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Dr. Umar Johnson returns to It’s Up There with Loon for a full episode conversation on the Karmelo Anthony case, Austin Metcalf, the 35-year sentence, Austin Metcalf’s dad, no Black jurors, stand your ground, self-defense, the appeal, race, and the trial that has divided America. In this episode, Dr. Umar goes all the way in on why he believes the Karmelo Anthony case is bigger than one courtroom. He reacts to the verdict, the 35-year sentence, the no-Black-juror issue, the self-defense argument, Austin Metcalf’s father, the defense team, the witness situation, and the larger question of whether Black children are allowed to defend themselves in America. Loon presses Dr. Umar on the questions people are arguing about right now: Was 35 years justice? Did Karmelo Anthony get a fair trial? Was “touch me and see what happens” a threat or a warning? Would Dr. Umar defend a white teen if the roles were reversed? Did Austin Metcalf’s dad go too far after the verdict? And what should Karmelo’s family do next with the appeal? Dr. Umar also speaks on multiculturalism, Black first, Jake Lang outside the courthouse, the father’s viral rant, Eddie Parra, the defense team, legal execution, jury selection, and why he believes this case exposed a deeper double standard in America. Editorial note: This episode contains commentary and allegations stated by the speakers. Claims about disputed facts, legal strategy, jury selection, race, and individuals involved in the case are attributed to the speakers and should be understood as commentary.
00:00 Dr. Umar Johnson Returns To It’s Up There 01:25 The Pan-African Fast And Spiritual Discipline 03:05 Numerology, Destiny And Alignment 04:35 Why Wealth Comes With Black Responsibility 06:10 Michael Jackson, Money And Philanthropy 07:40 Repentance, Forgiveness And Arrogance 09:15 Loon Brings Up The Karmelo Anthony Case 10:25 Dr. Umar Reacts To The Verdict 11:55 Why Umar Says This Case Is Bigger Than Court 13:25 The Original Crime In America Is Being Black 14:55 Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf And Race In America 16:30 Zimmerman, Rittenhouse, Daniel Penny And Rick Chow Comparisons 18:20 Stand Your Ground And Black Self-Defense 20:00 Could Karmelo Anthony Get A Fair Trial? 21:25 No Black Jurors In The Trial 22:45 Dr. Umar Says Multiculturalism Died 24:15 35 Years For Karmelo Anthony 25:35 Was Murder The Right Charge? 27:00 The Grand Jury Question 28:20 Karmelo Anthony Being Tried As An Adult 29:45 The Caysen Allison Comparison 31:10 Loon Asks The Role-Reversal Question 32:40 Would Umar Defend A White Teen? 34:05 Threat Or Warning? 35:25 The Self-Defense Argument 37:00 Dr. Umar Questions The Defense Team 38:30 The Private Investigator Question 39:55 Why Umar Says The Trial Was An Inside Job 41:40 The Appeal And What Comes Next 43:05 Eddie Parra And The Judas Witness Claim 44:35 Dr. Umar Warns Karmelo About Prison Calls 46:05 Austin Metcalf’s Dad Goes Viral 47:25 Dr. Umar Reacts To Jeff Metcalf’s Rant 49:00 The Victim Impact Moment 50:35 Conditioning Is Stronger Than Intelligence 52:10 Trump And Public Racism 53:45 Where Were The Other Groups For Karmelo? 55:15 Black First 56:45 Jake Lang Outside The Courthouse 58:15 Final Thoughts On Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf And Justice.
#DrUmarJohnson #KarmeloAnthony #AustinMetcalf #JeffMetcalf #ItsUpThere #BigLoon #loon Dr. Umar says the Karmelo Anthony case is bigger than one courtroom. Was 35 years justice, or did the trial expose a double standard?
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Jay-Z came outside at Roots Picnic, and everybody immediately started arguing about the obvious stuff. Who was he dissing? Was it Drake? Was it Nicki? Was it Kanye? Was it Dame Dash? Was the freestyle hard or was it “mid”? But Loon says the real play is underneath all of that. In this solo episode of It’s Up There, Loon breaks down the part of Jay-Z’s freestyle that most people missed — why Drake may have the internet, the fan base, the streamers, and the narrative machine on his side, but Jay-Z may be trying to pull him into a completely different kind of fight. And that is where it gets dangerous. Because Loon also believes Jay-Z made one mistake that gave the internet exactly what it needed to flip the conversation before the bars could even breathe. This episode gets into Jay-Z’s Roots Picnic freestyle, Drake’s narrative advantage, Akademiks’ reaction, Dame Dash, Nicki Minaj, Kanye, the “too old” conversation, and why hip-hop media is no longer just reacting to rap beef — it is helping shape it. Then Loon gets into the Diddy and Daphne Joy tape fallout, 50 Cent’s response, industry relationships, public embarrassment, co-parenting, and what happens when private choices become public content. This is not a reaction. This is the play behind the play. 00:00 Loon Returns 00:42 The Algorithm Is Forcing A Schedule 02:15 Hip-Hop Media Is In A Strange Place 03:18 You Buy The Game With Your Attention 04:02 Jay-Z Steps Back Outside 05:19 The Narrative Was Already Moving 06:31 Jay-Z’s Roots Picnic Freestyle 09:55 Loon Reacts To The Freestyle 10:41 What Everybody Missed About Jay-Z And Drake 12:22 Rap Beef Is Bigger Than Bars Now 13:10 The “Mid” Narrative 14:15 The Mistake Loon Thinks Jay-Z Made 15:29 Why Jay-Z Can’t Tiptoe Around Certain Conversations 16:17 The Age Narrative Around Hov 18:17 Akademiks’ Jay-Z Take 19:14 The Machine Comes For Jay-Z 20:00 Why Even Jay-Z Hears The Noise 22:05 When Narratives Start Growing Legs 24:11 Nicki, Kanye, Drake And Fan Base Power 25:04 Hip-Hop’s Problem With Aging 26:24 Why Artists Can’t Just Drop Music Anymore 27:21 The Commander-In-Chief Metaphor 28:14 Akademiks Breaks Down Jay-Z 30:21 How Stats Get Used Against Artists 31:33 The Media Tricks Loon Caught 33:17 Should Drake, Nicki Or Kanye Respond? 34:18 Is Hip-Hop Trying To Age Jay-Z Out? 36:11 Why The Narrative Is Sticking 36:58 Did Jay-Z Spread Enough Money Around? 38:11 The Real Drake Setup 39:01 Drake’s Creative Armor 40:13 The Place Jay-Z May Be Trying To Pull Drake 41:15 Why Jay-Z Really Came Outside 42:00 Hip-Hop Legends Are Not Trespassing 43:20 Artists And Media Need Each Other 44:12 Jay-Z, T.I. And Comeback Energy 45:12 Diddy Tape Fallout 46:21 Daphne Joy, Love And Surrender 47:22 Diddy’s Red Light Situation 48:47 Loon Reacts To The Tape 53:37 50 Cent Responds 55:29 Co-Parenting And Public Embarrassment 57:05 Drake, Sauce Walka And Relationship Games 58:25 Why Loon Avoids Industry Love Triangles 59:22 Choosing Who You Have Children With Matters 01:01:00 Final Thoughts Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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YK Niece says Whim Whamiee broke apart when she started getting love. She talks Pluto, Cardi B, Belly Gang Kush, Glorilla, Metro Boomin, Rob49, body-shaming, her first album & more. YKNiece sits down with Loon on It’s Up There for her first real long-form conversation, opening up about the WHIM WHAMIEE rise that changed her life, the emotional reality behind the fame, and the moments fans never got to fully understand. In Part 1, YK Niece talks about crying After a Cardi B moment, almost rearranging her whole night just to make the State Farm Arena appearance, and why that moment meant so much to her. She also breaks down the story behind Whim Whamiee, Friend Do Remix , Innit & how the record came together with Pluto, why she says it was never supposed to be a group situation, and what happened when the energy shifted after the song exploded. Loon also asks YKNiece about the Belly Gang Kush dating rumors, her organic fan base, Atlanta rallying behind her, Metro Boomin calling her for “Take Me Thru Dere,” Rob49 blessing her album, and why she refuses to let the industry change her. She talks about confidence, being body-shamed, reading comments, staying true to herself, and why fans love her because she still feels like a regular Black girl from the city. This conversation is bigger than a WHIM WHAMMIE song. It’s about a young woman stepping into fame in real time, learning the business, protecting her spirit, and showing the world that YK Niece is not just a moment — she is building a career. Part 2 is available now on Patreon. YK Niece gets emotional about Cardi B, explains the Whim Whamiee fallout with Pluto, responds to Belly Gang Kush dating rumors, talks Metro Boomin, Rob49, fame, confidence & staying herself.
00:00 YK Niece Pulls Up To It’s Up There 01:20 Life Changing After Whim Whamiee 02:52 Crying After The Cardi B Moment 04:31 Almost Getting A Jet To Make Cardi B’s Show 06:05 The State Farm Arena Night With Belly Gang Kush 07:42 Fly Guy DC Helping Make It Happen 09:08 Why She Wanted To Pop Out For The Home Team 10:31 Making It From Cardi B To Texas 12:02 How “In It” Proved She Could Rap 13:39 Atlanta Rallying Around YK Niece 15:13 Metro Boomin Calling Her For “Take Me Thru Dere” 16:55 How Whim Whamiee Was Created 18:42 Friends In The Studio Before The Fallout 20:14 Why Whim Whamiee Was Never A Group 21:48 When The Love Started Changing Things 23:21 The Pluto Fallout 24:58 Losing Friendships Before Fame 26:30 Why YK Niece Says She’s A Real Friend 28:05 Building Organic Love Without Paying Blogs 29:38 Why Fans Love Her Regular Style 31:11 Body-Shaming, Ugly Comments & Confidence 33:04 Why The Industry Won’t Change Her 34:49 Belly Gang Kush Dating Rumors 36:30 YK Niece Reveals Her First Album Is Finished 38:03 What Does YK Stand For? 39:28 Rob49 Blessing The Album 41:02 Would YK Niece Go Back To Work If Rap Failed? 42:45 Being A Regular Black Girl In Rap 44:22 Growing Up In Church & Sunday Dinners 46:02 Her Father Getting Shot Before A Show 48:01 Still Performing For The Fans 49:48 Baddies, Zeus & Reality TV 51:40 Tyler Perry, Acting & Being Made For TV 53:35 Love, Kids & Protecting Her Peace
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Joe Budden put Drake’s ICEMAN review behind Patreon, Future responded after Loon’s Drake/Future commentary, Floyd Mayweather sued over $175M, and Breakfast Club is heading to Netflix. Joe Budden put the biggest Drake conversation behind Patreon. Fans wanted the ICEMAN breakdown, but the JBP review was locked behind membership while the internet debated whether Joe was making the audience pay for the moment. At the same time, Future publicly backed Drake after Loon called out the quiet Drake/Future reunion rollout, posting that he and ICEMAN were “back by popular demand.” On this episode of It’s Up There Podcast, Loon breaks down the real story underneath the headlines: the culture is moving from free attention into paid rooms. Joe Budden’s Drake coverage became the perfect example. Loon explains why there is nothing wrong with creators monetizing loyal fans — but there is a difference between building a paid community and punishing discovery. When the biggest public conversation disappears behind a wall, the audience starts to feel like the moment was taken from them. Then Loon revisits his Drake/Future commentary. After saying Drake and Future did not give the culture enough around their reunion, Future publicly showed love to Drake, making it clear that the conversation had reached the people involved. For Loon, that proves It’s Up There Podcast is not just reacting to the culture — the culture is reacting back. Loon also breaks down Floyd Mayweather’s $175 million lawsuit and why it hits so hard after years of “Money Mayweather” branding. Floyd controlled distance in the ring, controlled the pay-per-view narrative, and became a symbol of wealth. But this lawsuit raises a bigger question: what is wealth if you cannot protect it? With The Breakfast Club moving to Netflix as the platform’s first daily live show, Loon explains why podcasting is changing in real time. YouTube is discovery. Netflix is prestige. Patreon is loyalty. The free episode creates the fan, but the paywall monetizes the believer. This episode also touches Ant Jefe, No Jumper, gang culture, DP politics, and how street identity can follow people even after they move into media. This is not gossip. This is the business behind the culture. New full episodes every Monday on It’s Up There Podcast. Join the congregation for exclusive drops and behind-the-scenes content: Patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast Subscribe to It’s Up There Podcast for full episodes every Monday. For behind-the-scenes content, extra conversations, and exclusive drops, join the congregation on Patreon: Patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast Chapters 00:00 Intro — Welcome To It’s Up There Podcast 00:20 The Future Of Podcasting & The Paywall Conversation 00:55 Joe Budden Paywalls His Drake ICEMAN Breakdown 01:43 The Breakfast Club Moves Toward Netflix 02:28 Loon Revisits Drake’s ICEMAN Rollout 02:47 Drake & Future Reunite But Was It Enough? 04:30 Future Tweets After Loon’s Commentary 05:32 Drake’s Chart Run & The Narratives Around Him 07:34 What Critics Want From Drake Now 08:18 Rick Ross, Grown Man Rap & Drake’s Next Level 10:16 Drake, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne & Cash Money Politics 12:30 Floyd Mayweather’s $175M Lawsuit Explained 13:22 Why Floyd’s Situation Is About Trust, Excess & Power 14:16 Drake’s Independent Fight & Label Support 15:58 Why Winning Too Long Can Make Failure Hard To Admit 17:34 Floyd’s Financial Trouble Becomes A Culture Story 18:41 Money Mayweather, Showtime & The Brand Trap 20:07 Floyd Controlled Distance But Missed The Ringside Opponent 21:30 Floyd Became Commercial For Being Rich 22:30 50 Cent, Floyd & The Missed Business Warning 24:12 Giving Floyd Grace For Taking An Unconventional Route 25:55 What Is Wealth If You Can’t Protect It? 27:07 Floyd Changed Boxing Business Forever 28:07 Will Floyd Have To Put The 50-0 Record On The Line? 29:32 When Somebody Close Steals, It Becomes Education 31:23 Undefeated In The Ring, Losing In The Fine Print 33:51 Ant Jefe Arrested & No Jumper Conversation 37:38 DP Culture, Gang Politics & A 51-Year-Old Victim 41:00 Loon Explains DP Politics From His Vantage Point 45:23 How Gang Culture Became Contaminated & Commercialized 48:01 Joe Budden, Drake, Patreon & Podcast Paywalls 48:52 Breakfast Club On Netflix Is Bigger Than People Think 50:30 How Streaming Changed Consumer Behavior 53:25 Every Paywall Ain’t The Same 55:42 YouTube Is Discovery, Netflix Is Prestige, Patreon Is Loyalty 56:53 Free Content Creates The Fan 58:18 The Danger Of Monetizing Too Early 01:01:15 Loon Sends The Collection Plate Around 01:02:21 Outro — See You Next Week #ItsUpTherePodcast #Loon #FloydMayweather #JoeBudden #Drake #Future #TheBreakfastClub #Charlamagne #Netflix #Patreon #HipHopMedia #PodcastBusiness #NoJumper #AntJefe #ICEMAN Tap in, drop your thoughts, and join the congregation on Patreon: Patreon.com/ItsUpTherePodcast
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Benzino finally addresses the Coi Leray fallout, the long Eminem war, and what really happened to The Source money as Loon keeps pressing the questions he’s spent years sidestepping. Main description Benzino sits down with Loon for a conversation that goes way past surface drama. Outside the room, people still know him for the Eminem war, the public fracture with Coi Leray, the Elliott Wilson/XXL fight, and the 1995 Source Awards documentary. But Loon keeps dragging the conversation back to the harder payoff: what happened to The Source money, whether ego and the Eminem battle compromised the magazine, and why Benzino sounds detached about losing millions while still sounding wounded on family. That’s what makes this episode work. Benzino explains how he saw Eminem as a race-and-power issue, not just a rap issue; says the Eminem fight did compromise The Source to some degree; opens up on the disappointment around Coi Leray; defends the 95 Source Awards as a turning point for the whole culture; and still insists XXL copied The Source instead of ever really beating it. This is Benzino answering for family pain, old wars, money lost, legacy protected, and a hip-hop empire he says people still don’t fully understand. This isn’t just “Benzino on Eminem again.” Loon presses him on the part people still care about: the Coi Leray fallout, the Source money, the ego, the Dave Mays trust, the 95 Source Awards, and whether one of hip-hop’s biggest media empires was lost because Benzino never really changed how he moved.
0:00 - Coi Leray and the Public Family Wound 4:37 - Does Benzino Still Hate Eminem? 9:18 - Why He Saw Eminem as a Race-and-Power Issue 14:06 - Did the Eminem War Compromise The Source? 18:52 - What Happened to The Source Money? 23:41 - Dave Mays, Trust and the $12 Million Internet Move 28:27 - Did Benzino Fumble an Empire? 33:11 - Hip Hop Weekly and the Second Act 38:02 - The Source vs XXL / Elliott Wilson 42:48 - The 95 Source Awards Documentary 47:39 - Suge, Snoop, OutKast and the Night Hip-Hop Changed 53:06 - Why Benzino Thinks Hip-Hop Fell Into the Wrong Hands 57:41 - What Loon Wouldn’t Let Him Duck
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