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Boomman steps into Loon’s hot seat for a tense Part 1—and nothing is off limits. Scammer claims, Ray Daniels, Money Mu’s contract, Foogiano in prison, Gucci Mane and Pooh Shiesty all collide. Authentic Empire CEO Boomman sits across from Loon for one of the most confrontational conversations ever released on It’s Up There. After weeks of public scrutiny surrounding his business practices, artist relationships and the accusations attached to the Authentic Empire name, Boomman finally gets the opportunity to explain his side—but Loon refuses to let him hide behind broad answers. Boomman responds to Ray Daniels framing him as someone who sells dreams to independent artists and claims Ray has made hundreds of thousands of dollars from discussing his name. Loon then presses Boomman on the difference between ownership and control, whether his artist agreements were fair, and why so many former artists have publicly expressed frustration. The conversation gets even more intense when they address: Money Mu’s relationship with Authentic Empire Who controls the “Hittin” record Boomman’s alleged $500,000 investment The $80,000 Lil Durk feature Gross-receipt deals and artist recoupment Paid music reviews, consultations and showcases Whether IndieFest was opportunity or an expensive dream Gucci Mane’s relationship with Pooh Shiesty Why artists become disloyal after achieving success Whether Boomman supported Foogiano during his incarceration The possibility of Foogiano eventually wanting out of their business relationship Boomman argues that he invested real money, created opportunities artists could not create for themselves and operated according to the agreements everyone signed. Loon challenges whether “industry standard” automatically means fair—and whether calling something business can erase the emotional expectations created when artists are told they are family. This is only Part 1. Part 2 begins with Euro Gotit and goes even deeper into the accusations surrounding Authentic Empire. Subscribe to It’s Up There and turn on notifications so you do not miss Part 2.
00:00 Boomman Enters Loon’s Hot Seat 03:19 Why Boomman Almost Didn’t Show Up 04:53 Boomman Responds to the Public Scrutiny 06:26 “Ray Made Hundreds of Thousands Off My Name” 07:17 Is Boomman a Scammer or Just Doing Business? 09:34 Money Mu: Ownership vs Control 11:15 Boomman Explains Gross-Receipt Deals 14:34 The $500,000 Money Mu Investment 17:34 Did Money Mu Already Have Motion? 20:45 The $80,000 Lil Durk Feature Dispute 24:55 Who Really Made “Hittin” Successful? 28:22 “I Was Doing Business With My Heart” 34:52 Should Boomman Give Artists Their Rights Back? 40:55 Why Boomman Moved Around With Security 42:36 Boomman Defends Gucci Mane Against Pooh Shiesty 46:11 What Is the Purpose of Signing to a Label? 52:18 Pooh Shiesty, Prison and Big Scarr’s Death 58:21 Boomman Defends Authentic Empire’s Artist Platform 1:02:03 IndieFest vs Rolling Loud 1:06:05 The Prize Was Actually an Advance 1:11:17 Did Boomman Sell Independent Artists a Dream? 1:15:16 Will Foogiano Treat Boomman Like Pooh Did Gucci? 1:18:03 Why Boomman Charges Artists for Meetings 1:20:51 Did Boomman Support Foogiano While He Was Locked Up? 1:23:00 End
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Loon breaks down the Pooh Shiesty and Gucci Mane situation after the alleged robbery video surfaced — and explains why Pooh Shiesty may have recorded the moment in the first place. In this full episode, Loon unpacks the federal case, the 1017 contract dispute, the alleged Gucci Mane robbery video, and the deeper cultural meaning behind why this situation became so public. Loon explains why Pooh Shiesty may have believed Gucci Mane’s street image would keep him silent, why recording the moment may have changed the entire case, and why Gucci Mane’s gangster image is now being tested in front of the world. This conversation goes beyond rap news. Loon connects the Pooh Shiesty and Gucci Mane case to street image, ego, federal court, contracts, public humiliation, the Jeezy Verzuz moment, and the price artists pay when the image they used to win becomes the image they cannot escape. Watch the full episode as Loon breaks down why Pooh Shiesty recorded Gucci Mane, why the video matters, why Gucci’s image is being stripped, and what this situation says about rap culture, street rules, and the difference between force and finesse. Subscribe to It’s Up There for full episodes, interviews, and raw conversations with Loon. #PoohShiesty #GucciMane #BigLoon #ItsUpThere #1017Records #HipHopNews #RapNews 00:00 Gucci Mane, Pooh Shiesty & The Federal Case 01:18 Loon Returns & Sets The Tone 03:05 Why This Conversation Needed Real Game 05:02 Boundaries, Energy & Being Drained By People 07:40 Connected To You vs Attached To You 10:22 When People Only See You As Useful 13:05 Why Givers Need Boundaries 15:20 What’s Really In Your Toolbox? 17:45 Why Love Can Become A Disguise For Taking 19:35 The Pooh Shiesty & Gucci Mane Case Explained 21:10 Why Gucci May Have To Participate In The Case 23:00 The Feds Reveal New Evidence 24:28 The Alleged Robbery Video Surfaces 26:15 Loon Breaks Down The Studio Footage 29:05 Why Pooh Shiesty Recorded The Video 31:40 Big 30, The Phone & The Bond Question 34:00 Pooh Shiesty Misread Gucci Mane’s Image 36:30 Why Loon Says Pooh Should Consider A Deal 38:42 Trading Your Life For A Contract 41:00 Gucci Mane’s Gangster Image Under Pressure 43:35 The Spiritual Side Of Gucci’s Situation 46:10 Did Gucci Miss His Exit At Verzuz? 49:20 Jeezy, Gucci & “The Truth” 52:45 Why Verzuz Was Bigger Than Entertainment 55:30 God, Image & Public Correction 58:05 Why Jeezy Took The Spiritual Exit Ramp 1:01:00 It Takes A Gangster To Put The Image Down 1:04:15 Being Gangster Is Not Freedom 1:06:40 Pooh Shiesty Needed More Tools Than Aggression 1:09:20 Why Force Without Finesse Gets You Destroyed 1:12:00 Fighting For Masters Is A Long Game 1:14:30 When Young Men Run Out Of Language 1:17:05 Restraint Is Not Backing Down 1:19:20 Aggression Is Too Expensive To Be Your Only Strategy Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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YK Niece returns to It’s Up There for Part 2 and opens up about the money, pressure, love, family, fame and business behind her rise. In this conversation with Loon, YK Niece speaks on making nearly $100,000 in one day from multiple shows, funding her own first album, raising her booking price, running her team, and why being independent means every move has to make sense. YK Niece also talks about her Cardi B moment, wanting to work with Cardi, her Baddies and Zeus experience, whether she would do her own show, why she says Tyler Perry should call her, and how she sees herself beyond the music. The conversation gets deeper as YK Niece opens up about love, heartbreak, protecting her peace, keeping her inner circle small, forgiving her father, growing up without the father relationship she wanted, and learning that “if he wanted to, he would.” This is YK Niece Part 2 on It’s Up There — a real look at the artist, the businesswoman, the daughter, the woman behind the lyrics, and the independent grind behind the moment.
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00:00 YK Niece On Men Lying & Protecting Her Image 03:00 Baddies, Zeus & Reality TV Risk 06:30 YK Niece Says She’s Made For TV 10:00 Love, Kids & What She Wants In A Man 14:00 Fame, Trust & Keeping Her Circle Small 19:00 First Heartbreak & Why Women Move On 24:00 The Viral Lyric Women Connected With 28:00 Cardi B Wanting A Song From YK Niece 31:00 Funding Her Own First Album 35:00 Making Close To $100K In One Day 39:00 Raising Prices, Lowering Prices & Booking Strategy 44:00 Walking Out Fighters & Bigger Stages 47:00 First Tour, Sold Out Cities & Her Team 51:00 Makeup, Image & Doing It Herself 56:00 Father Pain & How It Changed Her View Of Men 1:02:00 Forgiving Her Father But Keeping Boundaries 1:08:00 Family, College & The Hustle Before Music 1:13:00 The Meaning Of YK & Final Message
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Dr. Umar Johnson returns to It’s Up There for Part 2 and takes the conversation far beyond comedy, controversy, and viral headlines. Loon presses Dr. Umar on Kevin Hart’s Breakfast Club response after the Netflix roast backlash, the responsibility of being the face of the roast, Sheryll Underwood, Black celebrity silence, and whether comedy is being used to make Black people laugh at their own humiliation. The conversation also moves into Rick Chow being acquitted after the shooting death of Cyrus Carmack-Belton, the comparison to Latasha Harlins, the Shell boycott conversation, Asian-owned businesses, Black infrastructure, Black parents raising sons in white suburbs, and why Dr. Umar says Black people keep having rebellions instead of revolutions. Dr. Umar also addresses Chud The Builder, Jake Lang, racial agitators, Big Groove, the “chimping out” term, Karmelo Anthony, no Black jurors, Black self-defense, Black leadership, and why he believes Black America has to stop reacting emotionally and start organizing strategically. This is Part 2 of Dr. Umar Johnson on It’s Up There. Editorial note: This episode includes commentary and allegations stated by the speakers. Claims about disputed facts, legal cases, comedy, race, public figures, and individuals involved are attributed to the speakers and should be understood as commentary.
00:00 Cold Open: Kevin Hart, Rick Chow, Chud & Black America 01:00 Dr. Umar Returns For Part 2 02:45 Jake Lang Outside The Courthouse 05:30 Chud The Builder, Jake Lang & Racial Trigger Traps 08:45 Dr. Umar Calls For Black Organization 11:30 “We Have No Allies” And Black Self-Defense 14:15 Chud Armed At Courthouse vs Karmelo Multi-Tool 17:30 White Privilege, Bias & The Justice System 20:45 Rick Chow, Cyrus Carmack-Belton & Latasha Harlins 24:30 Dr. Umar Questions The Rick Chow Case 28:00 Black Parents, White Suburbs & Raising Black Boys 31:00 George Stinney And Black Children In America 34:00 Dr. Umar Calls For Shell Gas Station Boycott 36:30 Boycotts, Rebellions vs Revolutions 39:15 Black Infrastructure: Gas Stations, Schools & Track Meets 42:00 Big Groove, Buffoonery & White Humor 44:45 “Chimping Out,” The N-Word & School Lawsuits 48:30 Kevin Hart’s Breakfast Club Response 51:00 Dr. Umar On Jokes Removed From The Roast 53:15 Cheryl Underwood, Shane Gillis & The Roast Backlash 55:30 Was The Roast Bigger Than Comedy? 57:30 If A Joke Is A Joke, Why Can Everybody Else Be Offended? 1:00:00 The George Floyd Joke Was Not The Only Issue 1:02:15 Dr. Umar Says Kevin Hart Gets One More Chance 1:03:45 Cheryl Underwood, Netflix & Black Celebrity Humiliation 1:05:00 End
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Dr. Umar Johnson returns to It’s Up There with Loon for a full episode conversation on the Karmelo Anthony case, Austin Metcalf, the 35-year sentence, Austin Metcalf’s dad, no Black jurors, stand your ground, self-defense, the appeal, race, and the trial that has divided America. In this episode, Dr. Umar goes all the way in on why he believes the Karmelo Anthony case is bigger than one courtroom. He reacts to the verdict, the 35-year sentence, the no-Black-juror issue, the self-defense argument, Austin Metcalf’s father, the defense team, the witness situation, and the larger question of whether Black children are allowed to defend themselves in America. Loon presses Dr. Umar on the questions people are arguing about right now: Was 35 years justice? Did Karmelo Anthony get a fair trial? Was “touch me and see what happens” a threat or a warning? Would Dr. Umar defend a white teen if the roles were reversed? Did Austin Metcalf’s dad go too far after the verdict? And what should Karmelo’s family do next with the appeal? Dr. Umar also speaks on multiculturalism, Black first, Jake Lang outside the courthouse, the father’s viral rant, Eddie Parra, the defense team, legal execution, jury selection, and why he believes this case exposed a deeper double standard in America. Editorial note: This episode contains commentary and allegations stated by the speakers. Claims about disputed facts, legal strategy, jury selection, race, and individuals involved in the case are attributed to the speakers and should be understood as commentary.
00:00 Dr. Umar Johnson Returns To It’s Up There 01:25 The Pan-African Fast And Spiritual Discipline 03:05 Numerology, Destiny And Alignment 04:35 Why Wealth Comes With Black Responsibility 06:10 Michael Jackson, Money And Philanthropy 07:40 Repentance, Forgiveness And Arrogance 09:15 Loon Brings Up The Karmelo Anthony Case 10:25 Dr. Umar Reacts To The Verdict 11:55 Why Umar Says This Case Is Bigger Than Court 13:25 The Original Crime In America Is Being Black 14:55 Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf And Race In America 16:30 Zimmerman, Rittenhouse, Daniel Penny And Rick Chow Comparisons 18:20 Stand Your Ground And Black Self-Defense 20:00 Could Karmelo Anthony Get A Fair Trial? 21:25 No Black Jurors In The Trial 22:45 Dr. Umar Says Multiculturalism Died 24:15 35 Years For Karmelo Anthony 25:35 Was Murder The Right Charge? 27:00 The Grand Jury Question 28:20 Karmelo Anthony Being Tried As An Adult 29:45 The Caysen Allison Comparison 31:10 Loon Asks The Role-Reversal Question 32:40 Would Umar Defend A White Teen? 34:05 Threat Or Warning? 35:25 The Self-Defense Argument 37:00 Dr. Umar Questions The Defense Team 38:30 The Private Investigator Question 39:55 Why Umar Says The Trial Was An Inside Job 41:40 The Appeal And What Comes Next 43:05 Eddie Parra And The Judas Witness Claim 44:35 Dr. Umar Warns Karmelo About Prison Calls 46:05 Austin Metcalf’s Dad Goes Viral 47:25 Dr. Umar Reacts To Jeff Metcalf’s Rant 49:00 The Victim Impact Moment 50:35 Conditioning Is Stronger Than Intelligence 52:10 Trump And Public Racism 53:45 Where Were The Other Groups For Karmelo? 55:15 Black First 56:45 Jake Lang Outside The Courthouse 58:15 Final Thoughts On Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf And Justice.
#DrUmarJohnson #KarmeloAnthony #AustinMetcalf #JeffMetcalf #ItsUpThere #BigLoon #loon Dr. Umar says the Karmelo Anthony case is bigger than one courtroom. Was 35 years justice, or did the trial expose a double standard?
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