The Installation Art Podcast

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A refreshingly candid conversation with Carrie Scott: curator, art consultant, broadcaster and founder of Seen, a media platform connecting the art world to the real world.
This is our most unfiltered episode yet, where we tackle topics that might "get us in trouble": what consultants actually charge, why artists should have elevator pitches (despite what famous curators say), whether museums should pay artists a percentage of ticket sales, and how galleries claim they'll "find you" while rejecting all submissions.
Carrie's career spans working with major galleries in Seattle and New York, collaborating with Nick Knight for a decade, launching groundbreaking exhibitions and now building a consultancy that refuses to be motivated purely by commission. She is opinionated, pragmatic and genuinely invested in making the art world less intimidating and more transparent.
Key insights from this episode:
• The real numbers: what art consultants charge
• Why Carrie is building an art consultancy that is not centered around transaction
• The controversial debate: should artists have an elevator pitch?
• What galleries mean when they say "don't contact us" (and should you ignore it)?
• Creative health as the third pillar of wellness alongside physical and mental health
• Practical advice for ambitious artists and where to find helpful resources
Carrie Scott is a curator, art historian, consultant and broadcaster based in London. She is the founder of Seen, a media platform and consultancy dedicated to connecting the art world to the real world.
You can find out more about her work at https://www.seen.art/ and follow her on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/carriescottcurates/

00:34 Carrie's Favorite Quote
03:34 Background and Early Life
07:13 Journey into Art and Education
09:58 First Job and Early Career Challenges
21:26 Transition to Consulting and Launching Her Own Business
40:24 The Value of Installation Art
43:48 Challenges in Monetizing Installation Art
45:35 Artist-Museum Revenue Sharing
52:05 Curating and Supporting Artists
56:26 Advice for Emerging Artists
01:09:45 Dream Projects and Future Plans

Also mentioned in this episode:
Brothers And Keepers by John Edgar Wideman: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50891912-brothers-and-keepers
Overherd oat milk: https://overherd.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/overherd.uk
The Wallace Collection: https://www.wallacecollection.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/wallacemuseum | @TheWallacecollection
Jean-Honoré Fragonard: https://www.wikiart.org/en/jean-honore-fragonard
Dickinson College: https://www.dickinson.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/dickinsoncollege | @dsoncollege
Conde Nast: https://www.condenast.com/
University of Washington: https://www.washington.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/uofwa/ | @universityofwashington
Seattle Magazine: https://seattlemag.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattlemag/
The Seattle Times: https://www.seattletimes.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattletimes/
Seattle University: https://www.seattleu.edu/ | https://www.instagram.com/seattleu/ | @seattleuniversity
The Stranger: https://www.thestranger.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/thestrangerseattle/
James Harris: https://jamesharrisgallery.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/jamesharrisgallery/
Rashid Johnson: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2830-rashid-johnson/ | https://www.instagram.com/rashidjohnson/
Nicole Klagsburn: https://www.nicoleklagsbrun.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nicole_klagsbrun_inc/
Matt Day Jackson: https://www.hauserwirth.com/viewing-room/matthew-day-jackson/ https://www.instagram.com/matthewdayjackson/
Mika Rottenberg: https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/23390-mika-rottenberg/ | https://www.instagram.com/mikarottenberg/
Jimmy Moffat: https://www.instagram.com/jimmymoff/
Art + Commerce: https://artandcommerce.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/artandcommerce/
Annie Leibovitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Leibovitz | https://www.instagram.com/annieleibovitz/
Steven Meisel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Meisel | https://www.instagram.com/stevenmeiselofficial/
Nick Knight: https://www.nickknight.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/nick_knight/
180 Studios: https://www.180studios.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/180.studios/
The Art Show on Sky Arts: https://www.carrie-scott.com/theartshoq | https://www.instagram.com/artshowtv/ | @theartshow791
Simonette Quamina: https://www.simonettequamina.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/simonette_quamina/
John Pawson:

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An in-depth conversation with award-winning sculptor and installation artist Zadok Ben-David, whose practice spans delicate miniature work to large-scale public installations. From his early beginnings in Yemen and Israel to representing his country at the Venice Biennale, Zadok shares the philosophical and practical journey behind his internationally acclaimed work. Discover how he transforms metal into poetic metaphors exploring human nature, evolution, and our relationship with the natural world (and how one installation changed a stranger's life forever).
Key insights from this episode:
• The path from abstract expressionism at St Martin's School of Art to creating massive figurative installations
• How 30,000 hand-painted flowers became one of the world's most travelled installations and the team of assistants who helped create them
• Behind the scenes of installing work across five continents, from prisoners in Germany to 70 assistants in Uzbekistan
• The commercial strategy that funds large-scale installations through smaller original works
• Why Zadok turned down a $1 million public art commission to maintain artistic integrity
• The profound moment when his Blackfield installation helped a Holocaust survivor find hope again
Zadok Ben-David is based in London and Portugal. You can find out more about his work on his website https://www.zadokbendavid.com/ and follow him on Instagram @zadokstudio https://www.instagram.com/zadokstudio/
Exhibition “FLOWERS. Art from the Renaissance to Artificial Intelligence” in Rome until 22 February 2026: https://www.chiostrodelbramante.it/post_mostra/flowers-flowers-art/

03:27 Work-Life Balance Insights
06:15 Journey to Art and Family Influence
09:17 Art School Challenges and Triumphs
10:19 Moving to London and Early Struggles
15:15 Discovering Sculpture and Teaching
21:06 First Installations
25:17 Animal Metaphors in Art
34:25 Global Exhibitions and Unique Experiences
38:23 Commercial Aspects of Art
40:33 People I Saw, But Never Met
44:58 Art Installations Around the World
48:58 The Other Side of Midnight
54:44 Challenges in Art Installations
01:04:37 The Healing Power of Art
01:11:40 Upcoming Exhibitions and Contact Information

Also mentioned in this episode:
Anish Kapoor: https://anishkapoor.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/dirty_corner/
Jerusalem Art Academy: https://www.bezalel.ac.il/en | https://www.instagram.com/bezalel_academy | @bezalelacademyofartanddesi1460
University of Reading: https://www.reading.ac.uk/ | https://www.instagram.com/uniofreading/ | @UniofReading
Chelsea College of Arts: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/chelsea-college-of-arts | https://www.instagram.com/unioftheartslondon/ | @UniversityoftheArtsLondon
Central Saint Martins: https://www.arts.ac.uk/colleges/central-saint-martins | https://www.instagram.com/unioftheartslondon/ | @UniversityoftheArtsLondon
Anthony Caro: https://www.anthonycaro.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/anthonycarocentre/
Aesop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesop's_Fables
Krylov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Krylov's_fables
Kröller-Müller Museum: https://krollermuller.nl/en | https://www.instagram.com/krollermullermuseum/
Kunsthal Rotterdam: https://www.kunsthal.nl/en/#tijdlijn-2026-03 | https://www.instagram.com/kunsthal/ | @KunsthalRotterdam
Art Gallery of Uzbekistan: https://uzbekistan1.com/art-gallery-of-uzbekistan/
Neanderthal Museum: https://neanderthal.de/en | https://www.instagram.com/neanderthalmuseum/ |@NeanderthalMuseum
Sculpture by the Sea: https://sculpturebythesea.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/sculpturebythesea | @sculpturebythesea
National Museum of the Republic of Kazakhstan: https://nmrk.kz/en/ | @qazaqstanrespyblkasynynult9862
Annandale Galleries: https://annandalegalleries.com.au/ | https://www.instagram.com/annandalegalleries/
Ploshchad Mira Museum Center: https://mira1.ru/about | @na_mira1
Krasnoyarsk Museum Biennale: https://biennale.ru/
Joseph Beuys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Beuys
GYRE: https://gyre-omotesando.com/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/gyre_omotesando/ | @gyreTV
Chiostro del Bramante: https://www.chiostrodelbramante.it/post_mostra/flowers-flowers-art/ | https://www.instagram.com/chiostrodelbramante_roma | @chiostrodelbramante
Andreas Gursky: https://www.andreasgursky.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/andreasgursky_official
Ai Weiwei: https://www.aiweiwei.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/aiww/

The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive.

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In this bonus episode, host Anastasia Parmson explores what it really means to approach residencies as an installation artist. Beyond the logistics of time, space, and materials, we dive into bigger questions that shape the medium:
• How to make large-scale, site-specific work in short timeframes and unfamiliar contexts?
• What happens when you choose temporary or fragile materials instead of archival ones?
• Is the value of installation art in the object, the process or the audience experience?
• Could installation art be considered disposable or should we always aim for permanence?
Drawing from a recent experimental residency at DRAW Space in Sydney, Anastasia reflects on the challenges of working fast, improvising with cardboard and collaborating with others. But more importantly, you’ll be invited to consider your own approach to residencies, materials, and the long-term value of installation art.
Whether you’re an installation artist or simply curious about how these questions play out in practice, this episode offers insights and provocations designed to spark discussion.
00:00 Introduction and Listener Review
01:54 Invitation to Draw Space Residency
03:47 Challenges and Initial Thoughts
06:10 Execution and Community Involvement
08:21 Building the Installation
12:01 Final Touches and Open Day
15:43 Reflections on the Experiment
24:49 Conclusion and Future Plans
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DRAW Space: https://drawspace.org/ | https://www.instagram.com/drawspacesydney
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An enlightening conversation with celebrated Danish artist Uffe Isolotto. Discover his journey from growing up in a remote town in Denmark to being selected to represent his country at the prestigious Venice Biennale.
Learn how Uffe balances work and life, the nuances of his collaborative process, and his unique approach to installation art.
Key insights include:
• The role of music and collaboration in his creative process.
• Uffe’s early inspirations and how he evolved from poetry to visual art.
• The logistics and challenges of creating large-scale immersive installations and collaborating with other artists and craftsmen.
• Behind-the-scenes about preparing for the Venice Biennale and the unexpected aftermath.
• Future projects and Uffe’s interest in film and world-building as part of his artistic practice.
Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of Isolotto’s process and his innovative approach to contemporary installation art.
You can follow Uffe on Instagram at @uffeisolotto https://www.instagram.com/uffeisolotto/ and learn more about his installation for the Danish Pavilion at Venice Biennale at @wewalkedtheearth https://www.instagram.com/wewalkedtheearth
04:47 Journey into Art and Education
10:07 First Major Projects and Public Art
12:34 Venice Biennale Experience
15:57 Collaborations and Challenges
18:19 Creative Process and World Building
28:04 Skills and People Management
30:49 Exploring Hyperrealistic Sculpture
31:30 Post-Venice Reflections
33:14 Venturing into Filmmaking
37:40 Artistic Practice and Longevity
44:49 Funding and Challenges
54:52 Advice for Young Artists
58:04 Current Projects and Future Plans
PS: We ran into a few technical issues during the recording of this episode, which means a small section of the conversation didn’t make it into the final cut and the audio isn’t perfect throughout. We appreciate your understanding.
Also mentioned in this episode:
NTS Radio: https://www.nts.live/ | https://www.instagram.com/nts_radio/ | @NTSLIVEUK
Danish Art Foundation: https://www.kunst.dk/english/about-us | https://www.instagram.com/statenskunstfond/
Thomas Foldberg: https://thomasfoldberg.dk/ | https://www.instagram.com/thomas_foldberg_studio/
Lars Von Trier: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001885/ | https://www.instagram.com/larsvontrier_/
Soft Baroque: https://softbaroque.com/ | https://www.instagram.com/soft_baroque/
Anne Sofie Madsen: https://www.instagram.com/annesofiemadsenstudio/
Carlsberg Foundation: https://www.carlsbergfondet.dk/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/carlsbergfondet/ | @Carlsbergfondet1876
Simon Starling: https://www.contemporaryartlibrary.org/artist/simon-starling-14184
Den Frie: https://denfrie.dk/en/ | https://www.instagram.com/denfrie.cph/
Holstebro Kunstmuseum: https://en.holstebrokunstmuseum.dk/ | https://www.instagram.com/holstebrokunstmuseum/
The Installation Art Podcast is a show about people who love and work with the contemporary art medium of installation. The host Anastasia Parmson, an artist herself, interviews internationally renowned artists and arts workers about the intricacies and behind-the-scenes stories of creating and showing work that is site-specific, ephemeral, large scale or immersive.

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Your host Anastasia Parmson: www.anastasiaparmson.art | https://www.instagram.com/anastasiaparmson.art/

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