Abu and Leo break down the seven most egregious sins committed by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson in their Dune novels. They discuss the lack of depth in characters, the absence of subtlety in storytelling, and the overall boring and predictable nature of the plots. They also highlight the stark contrast between Brian Herbert's writing and that of his father, Frank Herbert, emphasizing the failure to capture the complexity and richness of the original Dune series.
This episode contains SPOILERS for the Brian Herbert prequel novels House Atreides, House Harkonnen, and House Corrino
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(00:00) Intro
(06:59) Sin #7: Bad writing
(13:24) Sin #6: No character depth
(23:11) Sin #5: Complete lack of subtlety or nuance
(30:52) Sin #4: Boring storytelling
(39:35) Sin #3: Nothing to say
(46:47) Sin #2: Complete disregard of lore
(01:05:26) Sin #1: Why are these stories necessary?
(01:11:13) Outro
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The Fullerton Archives: Rejecting Frank Herbert
Abu and Leo begin their coverage of the Frank Herbert Papers collection at Cal State Fullerton, bringing you Leo's in-the-moment reactions along with a thorough look at Dune's road to publication through the lens of the many rejection letters Frank and his literary agent received.
This episode contains LIGHT SPOILERS for Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune.
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Are the Bene Gesserit the Villains of Dune?
Abu and Leo take the Bene Gesserit to court– the charges? More than ANY OTHER party in Dune, the Bene Gesserit are the greatest risk to humanity. This is a courthouse drama for the history books!
This episode contains SPOILERS for all six of Frank's books!
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AUDIO DRAMA: Duncan Idaho Meets the God Emperor
Abu and Leo present an audio drama adaptation of one of their favorite chapters in God Emperor of Dune. Listen with headphones for the best experience.
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Directed & Edited by Abu Zafar
Written by Abu Zafar and Luna Linstrot
Starring:
Noah Perito as Moneo
Logan Schmucker as Duncan
Sean Alexander as Paul
Leo Wiggins as Leto II
Abu Zafar as Duke Leto
Kayse Schmucker as Lady Jessica
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What Dune Can Teach Us About Artificial Intelligence (Part 2)
Abu and Leo explore modern conversations about artificial intelligence through the ideas presented in Frank Herbert's Dune novels. They discuss the limitations of AI in generating new ideas, and how artificial intelligence lacks the emotional depth inherent in human artistry, raising ethical concerns about the use of artists' work without credit. Finally, they ask the all-important question: Is it time for a Butlerian Jihad?
This episode contains SPOILERS for Heretics of Dune
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(00:00) Intro
(04:16) LLMs and Other Memory
(12:08) Can AI Come Up With New Ideas?
(21:30) AI Lacks Imagination and Curiosity
(31:27) AI Can Never Create Meaningful Art
(49:35) AI Trained on Stolen Art
(01:00:45) Do We Need a Butlerian Jihad?
(01:12:03) Outro
(01:13:58) Our Ideal Dumb Phone
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Gom Jabbar is the ultimate guide to the Dune universe for both longtime fans and newcomers. Join hosts Abu and Leo as they dive deep into every aspect of Dune lore, from Frank Herbert's original novels to HBO's television show and Denis Villeneuve's blockbuster films. New episodes every other Friday.
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