The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Ex-OpenAI researcher Daniel Kokotajlo walked away from $2 million rather than stay silent, and now reveals why he believes there's a 70% chance AI leads to human extinction, why superintelligence could arrive before the end of the decade, and the one plan he thinks could still save us all!

Daniel Kokotajlo is a former OpenAI researcher and one of the world's leading AI forecasters. He is the founder of the AI Futures Project and the lead author of 'AI 2027', the widely-read scenario mapping the trajectory of artificial intelligence. His follow-up, 'AI 2040: Plan A', sets out how the world could still navigate superintelligence safely.

He explains:
■ What he saw inside OpenAI that made him walk away

■ Why the people building AI privately believe it's coming even sooner than the public is being told
■ What happens if AI becomes powerful enough that humans can no longer control it, and why he puts the odds of catastrophe as high as 70%
■ Why almost every job could be automated, and what that means for the next generation
■ The plan he believes could still lead to abundance and a future worth living in

Chapters

00:00:00 Intro
00:02:14 Why This AI Mission Could Affect Everyone
00:04:01 Why the Average Person Should Care About AI
00:08:09 Are AI Experts Overreacting or Sounding the Alarm?
00:09:46 Why He Joined OpenAI—and What He Saw Inside
00:13:04 Why He Left OpenAI
00:15:33 What It Was Like Inside OpenAI During ChatGPT's Launch
00:16:56 The $2 Million NDA Controversy Explained
00:19:10 Is Full AI Automation Coming Faster Than We Think?
00:23:59 The AI 2027 Forecast That Changed the Conversation
00:26:13 AGI vs. Superintelligence: The Difference That Matters
00:26:57 How Robots Could Soon Become Part of Everyday Life
00:30:03 Why AI Works More Like the Human Brain Than You Think
00:35:54 Can AI Ever Be Truly Creative?
00:40:55 What Are the Real Odds of Human Extinction From AI?
00:47:38 What AI Will Do to Jobs
00:54:25 The Skills That Will Still Matter in an AI World
01:00:01 AI 2040: What the Future Could Look Like
01:04:16 The Different Futures AI Could Create
01:09:13 Will AI Become Earth's Apex Species?
01:12:58 How AI CEOs Really Make Decisions
01:15:17 Will AI Decide the 2028 Election?
01:18:38 Is There a Safe Path to Accelerating AI?
01:21:51 By 2031, AI Could Do 20% of Cognitive Work
01:24:55 Should Everyone Receive AI Dividends?
01:32:21 What It Will Feel Like to Live Through the AI Revolution
01:33:51 How People Find Purpose After AI Replaces Jobs
01:45:52 Would He Shut Down AI Forever If He Could?
01:49:36 What Can We Actually Do About AI?
01:57:05 Is It Already Too Late to Change Course?

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Your gut symptoms might not be caused by gluten.

Dr Will Bulsiewicz is a leading gastroenterologist and gut health expert specialising in the microbiome, digestion and the science of food.

In this moment, Dr Will Bulsiewicz reveals why bloating, gas and constipation are often misunderstood, and why the real trigger behind your symptoms might not be gluten. Learn how your microbiome is quietly shaping your digestion, inflammation and long-term health. 

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No.1 Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson returns to reveal what the government whistleblowers are actually telling us, why aliens almost certainly exist, why Mars can't save humanity from disaster, and whether science has left any room for God!
Neil deGrasse Tyson is America's most famous astrophysicist and Director of the Hayden Planetarium in New York City. He hosts the StarTalk podcast and is the author of over 20 books, including his latest, 'Take Me To Your Leader'.
He explains: 
◼️ Why the scale of the universe makes it nearly impossible for us to be alone
◼️ Why it would be easier to fix Earth than escape it, and why Mars won't save us
◼️ What actually happens to your body if you fall into a black hole
◼️ Why human creativity is your most powerful protection against AI
◼️ How every atom in your body was forged inside a dying star
Chapters

00:00:00 Intro
00:02:19 Why Are Humans So Fascinated by the Universe?
00:07:30 How Small Are We in the Universe?
00:16:19 How Understanding the Universe Can Change Your View of Religion
00:20:53 How Did the Big Bang Actually Happen?
00:23:38 What Existed Before the Big Bang?
00:24:39 The Craziest Theories About How the Universe Began
00:26:49 Did Obama Reveal Something About Aliens?
00:29:03 Why Intelligent Alien Life Could Exist
00:33:21 What Might We Never Know About the Universe?
00:35:19 Is Infinity Actually Possible?
00:37:03 How Do Black Holes Actually Work?
00:46:00 Ads
00:48:19 Why Aliens Might Communicate With Other Earth Creatures First
00:52:07 How Far Could Humans Travel Across the Universe?
00:53:54 What Happens as Nations Add More Satellites to Orbit?
00:59:58 Who Makes the Laws in Space?
01:00:31 Why Is Everyone Racing Back to the Moon?
01:02:54 What Happens If China Gets to the Moon First?
01:03:27 What Valuable Resources Are Hidden on the Moon?
01:04:44 Could the Moon Become a Tourist Destination?
01:05:15 Ads
01:06:17 Is Any of the UFO Footage Actually Compelling?
01:08:06 Would Humanity Be Ready to Meet Actual Aliens?
01:10:29 Why Do Alien Sightings Follow the Same Archetypes?
01:12:14 Why Do People on DMT See Aliens?
01:20:39 Are We Living in a Simulation?

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UFC legend Dustin Poirier reveals why he can't bring himself to watch the arrest video, the paid deals he's already lost, his vow to never drink again, and why the hardest fight of his life is happening off the mat.
Dustin Poirier (“The Diamond”) is a retired UFC lightweight fighter with a 30-10 record, best known as the only man to knock out Conor McGregor in MMA. He founded The Good Fight Foundation with his wife, Jolie, in 2018 and now appears periodically as a desk analyst on UFC broadcasts. In June 2026, he was arrested for public intoxication at an Atlanta airport, after which he shared that he’s struggling with alcohol.
He explains:
◼ What losing your career identity feels like, and how to rebuild when the fight is over
◼ How a childhood of poverty, detention and no father figure shaped the man he became
◼ Why elite athletes often fall apart when they retire, and what to do about it
◼ What going to therapy taught him about the pain he didn't know he was carrying
◼ The mental shift that turned losing to Conor McGregor into beating him
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Who do you want to be by the end of the year?

James Clear is the bestselling author of Atomic Habits, one of the world’s most influential books on habit formation, decision-making and personal growth.

In this moment, James Clear explains how to reset when you feel off track, choose the habits that actually move your life forward, and stop wasting energy on goals that no longer fit the season you’re in. He reveals exactly what is quietly shaping the person you’ll become in 6 months, and how to regain that control.

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