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Get the Check

Anika, Maya, Priya
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    Inside BuildForever: Naveen Gavini, Former Pinterest CPO, on Launching Extra and Building for Joy

    21-04-2026 | 57 Min.
    Today the hosts sat down with one of the pioneers of the early 2010s social media era, Naveen Gavini, ex-CPO of Pinterest and one of the company’s first 10 employees. They talk about the rise of social media and what he’s up to now (hint: he’s going back into the consumer tech space).
    If you've ever wondered why people say Pinterest maintained taste vs. Facebook and Instagram, Naveen explains the product decisions that intentionally led to that:
    Ordering the algorithm by saves instead of likes
    Not importing your contacts from Facebook
    Inspiration as a guiding principal over pure engagement
    Naveen was sitting at the dinners in the early 2010s when early Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter employees in Silicon Valley debated the ethics of the algorithm and foresaw the world we now live in, where social media and algorithms are shaping the next generation.
    The hosts ask Naveen what those employees saw coming, what they didn't, and why companies diverged in morals during this time. They also dive into what it was like to help take a company public. Fun fact, Pinterest’s IPO was exactly 7 years before today. Historically IPO access was limited to employees and investors, but now anyone can make money on a private company going public because of Kalshi’s IPO markets. This link gives you $10 when you trade $10: https://kalshi.com/sign-up?referral=getthecheck.
    They also dig into his new company, BuildForever, which is launching Extra, a consumer email product. Email is kind of dead. The hosts can't remember the last time they checked theirs (besides Maya, who's insane and goes through her promos inbox). Extra is rethinking email to be about your personal life and is focused on creating a delightful experience around it.
    They also get into the email application competitive landscape and why Extra is going to fill a gap not addressed by hyper productivity apps like Superhuman or Notion Mail. This is a true consumer product, one that long term can actually be proactive in your inbox, like "we saw you're going to NY, here's a hotel we knew you would like."
    Naveen is offering Get the Check listeners a free code to download the app today, even though it isn't publicly out yet. The first 50 people who download it from the App Store and use code GETTHECHECK become Extra’s first users. Here's the link! If you try it, let us know what you think :)
    00:00 Meet the ex-CPO and 10th employee at Pinterest
    00:27 Being the first person to think Pinterest should be an app
    04:00 What Pinterest did differently than IG and FB
    11:52 Why Pinterest prioritized values over engagement
    14:14 Why you don't notice Pinterest ads
    16:19 From engineer to CPO
    23:55 Saves versus likes on social media
    27:32 Taking a company through IPO
    34:58 Deciding to start a company after every says not to…
    36:27 Email needs a consumer angle
    38:59 Introducing Extra
    47:01 Monetizing in consumer social
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    Dimitri Knight on Taste in AI and What Designers Do Next

    14-04-2026 | 49 Min.
    Dmitri is a product designer who spent time at Cash App and Ramp, and is now on a deliberate career break — reading, thinking, and figuring out what design means in a world where AI can build the thing but can't decide if it's worth building.
    We discuss:
    - how he taught himself Photoshop at 11 through gaming forums and designed his first bank interface for a video game mod before working in FinTech
    - what taste actually is and why AI can't have it- how the designer role has quietly absorbed six other jobs over the last decade
    - the iconic design choices that shaped how we interact with technology — from Apple and the iPhone to the Nintendo Wii — and why most people never noticed them
    - why great customer service is a design problem that most companies treat as a cost center
    - why the most important design challenges left might have nothing to do with software at all
    00:00 Meet Dmitri
    00:28 Photoshop Origins
    01:48 Design vs Coding
    04:10 Roleplay Mods to UI
    09:30 Dropping Out Reset
    12:53 Apple and Product Design
    16:17 Generalist Designer Era
    17:40 AI Slop and Taste
    21:02 Tasteful vs Distasteful Brands
    23:04 Aesthetics Versus Substance
    24:54 Taste Icons Compared
    26:30 Customer Service Trust
    27:52 AI Commoditizes Software
    29:18 Designing For Meaning
    31:13 Quality Of Life Debate
    34:02 Information And Revolutions
    35:56 Voting And Local Community
    39:31 Design Beyond Software
    40:49 Career Break And Future Plans
    46:03 Gendered Founder Paths
    48:22 Impact Beyond Valuation
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    Mercor's 4TB hack, NASA going to the moon, Coefficient Bio's $400M acquisition by Anthropic

    07-04-2026 | 48 Min.
    Mercor got hacked, NASA went back to the moon, and Anthropic just dropped $400 million on a nine-person biotech startup. There's a lot to talk about.
    Maya, Anika, and Priya kick things off with the supply chain attacks that have been all over the news. A North Korean state actor called Team PCP compromised Trivy, an open source security scanner, which then cascaded into LiteLLM and Checkmarx, ultimately leading to 4TB of Mercor's data getting leaked, including biometric data and confidential training projects tied to OpenAI and Meta. They break down how the attack chain actually worked and how Mercor got their data back. They also debrief the future of cyber and why pinning your dependencies matters more than ever. They also look at who's building defenses in this space: Chainguard ($3.5B valuation), Socket (who detected the Axios attack in 6 minutes), and Cogent Security.
    Then they get into Artemis II, NASA's first crewed mission beyond low Earth orbit in 53 years. The real question is why now, and the answer is mostly China, who landed on the far side of the moon in 2019 and says they'll reach the south pole by 2028. They break down the $100 billion the US has spent so far, the heat shield failure that NASA quietly buried for three years, and how SpaceX and Blue Origin ended up fighting over lunar contracts. They also get into the Artemis Accords, why $1.5 trillion in lunar resources has turned the moon into a geopolitical chess match.
    Finally, the Get the Check segment covers Coefficient Bio, a nine-person team out of Genentech that got acquired by Anthropic for $400 million after just eight months. They get into how transformers apply to protein structure prediction, what AlphaFold unlocked, how the founders' "lab in the loop" paper cut drug discovery timelines by 70%, and what this signals about Anthropic building out a life sciences group. They also look at Chai Discovery (whose model gets 86% of designs to preclinical candidate selection) and Lila Sciences ($235M Series A), plus the Nvidia and Eli Lilly billion-dollar partnership.
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    00:00 TBPN's rumored $125M acquisition by OpenAI
    04:16 Supply chain attacks 101
    10:42 How Mercor got hacked
    20:33 Who's building cyber defense
    23:03 Artemis II: back to the moon after 53 years
    26:26 Why we are going to the moon (hint: China)
    28:28 NASA's heat shield cover-up
    31:34 $1.5T in lunar resources
    33:40 Would we go to space
    35:49 Coefficient Bio's $400M exit to Anthropic
    36:50 How AI is changing drug discovery
    41:46 Lab in the loop
    44:34 Predicting a bio talent gold rush
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    RL-as-a-Service, Iran War Oil Crisis, Reflection AI

    31-03-2026 | 44 Min.
    Maya, Anika, and Priya open this week's episode after spending two full hours trying to fix their new audio recorder, which made Priya miss her Solidcore class for the eighth time this month. Anything for the pod though!
    First they break down reinforcement learning as a service. Starting with what RL is and how DeepSeek popularized it’s efficacy. Companies like Applied Compute are trying to do for RL what AWS did for compute, except most enterprises can barely collect their own data properly, so the ROI of RL is an open question. The girls dig into why some companies like Sierra and Decagon have a clear use case for RL, while for others they may prefer relying on natural model improvements from the lab.
    Next, the Iran War and what the closure of the Strait of Hormuz is actually doing to the world. Crude oil has hit $113 a barrel. Fertilizer shortages are tanking corn yields in Zambia and Sri Lanka. There's a mid-April deadline that has analysts worried. In all the chaos none other than Putin has ended up on top. The hosts debate what may happen next along with everyone on Kalshi that’s been trading on related markets. You can trade too: https://kalshi.com/sign-up?referral=getthecheck.
    Finally, if Reflection AI would get the pod’s check. Reflection AI is the American open source lab rumored to be raising at a $25 billion valuation from JP Morgan and positioning itself as the western answer to DeepSeek. Maya and Anika debate how important it is for there to be an American open source model. Reflection has the model internally, but they haven't released it to the public yet. The pod is excited to see what they release and predict it’s coming soon.
    Now…a word from our sponsors :)
    Kalshi (https://kalshi.com/sign-up?referral=getthecheck) was one of the first believers in the pod, and they let you trade on anything. The link gives you $10 on when you trade $10. DM us on IG to hear what March Madness trades we are in! Important disclaimer: This is not financial advice. The information shared is for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be considered investment, financial, or trading advice. Always do your own research and consult with a qualified financial professional before making any financial decisions.
    Lotus Health (https://lotus.ai/) is an AI doctor you can chat with for free anytime. They just raised $41M, and you can download the app today. The pod tried it, and with just our basic info it pulled up every medication we’ve been on in the last 25 years, sent us relevant studies based on our demographic, and the app can even refer you to real clinicians.
    00:00 Intro02:52 RL explained03:40 Why RL became popular (shoutout DeepSeek)05:01 RLaaS06:36 Why DoorDash bought an RL company07:23 The ROI on RL14:17 RL players17:48 Cursor using RL on Composer in real time20:18 Metis acquisition22:05 Iran War23:39 Historical context on Iran25:39 Closure of the Straight of Hormuz27:28 When oil reserves will start to run out29:43 Impacts beyond oil33:54 Reflection AI funding34:45 Open vs closed AI models41:00 Why Nvidia wants to be on an open source model
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    Inside BCV: Partner Christina Melas-Kyriazi on AI applications and scouting an Olympian

    24-03-2026 | 52 Min.
    We sat down with Christina Melas-Kyriazi, Partner at Bain Capital Ventures. Before VC, she was a product leader at Affirm. She joined when it was a few hundred people and stayed through IPO. Now she backs founders building AI-enabled companies.We talk about:- How her first "scouting" experience wasn't in venture, it was in high school. She recruited a soccer player onto her cross country team who went on to become an Olympian and one of her closest friends for life- What she learned from Max Levchin at Affirm: the best founders hold the highest level of vision and the lowest level of detail at the same time, and that's what allows them to bend reality to their will- Her hot take on why mission-driven companies will out perform; she put $15M into MagicSchool AI and counts Carrot Fertility as one of her most memorable angel checks- Her answer to the question everyone's asking: where will the labs play vs. AI application companies- Why she gives her friends money with zero questions asked if they're starting a company- The positive imposter syndrome loopIf you're a founder exploring the future of AI and services, Christina is only one cold DM away

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