Nature Tripping

This episode is a departure from the usual format and is an immersive listening experience of the sounds of Dobarz. Earlier in the year Jo and Cathy visited Eastern Poland, returning to an area near the Biebrza Marshes with an intense abundance and diversity of birds and other wildlife. Made from a series of continuous soundscapes recorded by Jo in a variety of habitats around the hamlet of Dobarz, the podcast begins with the dawn chorus, and continues through the day, including a chorus of fire-bellied toads and the underwater sounds of pond life, ending with a windy late afternoon soundscape featuring insects stridulating incessantly. You’ll hear many birds familiar to the British landscape, but also some unusual species: check out our website for more details. Enjoy!

Jo and Cathy meet with Ashar Aslam, a post-doctoral climate researcher at Leeds University who studies tropical storms.
They discuss Jo and Ashar’s 2025 collaboration as part of Leeds Cultural Institute’s Creative Labs programme. This brought scientists and artists together to think about climate change: Jo and Ashar decided to explore what happens if you recontextualise the climate as a living entity. How do people respond to this proposition? Is it too hard to imagine, or conversely, could it be a way of engendering more care for the climate, and prompting a shift in thinking that leads to pro-environmental behaviour? We hear about Jo and Ashar’s experiences of discussing this with friends and colleagues, and listen to ‘Climotherapy’ – the sound art piece they made. ‘Climotherapy’ documents responses collected as part of the project, and shares meteorological information on the nature of storm formation.
With thanks to those we interviewed including Ronika Cunningham, Diane Greenwood, Katie Jukes, Arundhati Kalyan, Kathryn Loftus, Alison Ruck and Sam Williams.

Bryophyte curious? Join Jo and Cathy in this episode of Nature Tripping for a walk through Hardcastle Crags in Calderdale with bryologist Johnny Turner. It might just look like green stuff but get close-up and the trees, rocks and streams are home to specialist species of mosses and liverworts indicative of Atlantic rainforest, as well as more common species once lost from the woods but now back in abundance.
We learn what makes an Atlantic rainforest and how to tell if you’re in one. We find out about a long lineage of local bryologists from 1700s onwards and how their records reveal the impact of human activity on Calderdale’s temperate woodland across the centuries. It’s not all bad news! Johnny also shares his thoughts on his life-long relationship with these very ancient plants.

Jo and Cathy meet Bailey for an introduction to Regenerative Farming and a discussion about the experimental field work he has been doing with the University of Oxford on the impact of different types of grazing management on biodiversity.
Three different scenarios - conventionally grazed pasture, mob-grazed pasture, and passive restoration (where land is left untouched) - have been monitored for all sorts of biodiversity, with Bailey’s focus on the life beneath our feet. Soil might look pretty dull, but in fact it’s alive with invertebrates, and is a vital component of ecosystems. Can listening to it provide important information on soil health? If so, what does a robust experimental method for doing that even look like? Bailey has some of the answers… and the sounds.

In this episode Cathy and Jo travel east to Poland. Join them along the way as they cross borders and head into the primaeval forests of Bialowieza and the vast marshlands of Biebrza - both complex ecosystems, alive with the sounds of mammals, birds and amphibians. The variety and abundance of species they encounter are astounding but also give them pause to reflect on what Britain has lost and why.
With thanks to Tomasz Jezierczuk of www.wildpoland.com