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Loon takes aim at DJ Akademiks after Lil Durk's murder-for-hire acquittal and asks a bigger question about the relationship between hip-hop interviews, internet content and federal investigations. During Lil Durk's federal trial, prosecutors referenced portions of Durk's interview with Akademiks during closing arguments. Durk's attorneys later fought to have additional portions of the interview considered for context. Now Loon says the conversation can no longer stop at whether Akademiks intended to help or hurt Lil Durk. “Intent explains your heart. I'm dealing with his effect.” On Internal Affairs, Loon breaks down why he believes certain interview questions do more than create viral moments — especially when rappers are being questioned publicly about murder, retaliation, street conflicts and people they've lost. Loon argues that putting a rapper's pride, reputation and identity on trial in front of millions can pressure people into answering questions that may carry consequences far beyond the interview. The conversation becomes even more timely as Meek Mill publicly renews his criticism of Akademiks following Lil Durk's acquittal, accusing the streamer of fueling damaging narratives around successful rappers from the streets. Loon also challenges rappers themselves for continuing to sit for interviews where the questions can expose them legally. His warning is simple: The interviewer and artist may split the attention when the clip goes viral — but they don't split the consequences. Watch Loon break down DJ Akademiks, Lil Durk, Meek Mill, 6ix9ine and the bigger problem facing hip-hop media on Internal Affairs. #DJAkademiks #LilDurk #Loon Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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Wack 100 calls Loon and pushes back after his viral conversation with 6ix9ine becomes part of the evidence discussed in Lil Durk’s federal trial. Wack says the original interview has been misunderstood. According to Wack, he was questioning 6ix9ine about Tekashi’s own street claims and why he did not retaliate against the people he said kidnapped and robbed him. Wack says 6ix9ine then redirected the conversation toward Lil Durk and the now-infamous “Slide for Von” narrative. During the call, Wack makes it clear that the interview belongs to him and argues that nothing in the actual exchange substantiates claims about Lil Durk ordering or participating in anything. The larger debate is whether prosecutors and cooperating witnesses are using the viral 6ix9ine moment to establish that public pressure surrounding King Von’s death affected Durk. Wack 100 and Loon break down what was actually said, how the conversation changed direction and why that interview now matters inside one of hip-hop’s biggest federal trials. Subscribe for more Lil Durk trial coverage from Loon and Internal Affairs. #LilDurk #Wack100 #6ix9ine Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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Peewee Roscoe calls into Loon’s Internal Affairs and delivers a blunt assessment of Drew Findling during Lil Durk’s federal trial. Roscoe challenges Findling’s “billion-dollar lawyer” reputation and asks where the major murder-case victories are behind the high-profile image. While discussing Lil Durk’s legal team, Roscoe argues that celebrity clients, relationships with rappers and strong marketing do not automatically prove someone is the right lawyer for a case with stakes this high. Roscoe also reveals that he personally knows Drew Findling and says Findling previously attempted to represent him, giving additional context to why his criticism goes beyond what he has seen online. The conversation comes as Lil Durk continues fighting his federal case with Drew Findling and Brian Steel leading key parts of the defense. Do you think Peewee Roscoe is exposing a real gap between Drew Findling’s reputation and his courtroom résumé, or is he underestimating Durk’s legal team? Subscribe for more Lil Durk trial coverage from Loon and Internal Affairs. #LilDurk #PeeweeRoscoe #DrewFindling 00:00 — Peewee Roscoe Interrupts Over Drew Findling 00:18 — “$1 Billion Lawyer?” 00:36 — Why Roscoe Gives Brian Steel More Credit 00:48 — “Show Me What’s Billion-Dollar in Court” 00:58 — Roscoe Says Some of the Image Is Marketing 01:10 — Where Are Drew’s Murder Wins? 01:23 — Roscoe Reveals Drew Tried to Represent Him Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO
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Loon breaks down a part of Lil Durk’s federal case that could be easy to overlook: beating the murder-for-hire theory may not automatically remove the possibility of a life sentence. During the conversation, Loon examines the stalking-resulting-in-death count and why the alleged connection between Durk, the vehicles, the people involved and the underlying conduct could become critically important. The bigger question becomes whether Durk’s defense can break the legal bridge prosecutors are attempting to establish between him and the alleged stalking operation. Loon also explains why simply focusing on whether Durk personally committed a murder can miss the larger legal issue being argued in federal court. This conversation is commentary and analysis of the ongoing Lil Durk federal trial. Lil Durk has denied involvement in the alleged murder-for-hire scheme. Subscribe for more Lil Durk trial coverage and cultural analysis from Loon. Watch extended episodes on Patreon. #LilDurk #LilDurkTrial #Loon Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO 0:00 Analyzing the Legal Strategy 0:28 The Hidden Details of the Trial 2:24 Reflecting on Culture and Community 6:02 The Conclusion of the Tupac Trial 13:05 The Economy of the Tupac Universe 19:36 Navigating Federal Evidence Rules 26:36 The Damage of Testimony 43:04 The Risk of Taking the Stand 1:17:02 The Impact of External Influences
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On this episode of Internal Affairs, Loon goes deep on the Lil Durk trial: Kanye West, India Royale and Doodie Lo, Trap Lore Ross, OTF Jam, Drew Findling, Brian Steel and Zül-Qarnain. The conversation goes far beyond what happened inside the courtroom. Loon examines the spectacle surrounding Lil Durk’s federal trial and questions whether some of the people showing support outside are actually helping Durk—or turning one of the most serious moments of his life into content. Zül-Qarnain joins the show after attending the trial at the request of Durk’s father, Dontay “Big Durk” Banks. He explains what he saw inside and outside the courthouse, his encounter with Trap Lore Ross, why misinformation surrounding the case became a concern, and what Durk’s family is dealing with as the trial unfolds. Loon also breaks down what Kanye West showing up at the courthouse communicated to the public, his interpretation of the viral India Royale and Doodie Lo moment, and why the lack of sustained major-media attention surrounding such a high-profile federal trial matters. The episode also digs into the legal battle itself: OTF Jam’s testimony, the defense strategy surrounding OTF Vonni, Brian Steel’s courtroom tactics, questions around Drew Findling’s public media appearances, and the debate over whether Lil Durk should ever take the stand. Beyond the headlines, Internal Affairs asks a larger question: when somebody from the culture is fighting for his life, what does useful support actually look like? Lil Durk has pleaded not guilty. The charges and allegations discussed in this episode remain allegations unless established in court. Subscribe to Internal Affairs for long-form conversations about culture, media, accountability, business and the issues happening inside our community. #LilDurk #LilDurkTrial #InternalAffairs DISCLAIMER: Lil Durk and all co-defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. Testimony, allegations and arguments discussed in this episode are part of an ongoing criminal proceeding and are not findings of guilt. INTERNAL AFFAIRS provides news commentary, cultural analysis and opinion.
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0:00 Lil Durk Trial — What This Episode Is Really About 1:21 Victims, Stakes & Why This Isn’t Entertainment 2:22 Loon Goes Off on the Courthouse Clout Chase 7:00 Welcome to Internal Affairs 8:07 Should Lil Durk Testify? Loon Changes His Position 12:21 What’s Happening Outside Federal Court 13:45 India & Doodie Lo — Loon’s Read on the No-Hug Moment 17:55 Why Playing Durk’s Music Outside Court Matters 20:14 What “Free Durk” Is Supposed to Mean 21:49 Drew Findling’s Public Strategy Questioned 26:27 OTF Jam, Gang Structure & the Government’s Case 31:34 Federal Informants & the DOJ Rules Debate 45:01 How the Jury May Hear OTF Jam’s Gang Testimony 51:03 Brian Steel’s “Accomplished Durk Banks” Strategy 1:06:27 Why the Major-Media Gap Matters 1:11:28 Trap Lore Ross vs. Brian Steel’s Defense 1:17:58 Trap Lore Ross & the Courthouse Tension 1:30:50 Kanye West Shows Up for Lil Durk 1:40:33 Zül-Qarnain Joins Internal Affairs 1:46:49 What Zül Saw Outside the Courthouse 1:51:13 Big Durk’s Request & Positive Media for Durk 1:56:28 Should Lil Durk Take the Stand? 2:01:28 Zül Explains the Trap Lore Ross Confrontation 2:09:32 India, Durk’s Family & the Courtroom Energy 2:20:51 Monetizing Lil Durk’s Trial 2:23:10 Big Durk’s Mindset Through the Trial 2:35:06 Final Message to Everyone Supporting Durk
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