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  • Episode 114: Awesome POSM and Jellyfish Visualizations for the Cardano Community with Christian, Tex, and Johnny
    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 114 In this episode of CHAOSScast, hosts Georg Link and Nicole Huesman engage in a deep discussion with Christian Taylor, Terence (Tex) McCutcheon, and Johnny Kelly about measuring and enhancing open source community health through innovative methods. Christian and his team share their experiences in implementing the 'paid open source model' within the Cardano blockchain community, designed to retain and motivate contributors. The panel discusses a variety of topics, including governance models, the integration of AI for report generation, and the challenges of balancing open source principles with corporate interests. They also explore specific tools and metrics used to evaluate project health and community engagement, providing an illuminating look into the future of open source development. Hit the download button now! [00:01:40] Our guests give a brief introduction. [00:04:37] Christian provides a non-technical intro to Cardano, a top blockchain focused on peer reviewed, academic rigor. [00:06:07] Johnny explains Cardano’s high decentralization via SPOs, DReps, and community tools like GovTool, and Christian outlines how open source ties in. [00:09:39] Christian talks about open source governance and Intersect and explains Intersect serves like the Linux Foundation for Cardano, holding code, facilitating contribution ladders, and launching an incubation program. [00:13:06] Georg gives a summary for those who are new: Cardano’s treasury is funded via blockchain transaction fees. This funding supports open source development, tools, documentation, and maintainers, and Christian elaborates more about this. [00:15:39] Johnny details governance and funding decisions and Christian emphasizes the transparency and checks and balance system. [00:17:08] Nicole raises concerns about aligning paid models with open source ethos and Christian discusses Intersect’s neutral, community-owned governance structure and internal checks and Johnny shares a link about the current members and the elective process within Intersect. [00:20:37] Christian shares using Bitergia and CHAOSS metrics to build out Cardano’s open source health dashboard. Focus areas were response times, geographic contributions, contribution ladders, and project maturity. [00:26:03] Tex shares their dashboard is public and useful for spotting high-impact projects. He aims to improve documentation standards and repo governance practices. [00:31:05] Georg gives a brief description of the “jellyfish diagrams” that show how developers connect across projects. [00:33:26] Christian shares their approach to using AI in metrics reporting and Tex emphasizes AI assists analysis but doesn’t replace human validation. [00:37:10] Nicole asks if the paid open source model is being shared externally. Christian confirms they presented the model at open source summits, validated it with leading experts, stress-tested with community input, and outlines a six month pilot of the model. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:44:06] Georg’s pick is going on his first cruise. [00:45:07] Christian’s pick is family. [00:45:54] Tex’s pick is simplicity. [00:46:38] Johnny’s pick is the Calidus Pool-Key. [00:47:54] Nicole’s pick is meeting and interviewing Dr. Laura Kelly. *Panelists: * Georg Link Nicole Huesman Guests: Christian Taylor Terence (Tex) McCutcheon Johnny Kelly Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Nicole Huesman X (https://twitter.com/uoduckswtd) Christian Taylor X (https://x.com/DeOpenSourceGuy) Christian Taylor LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-taylor-766b01b1/) Terence McCutcheon X (https://x.com/Tmacqt87) Terence McCutcheon LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tex-oso/) Johnny Kelly X (https://x.com/intertreeJK) Johnny Kelly LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/intertreejk/) Open Source Office at Intersect MBO (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/@osointersectmbo) Cardano (https://cardano.org/) Cardano GovTool (https://gov.tools/) Intersect (https://www.intersectmbo.org/) Intersect Committees (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/about/readme/committee-members) Open Source Office (OSO) (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/about/open-source-office-oso) Bitergia Repo Maturity Reports (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/all-monthly-reports/bitergia-repo-maturity-reports) Edinburgh Decentralization Index Dashboard (https://informatics.ed.ac.uk/blockchain/edi/dashboard) Contribution Ladder Framework (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/policies/contribution-ladder-framework) Current Open Source Committee Members list and Term Rotation Schedules (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/about/readme/committee-members) Bitergia Monthly Maturity Reports for 2025 (https://committees.docs.intersectmbo.org/intersect-open-source-committee/all-monthly-reports/bitergia-repo-maturity-reports/monthly-maturity-reports-2025) Introductory Article on POSM (Intersect) (https://www.intersectmbo.org/news/the-paid-open-source-model) Intersecting Open Source and Sustainability: A Paid Open Source Model for Ecosystems Full PDF (https://493748844-files.gitbook.io/~/files/v0/b/gitbook-x-prod.appspot.com/o/spaces%2FLBdnzp0eZpGri9sVpseI%2Fuploads%2FvuisqFT8uCyKSDgpNmyW%2FPaid%20Open%20Source%20Model-%20LIVE.pdf?alt=media&token=577c8bd1-c9df-43a0-8b57-e883ddb1254a) Bitergia Dashboard (https://intersectmbo.biterg.io/app/dashboards#/view/Overview) The Paid Open Source Model Concept (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4PgqaPWNT4) New Calidus Pool-Key for SPOs and Services Interacting with Pools (https://forum.cardano.org/t/new-calidus-pool-key-for-spos-and-services-interacting-with-pools/143812) She Lights the Way (https://shelightstheway.com/) Dr. Laura Kelly (https://drlaurakelly.com/) Special Guests: Johnny Kelly, Christian Taylor, and Terence (Tex) McCutheon.
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  • Episode 113: FOSS Backstage post-conference report
    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 112 In this special CHAOSS community panel episode, Harmony hosts a group discussion with Daniel Izquierdo, Peculiar Umeh, Cassie Seo, and Ijeoma Onwuka as they share their experiences at the FOSS Backstage conference held in Berlin. They dive into their goals for attending, the talks they gave, key takeaways, and what the open source community means to them. Topics covered include measuring social and economic impact through open source, building sustainable open-source projects, diversity in open-source communities, and various personal experiences and learnings that contribute to individual and community growth. Press download now to hear more! [00:00:29] Our guests introduce themselves and their backgrounds. [00:03:15] We start with FOSS Backstage conference takeaways from each guest. [00:08:49] Cassie recaps her panel, emphasizing the complexity of measuring impact in humanitarian and academic settings. [00:12:54] Sessions that stood out: Ijeoma points out a session on how open source can help meet UN SDGs and expresses interest in the newly released Open Source Principles. [00:14:35] Peculiar attended Stephen Pollard’s talk on an educational model by OpenChain, related to improving onboarding in open source. [00:16:30] Cassie learned about digital public health infrastructure via Bianca’s World Health Organization affiliated session. [00:17:58] Ijeoma was inspired by Dr. Wolfgang Gehring’s session on contributor efficiency and avoiding pseudo productivity. Cassie reiterates pseudo productivity issue and its implications in social impact metrics. [00:21:22] The discussion turns to people connections and Peculiar talks about meeting and connecting with Stephen Pollard and appreciating the support during her talk. Daniel saw value in meeting the broader community, and Ijeoma was proud to represent Nigeria and met CHAOSS members and other international speakers despite travel barriers. [00:25:07] There’s a conversation on what everyone learned at the conference. Cassie learned to overcome fear and embrace the value of her ideas despite technical difficulties and Peculiar felt deeply supported by the open source community during her illness mid-talk. [00:27:45] Daniel gained insight on EU regulation and how it affects small businesses and open source projects and Ijeoma learned to trust her voice and recognized the passion of global contributors. [00:30:19] We end with closing thoughts on the conference: Peculiar shares it was an amazing conference and is eager to attend future editions in person. Daniel reveals three hashtags to sum up his experience: Community, friends, and learning experience. Ijeoma called it an “exceptional” experience, including food, conversations, and inclusion. Cassie sums it up in three words: Urgency, care, and collaboration. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:01] Daniel’s pick is retro gaming. [00:32:22] Peculiar’s pick is connecting with someone that helped her with a certain skill. [00:32:54] Cassie’s pick is to go on a long walk every day without a phone. [00:33:46] Ijeoma’s pick is making sure each contribution I make to each project is very impactful. [00:34:18] Harmony’s pick is taking some late night drives and snack along the way. Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Daniel Izquierdo Peculiar Umeh Cassie Seo Ijeoma Onwuka Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Daniel Izquierdo LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dicortazar/?originalSubdomain=es) Ijeoma Onwuka LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/onwuka-ijeoma/) Cassie Jiun Seo LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassiejiunseo/) Peculiar Umeh LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/peculiar-c-umeh/?originalSubdomain=ng) FOSS Backstage 2025 Sessions (https://25.foss-backstage.de/sessions/) FOSS Backstage 2025 (https://25.foss-backstage.de/) Special Guests: Ijeoma Onwuka, Cassie Jiun Seo, and Peculiar Umeh.
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  • Episode 112: Community health metrics and open infrastructure decision making – with Chrys Wu, Invest in Open Infrastructure
    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 112 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Georg Link, along with Nicole Huesman and Ruth Ikegah, welcome guest Chrys Wu to discuss the findings from the “State of Open Infrastructure” report by Invest in Open Infrastructure (IOI). The episode dives into how community health frameworks shape open infrastructure decisions, highlighting various frameworks like CHAOSS metrics, the FOREST framework, and POSI. Chrys talks about the Infra Finder tool and the importance of trust in decision-making for open infrastructure. The conversation also touches on metrics for understanding community engagement, the challenges of resource allocation, and the impact of open infrastructure on research ecosystems. Press download now to find out more! [00:01:01] Chrys explains her role of product lead at IOI and leading the research for the “State of Open Infrastructure” report. [00:02:08] Why study community health frameworks? IOI heard repeated mentions of frameworks in conversations but wasn’t sure of their awareness or impact. [00:03:20] Chrys talks about the focus on three frameworks: CHAOSS, the FOREST framework (scholarly publishing), and POSI (The Principles of Open Scholarly Infrastructure). [00:06:20] Chrys defines “Open Infrastructure” that includes software, tools, standards, protocols used across the research lifecycle, and does not include hardware. [00:07:15] She shares some research findings that include a general low awareness of community health frameworks, trust is the key theme, and goes in depth with some primary concerns. [00:10:00] Ruth elaborates into CHAOSS metrics context explaining CHAOSS uses working groups to develop context-aware metrics and metrics and models help projects focus efforts, like identifying organizational diversity or adoption levels. [00:14:48] Who are CHAOSS metrics for? Ruth explains that metrics are made for the community: maintainers, users, contributors, and funders, and Georg talks about the origins of CHAOSS. [00:17:55] Chrys dives into the Infra Finder breakdown. She goes in depth what it gathers information on and how it allows organizations to assess readiness and sustainability of open infrastructure projects. [00:21:42] The Infra Finder has been used successfully in procurement processes. Chrys turns the conversation to talking about decision making. Users depend on peer feedback and case studies due to lack of formal sales/support in open source and she shares some key questions. [00:26:34] Nicole brings up the topic of supporting new contributors and there’s a discussion on how CHAOSS includes metrics to identify and support new contributors and resources include project badging, practitioner guides, and metric models. Also, Ruth talks about challenges for small projects. [00:31:35] Chrys details some information on how IOI helps improve project visibility by sharing entries and providing communications support. [00:32:38] As far as what’s next for the research they are doing, Chrys shares they’re doing more in-depth sharing of report findings coming soon and IOI invites collaborators to help build governance, strategy, and respond to community needs. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:35:16] Georg’s pick is electric vehicle infrastructure. [00:36:00] Nicole’s pick is the concept of slow travel. [00:37:03] Ruth’s pick is spontaneously hanging out with friends. [00:38:19] Chrys’s pick is Simon Willison’s Newsletter and her favorite musical group, SHINee. *Panelists: * Georg Link Nicole Huesman Ruth Ikegah Guest: Chrys Wu Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) Georg Link Website (https://georg.link/) Nicole Huesman X (https://twitter.com/uoduckswtd) Ruth Ikegah X (https://x.com/ikegahruth?lang=en) Chrys Wu LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chryswu/) Invest in Open Infrastructure (IOI) (https://investinopen.org/) Invest in Open Infrastructure Strategic Support (https://investinopen.org/strategic-support/) Invest in Open Infrastructure Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/investinopen.bsky.social) Invest in Open Infrastructure Mastodon (https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]) Invest in Open Infrastructure LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/invest-in-open/) IOI’s 2025 State of Open Infrastructure Report section, “Trust, transparency, and technology: Do community health frameworks shape open infrastructure decisions?” (https://investinopen.org/state-of-open-infrastructure-2025/sooi-signals-from-the-field-2025/#trust-transparency-and-technology-do-community-health-frameworks-shape-open-infrastructure-decisions) Infra Finder (https://infrafinder.investinopen.org/solutions) Infra Finder Expression of Interest (https://infrafinder.investinopen.org/solutions) CHAOSS Project DEI Metrics (https://github.com/chaoss/community/blob/main/DEI.md) FOREST Framework (https://www.nextgenlibpub.org/forest-framework) The Principles of Open Scholarly Infrastructure (https://openscholarlyinfrastructure.org/) 2025 State of Open Infrastructure: Trends in characteristics, funding, policy and community health (Zenodo) (https://zenodo.org/records/15198874) Simon Willison’s Newsletter (https://simonw.substack.com/) SHINee’s new single “Poet | Artist” (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF6P6BSPDRw) Special Guest: Chrys Wu.
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  • Episode 111: Introducing the CHAOSS Education Project
    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 111 In this episode of the CHAOSScast, host Harmony leads a discussion featuring panelists Dawn Foster, Peculiar Umeh, Aishat Muhammed, and Elizabeth Barron, all of whom are involved in the CHAOSS Education Project. They discuss their roles within the CHAOSS Project and introduce the CHAOSS Education Project, which aims to create accessible learning resources for open source contributors at various experience levels. They cover the project's categories, share their personal contributions, personal growth, the impact on the community, future plans for sustainability and expansion, and how you can contribute to the project. Hit download now to hear more! [00:00:27] The panelists introduce themselves and their backgrounds. [00:02:40] Peculiar gives an overview of the CHAOSS Education Project which launched at CHAOSScon Europe 2025. [00:04:39] Dawn talks about the target audience of the project, with the primary audience being CHAOSS community newcomers. and anybody can take any of the courses. [00:06:38] Elizabeth talks about her contribution with creating an ‘Into to CHAOSS’ video and helped review and update script content. [00:07:19] Aishat shares her contribution working on content about types of open source and licensing and how research deepened her own understanding. [00:09:20] Peculiar talks about her contributions as Project Manager where she led project design, content workflow, contributor onboarding, and quality review. [00:10:57] Dawn shares her contributions with creating the ‘Practitioner Guides’ videos and other key educational content. [00:12:12] Elizabeth speaks about the impact of the project, transitioning chaotic onboarding into a structured learning tool. [00:13:38] Aishat explains her personal growth form contributing, gaining deeper understanding of licensing and types of open source, and improving technical and collaborative skills. [00:14:45] Dawn shares her observations on community engagement and how happy she is seeing new faces, especially from CHAOSS Africa. [00:15:59] Peculiar shares her project management growth and how it enhanced her people skills, patience, and learned the value of diverse collaboration. [00:17:23] Harmony wants to know the future of CHAOSS Education Project and Elizabeth shares the project’s future and elaborates on the success of the project. [00:19:46] Aishat fills us in on how to contribute to the CHAOSS Education Project. [00:22:05] Peculiar talks about the global impact on the project with a streamlined onboarding process, positive community feedback, and universities and external communities using the materials. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:25:07] Harmony’s pick is to be open to mentor everyone as much as you can. [00:25:49] Dawn’s pick is vacations. [00:26:16] Elizabeth’s pick is “Good Things Happen to me and for me list.” [00:27:05] Aishat’s pick is friendship. [00:27:50] Peculiar’s** **pick is adventure. Panelist: Harmony Elendu Guests: Dawn Foster Peculiar Umeh Aishat Muhammed Elizabeth Barron Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Dawn Foster Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/geekygirldawn.bsky.social) Peculiar Umeh LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/peculiar-c-umeh/?originalSubdomain=ng) Elizabeth Barron LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethn/) Aishat Muhammed LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aishat-muhammed/) CHAOSS Education (https://chaoss.community/chaoss-education/) CHAOSS Education Project (https://chaoss.community/chaoss-education/) CHAOSS Education GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/education) Special Guests: Aishat Muhammed and Peculiar Umeh.
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  • Episode 110: 20m in CHAOSS Africa with Busayo Ojo and Yigakpoa Ikpae
    Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 110 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Harmony Elendu brings together two remarkable CHAOSS Africa contributors, Busayo Ojo and Yigakpoa Ikpae (Yiga), for an inspiring conversation in the "20 Minutes in CHAOSS Africa" series. They discuss how they discovered open source, navigated the CHAOSS community, overcame early confusion, and ultimately flourished as leaders and mentors. Also, they highlight the importance of participation, attending meetings, helping newcomers, and the unique initiatives within the CHAOSS community that help foster inclusivity and engagement. Press the download button now to hear more! [00:01:41] Busayo shares her open source journey that started in 2021. [00:04:08] Yiga shares finding her place with discovering CHAOSS at an event but initially didn’t understand it but returned after being inspired by the community’s warmth. [00:06:20] Busayo talks about settling into the community and praises CHAOSS for being welcoming, having an effective first-time contributor guide, and the importance of showing up and helping others. [00:10:54] Yiga talks about her first contributions and growth, starting with small tasks to build confidence, and becoming more involved through liaison and support roles. [00:12:46] Busayo explains how open source improved her career trajectory and global network, being inspired by other leaders, and forming lasting friendships. [00:14:21] Yiga explains her improved communication and leadership skills, learning humility and openness to feedback, and how contributions can open career doors. [00:17:02] Busayo shares her favorite CHAOSS initiatives including the Tour Guide Program, helping organize CHAOSScon Africa 2023, and the CHAOSS Hacktoberfest event. [00:19:59] What keeps Yiga going? She credits YouTube recordings for learning and highlights CHAOSS’s documentation culture and transparency. [00:20:55] Harmony reflects on how YouTube recordings helped him personally. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:21:20] Harmony’s pick is AI has been his personal assistant lately. * [00:21:48] Busayo’s pick is taking a break is very important. * [00:22:59] Yiga’s pick is using AI, take breaks, eat good food, and enjoy life. *Panelist: * Harmony Elendu Guests: Yigakpoa Ikpae (Yiga) Busayo Ojo Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@CHAOSStube/videos) [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) Harmony Elendu X (https://x.com/ogaharmony) Busayo Ojo (Medium) (https://medium.com/@ojobusayo99) Yigakpoa Ikpae (Yiga) (CHAOSS) (https://chaoss.community/chaossweekly-jan-22-26-2024/) CHAOSS Africa (https://github.com/chaoss/chaoss-africa) Special Guest: Yigakpoa Ikpae.
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