Jesus the Legend

Hey everyone, welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really glad you’re here.

Today’s conversation is one I’ve been looking forward to for a while because I think this is going to be a really honest and hope-filled chat PLUS I’ve got a couple of great guests joining me!

Keith Giles who has been with us before - is a writer, speaker, and former pastor, best known for his work exploring the teachings of Jesus through a lens of grace, peace, and inclusion. After stepping away from traditional ministry, he’s focused on helping people rethink faith beyond fear-based theology and rediscover the radical love at the heart of the gospel. He’s the author of the Jesus Un series, Reading Romans Right, Sola Mysterium and a tonne of others, plus he’s a familiar voice across multiple podcasts, where he regularly engages conversations around nonviolence, and the nature of God.

Stuart Deloney is a writer, podcaster, and former pastor, best known as the voice behind Snarky Faith—a platform where satire meets spirituality. After years in ministry, he stepped away from the pulpit to explore faith using humor, storytelling, and cultural critique to challenge the excesses and assumptions of modern Christianity. He’s also a contributor to platforms like Patheos and The Quollective, co-host of The Unlearning Curve podcast—and the author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, which is full-on satire.

In this episode, we’re diving into the topic of the rapture—where this idea came from, why it’s become so widely believed, and whether it really holds up biblically. More importantly, we’re going to explore a more hope-filled and Christ-centered way of understanding the future—one that reflects the goodness of God and the heart of the gospel.

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Hey everyone, welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really glad you’re here.

Today’s conversation is one I’ve been looking forward to for a while because I think this is going to be a really honest and hope-filled chat PLUS I’ve got a couple of great guests joining me!

Keith Giles who has been with us before - is a writer, speaker, and former pastor, best known for his work exploring the teachings of Jesus through a lens of grace, peace, and inclusion. After stepping away from traditional ministry, he’s focused on helping people rethink faith beyond fear-based theology and rediscover the radical love at the heart of the gospel. He’s the author of the Jesus Un series, Reading Romans Right, Sola Mysterium and a tonne of others, plus he’s a familiar voice across multiple podcasts, where he regularly engages conversations around nonviolence, and the nature of God.

Stuart Deloney is a writer, podcaster, and former pastor, best known as the voice behind Snarky Faith—a platform where satire meets spirituality. After years in ministry, he stepped away from the pulpit to explore faith using humor, storytelling, and cultural critique to challenge the excesses and assumptions of modern Christianity. He’s also a contributor to platforms like Patheos and The Quollective, co-host of The Unlearning Curve podcast—and the author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, which is full-on satire.

In this episode, we’re diving into the topic of the rapture—where this idea came from, why it’s become so widely believed, and whether it really holds up biblically. More importantly, we’re going to explore a more hope-filled and Christ-centered way of understanding the future—one that reflects the goodness of God and the heart of the gospel.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m really excited about today’s conversation because we’ve got William Paul Young with us.

Paul was born in Alberta, Canada, and his journey has been anything but boring. He’s been to Bible school, he was a radio DJ, a lifeguard, and worked in the oil fields of northern Alberta. Over the years he’s also been a business owner and employee, working across industries like insurance, construction, contract work, and food processing.

He’s been married for decades to his wife Kim, and they’re proud parents to six kids, with two daughters-in-law, a son-in-law, and six grandkids.

Most people know him as the author of The Shack — a book that has impacted millions around the world and sparked a lot of meaningful conversation (and yes, some controversy) about the nature and goodness of God. He’s also written Cross Roads, Eve, and Lies We Believe About God, each one inviting us to wrestle honestly with who God really is.

And if you want more, he hosts The Paul Young Podcast, where those conversations keep going. There’s so much more I could say, but let’s get into it… I’m just really grateful he’s here. Please welcome William Paul Young.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m really excited about today’s conversation because we’ve got William Paul Young with us.

Paul was born in Alberta, Canada, and his journey has been anything but boring. He’s been to Bible school, he was a radio DJ, a lifeguard, and worked in the oil fields of northern Alberta. Over the years he’s also been a business owner and employee, working across industries like insurance, construction, contract work, and food processing. He’s been married for decades to his wife Kim, and they’re proud parents to six kids, with two daughters-in-law, a son-in-law, and six grandkids.

Most people know him as the author of The Shack — a book that has impacted millions around the world and sparked a lot of meaningful conversation (and yes, some controversy) about the nature and goodness of God.

He’s also written Cross Roads, Eve, and Lies We Believe About God, each one inviting us to wrestle honestly with who God really is.

And if you want more, he hosts The Paul Young Podcast, where those conversations keep going. There’s so much more I could say, but let’s get into it… I’m just really grateful he’s here. Please welcome William Paul Young.

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Hey everyone — welcome back to Jesus the Legend. As always, I’m so glad you’re here.

Today I don’t want to talk about “where I am” like I’ve arrived somewhere. I want to talk about what I’ve learned. Because maybe you’re in the middle of some of the same tensions I’ve wrestled with over the years.

For a long time, I thought you had to choose. You were either revival… or you were liturgy. You were fire… or you were form. You were Spirit… or you were structure. And I was a revival guy. No question. I thought everything else was boring and lifeless!

I love passionate worship. Long altar times. Moments when the room feels electric. Tears. Joy. Laughter. Prophetic words. I want fire. I want encounter. I want something that feels alive.

When I used to the word “mass” or “liturgy,” I’ll be honest — I translated that as: dead religion. Cold routine. Empty ritual. I assumed structure meant the Spirit wasn’t moving. 

However, over the last while I’ve learned that I was wrong.

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