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Andrew Lisowski, Justin Bennett
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Matt Perry - (Framer) Motion - The Evolution of Animation Libraries
This week we're talking to Matt Perry, a creator of Framer Motion. Matt is a software engineer at Framer, and he's been working on the animation libraries for a while and has a long history of innovation. He recently left Framer to focus on the now rebranded Motion. He aims to make more of the library usable form frameworks outside of React.
https://x.com/mattgperry
https://motion.dev/
https://github.com/motiondivision/motion
https://github.com/mattgperry
https://motion.dev/about
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Anselm Eickhoff - Jazz Tools
This week we talk to Anselm Eickhoff, a creator of Jazz Tools. Jazz is a reimagining of what the client server boundary is and how it can be used to build local first apps. Join us as we explore the next generation of local first tooling.
https://bsky.app/profile/anselm.io
https://jazz.tools/
https://github.com/aeplay
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Dan Stepanov - NativeWind, NativeWind UI
This week we talk to Dan Stepanov, a maintainer of NativeWind, the author of NativeWind UI. NativeWind is tailwind CSS for React Native, a seemingly simple way to build UI that has lots of challenges to build. On top of that he's building NativeWind UI, a component library that leverages NativeWind to build native like experiences. We also talk about the challenges of making money on top of open source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QvZKlnb7M
https://www.danstepanov.com/
https://x.com/nativewindui
https://rn.new/
https://github.com/danstepanov
https://www.nativewind.dev/
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Evan You - Vue, Vite, VoidZero and the Future of JavaScript Tooling
This week Evan You joins us again to talk about his new company, VoidZero, and the future of JavaScript tooling. Evan build Vite and ushered in a new era of JavaScript tooling, but thinks he can do better now by building up new rust based tooling. Rolldown is the first step in this as they aim to make build times a thing of the past.
https://bsky.app/profile/evanyou.me
https://www.accel.com/noteworthy/our-seed-investment-in-voidzero-evan-yous-bold-vision-for-javascript-tooling
https://voidzero.dev/posts/announcing-voidzero-inc
https://github.com/yyx990803
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Nate Wienert - Tamagui, One Stack, Zero, and Universal Apps
This week Nate Wienert stop by for a second appearance. Nate is the creator of Tamagui, a framework for building universal apps with React Native. That work led him to create One Stack, a framework for building local first universal apps with React Native.
https://onestack.dev/
https://x.com/one__js
https://x.com/natebirdman
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We love talking to the creators front-end frameworks (React, Solid, Svelte, Vue, Angular, etc), JavaScript and TypeScript runtimes (Node, Deno, Bun), Languages (Unison, Elixor, Rust, Zig), web tech (WASM, Web Containers, WebGPU, WebGL), database providers (Turso, Planetscale, Supabase, EdgeDB), and platforms (SST, AWS, Vercel, Netlify, Fly.io).
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