A narrative show that explores the complex industries that will play an important role in creating an abundant future for humanity. Every season, host Packy McC...
Bonus: Mass Manufacturing Micro-sized Nuclear Reactors with Jordan Bramble and Julia DeWahl of Antares
Here's our full-length interview with Jordan Bramble and our own Julia DeWahl, co-founders of Antares, where we dive deep into how Antares plans on manufacturing in mass micro-sized nuclear reactors to provide abundant energy for all.
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Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.
GiveWell spends 50,000 hours every year doing deep-dives into different charitable programs to try to find the ways to do the most good for your dollar. Visit https://www.givewell.org to find out more or make a donation. Select PODCAST and enter Econ 102 at checkout to make sure they know you heard about them from us.
Anrok is the enterprise-grade solution that automates sales tax compliance worldwide. Visit https://www.anrok.com/turpentine to claim your free nexus study and take control of your SaaS tax strategy.
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A huge thank you to our presenting sponsors for Season 1:
Range Fund Holdings: Visit https://www.rangeetfs.com or contact your financial advisor to learn more about the Range Nuclear Renaissance ETF and start investing in the future of energy.
Secureframe: Get 10% off your first year of Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/packy
Pilot.com: Get 20% off your accounting bill for the first 6 months, go to https://pilot.com/packy
Clean Air Task Force https://www.catf.us/
For the full list of resources referenced in this show: https://ageofmiraclesss.addpotion.com/
Subscribe to Not Boring to get weekly doses of tech and business strategy, straight to your inbox: https://www.notboring.co/
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Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod
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Timestamps:
(00:10) Introduction
(03:50) Background story of starting Antares
(05:50) Role of military applications in microreactor development
(10:11) Working with DoD and commercial sector
(15:28) The process of building a microreactor
(20:04) On shifting from Software to Nuclear
(23:06) Addressing risks in Antares
(32:03) Next steps and timeline for Antares
(39:18) The future of the world with abundant nuclear energy
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.
Credits: Nancy Xu produced this season of Age of Miracles. Audio editor: Justin Golden. Executive producers: Amelia Salyers, Packy McCormick, and Erik Torenberg.
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Bonus: A World with Abundant Fusion Energy with David Kirtley of Helion Energy
Here's our full-length interview with David Kirtley, founder of Helion Energy, where we dive deep into the need for fusion as a replacement for fossil fuels.
🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj
SPONSORS: RIPPLING SPEND | WEIGHTS AND BIASES | GIVEWELL | ANROK
Imagine total control over your company's spending with Rippling Spend, the all-in-one platform for expense reports, corporate cards, and bill pay. Visit https://www.rippling.com/turpentine for a free demo and one month free trial.
Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.
GiveWell spends 50,000 hours every year doing deep-dives into different charitable programs to try to find the ways to do the most good for your dollar. Visit https://www.givewell.org to find out more or make a donation. Select PODCAST and enter Econ 102 at checkout to make sure they know you heard about them from us.
Anrok is the enterprise-grade solution that automates sales tax compliance worldwide. Visit https://www.anrok.com/turpentine to claim your free nexus study and take control of your SaaS tax strategy.
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A huge thank you to our presenting sponsors for Season 1:
Range Fund Holdings: Visit https://www.rangeetfs.com or contact your financial advisor to learn more about the Range Nuclear Renaissance ETF and start investing in the future of energy.
Secureframe: Get 10% off your first year of Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/packy
Pilot.com: Get 20% off your accounting bill for the first 6 months, go to https://pilot.com/packy
Clean Air Task Force https://www.catf.us/
For the full list of resources referenced in this show: https://ageofmiraclesss.addpotion.com/
Subscribe to Not Boring to get weekly doses of tech and business strategy, straight to your inbox: https://www.notboring.co/
Follow our hosts:
Packy McCormick on Twitter and LinkedIn
Julia DeWahl on Twitter and LinkedIn
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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
Check out Modern Relationships, where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. Founders Fund's Delian Asparouhov and researcher Nadia Asparouhova kick off the series with an unfiltered conversation about their relationship evolution.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod
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Timestamps:
(00:00) The future of energy sources in the US
(03:10) Introduction to Helion Energy
(08:33) Different approaches in fusion
(12:21) Partnerships with Microsoft
(16:16) Size and scalability of fusion reactors
(20:21) Power control and regulation in fusion
(25:44) Tracking progress at Helion
(29:51) The market and competition in commercial fusion
(34:30) Working with academia and regulatory
(42:29) Challenges and risks in fusion development
(44:13) The vision of abundant fusion energy
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.
Credits: Nancy Xu produced this season of Age of Miracles. Audio editor: Justin Golden. Executive producers: Amelia Salyers, Packy McCormick, and Erik Torenberg.
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Bonus: Unlocking Nuclear Power at Scale with Bret Kugelmass of Last Energy
Here's our full-length interview with Bret Kugelmass, founder of Last Energy, where we dive deep into nuclear manufacturing and the importance of manufacturing efficiency.
🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj
SPONSORS: RIPPLING SPEND | WEIGHTS AND BIASES | GIVEWELL | ANROK
Imagine total control over your company's spending with Rippling Spend, the all-in-one platform for expense reports, corporate cards, and bill pay. Visit https://www.rippling.com/turpentine for a free demo and one month free trial.
Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.
GiveWell spends 50,000 hours every year doing deep-dives into different charitable programs to try to find the ways to do the most good for your dollar. Visit https://www.givewell.org to find out more or make a donation. Select PODCAST and enter Econ 102 at checkout to make sure they know you heard about them from us.
Anrok is the enterprise-grade solution that automates sales tax compliance worldwide. Visit https://www.anrok.com/turpentine to claim your free nexus study and take control of your SaaS tax strategy.
–
A huge thank you to our presenting sponsors for Season 1:
Range Fund Holdings: Visit https://www.rangeetfs.com or contact your financial advisor to learn more about the Range Nuclear Renaissance ETF and start investing in the future of energy.
Secureframe: Get 10% off your first year of Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/packy
Pilot.com: Get 20% off your accounting bill for the first 6 months, go to https://pilot.com/packy
Clean Air Task Force https://www.catf.us/
For the full list of resources referenced in this show: https://ageofmiraclesss.addpotion.com/
Subscribe to Not Boring to get weekly doses of tech and business strategy, straight to your inbox: https://www.notboring.co/
Follow our hosts:
Packy McCormick on Twitter and LinkedIn
Julia DeWahl on Twitter and LinkedIn
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Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(04:38) Regulatory capture and the NRC
(09:45) The cost of nuclear + manufacturing
(18:11) The Last Energy product and manufacturing process
(25:14) The future of nuclear energy
(29:31) Risks and mitigation in the nuclear energy business
(35:52) The limitations of wind and wolar
(40:49) Gigawatt scale power
(43:14) What would the world look like with abundant nuclear energy?
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.
Credits: Nancy Xu produced this season of Age of Miracles. Audio editor: Justin Golden. Executive producers: Amelia Salyers, Packy McCormick, and Erik Torenberg.
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47:19
Bonus: Building Nuclear for the Moon with Tyler Bernstein of Zeno Power
We're kicking off the first of our bonus episodes with Tyler Bernstein, founder and CEO of Zeno Power, where he shares in-depth how they're creating radioisotope power systems for lunar applications.
🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj
SPONSORS: RIPPLING SPEND | WEIGHTS AND BIASES | GIVEWELL | ANROK
Imagine total control over your company's spending with Rippling Spend, the all-in-one platform for expense reports, corporate cards, and bill pay. Visit https://www.rippling.com/turpentine for a free demo and one month free trial.
Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.
GiveWell spends 50,000 hours every year doing deep-dives into different charitable programs to try to find the ways to do the most good for your dollar. Visit https://www.givewell.org to find out more or make a donation. Select PODCAST and enter Econ 102 at checkout to make sure they know you heard about them from us.
Anrok is the enterprise-grade solution that automates sales tax compliance worldwide. Visit https://www.anrok.com/turpentine to claim your free nexus study and take control of your SaaS tax strategy.
–
A huge thank you to our presenting sponsors for Season 1:
Range Fund Holdings: Visit https://www.rangeetfs.com or contact your financial advisor to learn more about the Range Nuclear Renaissance ETF and start investing in the future of energy.
Secureframe: Get 10% off your first year of Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/packy
Pilot.com: Get 20% off your accounting bill for the first 6 months, go to https://pilot.com/packy
Clean Air Task Force https://www.catf.us/
For the full list of resources referenced in this show: https://ageofmiraclesss.addpotion.com/
Subscribe to Not Boring to get weekly doses of tech and business strategy, straight to your inbox: https://www.notboring.co/
Follow our hosts:
Packy McCormick on Twitter and LinkedIn
Julia DeWahl on Twitter and LinkedIn
Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(00:22) The Pie of Energy Sources in 2050
(01:35) Nuclear Energy in Space
(06:12) Radioisotope Power vs. Nuclear Power for Propulsion
(10:54) Building Zeno Power
(14:18) Economics and Regulation in Space Nuclear
(20:01) Competitive Dynamics and Protecting Market Position
(23:00) Challenges and Risks
(25:29) Business Models and Financing
(29:42) De-risking the Supply Chain
(32:17) Product and Process of Zeno Power
(35:22) Geopolitics and the Moon
(38:48) Abundant Energy in the Universe
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.
Credits: Nancy Xu produced this season of Age of Miracles. Audio editor: Justin Golden. Executive producers: Amelia Salyers, Packy McCormick, and Erik Torenberg.
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41:12
E10: Energy for an Age of Miracles
We can live in an Age of Miracles, but it’s going to take a lot of work. Energy abundance is the most important thing we can work towards as a species. More than simply surviving climate change, we have the opportunity to unlock a new level of human thriving if we can successfully navigate this transition.
That’s why we chose to do the first season of Age of Miracles on the energy sources of the future. In this episode of Age of Miracles, the final episode of season one, Packy and Julia reflect on the importance of energy abundance, how nuclear energy helps us unlock it, and what the future might look like when we do.
Thank you to all of our guests this season for making this show possible—we're so grateful.
SPONSORS: RIPPLING SPEND | WEIGHTS AND BIASES | GIVEWELL | ANROK
Imagine total control over your company's spending with Rippling Spend, the all-in-one platform for expense reports, corporate cards, and bill pay. Visit https://www.rippling.com/turpentine for a free demo and one month free trial.
Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.
GiveWell spends 50,000 hours every year doing deep-dives into different charitable programs to try to find the ways to do the most good for your dollar. Visit https://www.givewell.org to find out more or make a donation. Select PODCAST and enter Econ 102 at checkout to make sure they know you heard about them from us.
Anrok is the enterprise-grade solution that automates sales tax compliance worldwide. Visit https://www.anrok.com/turpentine to claim your free nexus study and take control of your SaaS tax strategy.
–
A huge thank you to our presenting sponsors for Season 1:
Range Fund Holdings: Visit https://www.rangeetfs.com or contact your financial advisor to learn more about the Range Nuclear Renaissance ETF and start investing in the future of energy.
Secureframe: Get 10% off your first year of Secureframe: https://secureframe.com/packy
Pilot.com: Get 20% off your accounting bill for the first 6 months, go to https://pilot.com/packy
Clean Air Task Force https://www.catf.us/
For the full list of resources referenced in this show: https://ageofmiraclesss.addpotion.com/
Timestamps:
(00:00) The best way to create the future is to invent it
(07:55) What can you do today?
(16:09) Josh Wolfe on a future of abundance
(18:29) Casey Handmer on a future of abundance
(20:49) Angelica Oung on a future of abundance
(23:22) Alex Epstein on a future of abundance
(29:42) Final recap
This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.
Credits: Nancy Xu produced this season of Age of Miracles. Audio editor: Justin Golden. Video editor: Nancy Xu. Executive producers: Amelia Salyers, Packy McCormick, and Erik Torenberg.
A narrative show that explores the complex industries that will play an important role in creating an abundant future for humanity. Every season, host Packy McCormick – a venture investor and writer of the popular Not Boring newsletter – brings in an expert cohost to go deep into the possibilities and challenges of making “sci-fi” dreams our reality in our lifetimes. The first season starts at the root of all progress and prosperity: unlocking 10x more clean and reliable energy by splitting and fusing atoms themselves.
Age of Miracles is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co