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Law at the End of the World

Elizabeth Macpherson and Cristy Clark
Law at the End of the World
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  • Green transitional justice, reparations, and ecocide - Episode 7 (with Rachel Killean)
    In this episode of Law at the End of the World, hosts Cristy & Liz discuss updates in environmental law, focusing on the concept of ecocide and its implications for justice. Dr Rachel Killean joins to discuss how her experiences in Cambodia shaped her focus on transitional and environmental justice. She introduces her upcoming book, Green Transitional Justice   and reflects on the value of reparative approaches and curiosity in research. Show notesLondon Climate Action Week Vegan Gluten-Free Banana Bread Just CauseGovernment undermines regional powers to protect coastal biodiversityWetland restoration is seen as sunk costBiodiversity Credits, Stolen Land, and the Risk of Recolonising AotearoaEpisode 239: Legacies of Colonialism, Dr. Olivia MasonWorld’s first Indigenous-led ocean reserveMelanesian Ocean ReserveWoodside's gas extension: another legal challenge Revealed: the astonishing emissions that will result from the North West Shelf project Pabai Pabai & Anor v Commwealth of AustraliaBilly & others v. AustraliaWould you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note hereVisit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. You can also find us on the following platforms: LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy Bluesky - Liz & Cristy Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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  • Oceans of knowledge - Episode 6 (with Karen Fisher, Emily Parke, Dan Hikuroa and Linda Faulkner)
    In this special episode of Law at the End of the World, we feature a discussion with leading ocean governance experts Dr Karen Fisher, Dr Emily Parke, Associate Professor Dan Hikuroa & Linda Faulkner. Recorded live during an event aligned with the UN Oceans Conference in Nice, they dive into the future of ocean law and governance.Guests unpack the complexities of marine regulation, urging inclusive approaches that centre Indigenous knowledge, local perspectives, and western science. Liz and Cristy reflect through the lens of legal pluralism and share their hot takes on recent legal developments.This one’s a little longer - feel free to dip into the parts that resonate (pun intended)Show notes:Tonga Rights of Whales Sustainable SeasRights of Nature: a Legal Response to the Environmental Crisis? Waka-TauruaEcocideRaelene Cooper v Minister for Environment and Water (Fed Court)Court battle to protect MurujugaHandbook on Climate LitigationIndigenous-led Rights-based Approaches to Climate LitigationOcean DecadeNZ Climate litigationMāui & Hector’s dolphins Orange roughy caseEC v SpainFrench Polynesia MPANew Zealand must protect the oceanNZ lags in protecting Would you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note hereVisit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. You can also find us on the following platforms: LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy Bluesky - Liz & Cristy Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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  • Water connects us all - Episode 5 (with Aurora Kagawa-Viviani)
    In this episode of Law at the End of the World, we’re joined by interdisciplinary water researcher Dr Aurora Kagawa-Viviani, who shares her journey navigating the complex, and often joyful, terrain of collaborative, community-based research. Aurora speaks to the importance of building relationships across university and community settings, integrating Indigenous knowledge systems, and maintaining balance between academic life and personal wellbeing.Cristy and Liz discuss their own experiences in interdisciplinary legal research, sharing lessons learned from working across fields. The episode wraps up with hot takes on recent developments in environmental law.Show notes:Setting a pluralist agenda for water governance: Why power and scale matterGlobal water systems: attention on power dynamics and scale mismatchesFrontiers Planet Prize winnersAurora Kagawa-VivianiEA acknowledges issues with “offsetting”Scientist concerns over government interference with rock art reportAustralia's largest gas project, approved for extension to 2070Parents for Climate v EnergyAustralia‘Carbon neutral’ is deadAppeal rejected: the case of the Peruvian mountain guide Lliuya against RWEConsultation on RMA national directionEDS concerns over review of National Direction (RMA)Carbon removals strategy MfE Jacinda Ardern, 2025 Yale Class Day SpeakerWould you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note hereVisit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. You can also find us on the following platforms: LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy Bluesky - Liz & Cristy Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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  • Prefiguring a better, post-growth world - Episode 4 (with Birsha Ohdedar)
    In this episode of Law at the End of the World, we’re joined by Dr Birsha Ohdedar - legal scholar, climate justice advocate, and thinker on post-growth futures. Birsha shares his academic journey, insights on navigating the tensions between scholarly work and real-world impact, and reflections on law's role in climate and environmental justice. He speaks on the promise of post-growth frameworks, prefigurative legalities, and the importance of slowing down to reimagine what law can do.Reflecting on Birsha’s interview, hosts Cristy Clark and Elizabeth Macpherson explore the challenges of parenting within academia and make a case for slow scholarship in a high-pressure sector. The episode closes with updates on current developments in environmental law and future directions for research.Show notes:See below for a list of resources relevant to the themes or issues discussed during this episodeClarke, Cristy Prefiguring legal alternatives in environmental and climate justice struggles in AustraliaFor more on our guest Birsha Ohdedar's workEnvironment Minister Murray Watt heads west to restart 'Nature Positive' talks, with a decision on Woodside's gas project loomingCrisafulli government reneges on pre-election funding pledge by axing environmental legal aidLandmark Legal Victory for England’s Rivers: The Court of Appeal's Pickering Judgment - Environmental Law FoundationThe UK Rights of Nature networkSwimmable Cities Summit 2025 - Rotterdam Regulatory Standards Bill 155-1 (2025), Government Bill – New Zealand Legislation Indigenous Rights in One Minute : What You Need to Know to Talk Reconciliation – Harbour PublishingHigher Expectations – Between the Lines: How to Survive Academia, Make it Better for Others, and Transform the UniversityOne Ocean Science CongressWould you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note hereVisit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. You can also find us on the following platforms: LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy Bluesky - Liz & Cristy Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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  • Thriving as an academic (and pracademic) - Episode 3
    In this episode, Elizabeth and Cristy discuss the concept of 'pracademia' - the intersection of academic and practical legal work. Thie conversation begins with reflections from Liz's recent keynote address for early career researchers (ECRs) in Canterbury, titled How to survive (and thrive) as an academic. Topics include insights on surviving (and thriving) in academia, emphasising the role of 'shameless self-promotion' and embracing rejection as a ncessary part of acadmic life and of growth. Cristy adds her perspective with a candid confession of her obsession with productivity hacks featuring shoutouts to On the Reg and TextExpanderIn the second half of the episode, Liz and Cristy dive into recent developments in environmental law. Liz covers a slew of legislative changes in Aotearoa New Zealand, including a rushed amendment to the Wildlife Act - described as protecting vulnerable roads and mines from skinks, geckos and frogs,  as well as the Equal Pay Amendment Act. She also shares the exciting appointment of Gerard Albert (Whanganui Iwi) to the Waitangi Tribunal. Cristy discusses the Australian election results and highlights several climate cases progressing through international bodies such as the European Court of Human Rights and the African Court of Human and Peoples’ Rights. Links and further resources:What I wish I knew: 33 thoughts for early career researchersAmendment to Wildlife Act ‘unnecessary and muddled’Fighting nitrate pollution in Canterbury: MHVAnne Salmond: She won't be right, mateLaw change protects vulnerable roads and mines from skinks, geckos and frogsDairy dominates science panel as Govt milks research for profitStudents for Climate Solutions Incorporated v Minister of Energy and Resources [2024]The country is not prepared for climate impacts, say advisors​Campaigners take UK government's climate adaptation to ECHRWould you like to leave us a comment about our show? send us a note hereVisit our podcast website - where you can find more information, including the show notes. We would also like to acknowledge and thank our producer, Claire Burgess. You can also find us on the following platforms: LinkedIn - Liz & Cristy Bluesky - Liz & Cristy Our websites - Liz & Cristy
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