through the raw, unfiltered story of a woman leading change somewhere in the world. These are not polished success stories. They’re honest and brave stories from the messy middle—the vulnerable, often invisible parts of change-making.Then, we speak with guides—philosophers, therapists, practitioners—who help us learn how to navigate these emotions in ways that support both our well-being and our well-doing.We made this podcast to help change-makers like you feel less alone and more supported in your emotional journey to make a difference.If you’re doing the work and feeling everything that comes with it—we made this for you.🎧 Come join us! 🎧
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