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- Joe Martin founded Tickle, a platform that lets people save an ad into their phone wallet instead of buying right now. Live at MAD//Fest, he joins Rory and Elfried to ask a blunt question: why do so many companies chase the same metrics as their competitors, and end up looking exactly like them?
They trace how optimising for what's easy to measure can work against what actually makes a business succeed, from a CPG brand that got an outstanding result and refused to repeat it, to Soviet factories that paid workers by the weight of the chandeliers they built, until the ceilings gave way.
"Good numbers" and "a good business" have quietly become two different things. This episode is about telling them apart.
Timestamps
00:22 – Bottleneck's second-ever live show
01:40 – What Tickle actually does
02:21 – Why most ads arrive at exactly the wrong moment
05:12 – A brand gets a great result and says no thanks
08:03 – The AR treasure hunt that led to Tickle
15:17 – Why clients are bonused on the wrong metrics
17:28 – "We're in the trust business, not the ads business"
20:29 – Why finance can't measure a relationship
21:12 – The AO teddy bear nobody can put on a spreadsheet
26:34 – Heathrow's pods and the tyranny of the wrong metric
29:40 – The Soviet chandelier problem
32:00 – Closing out MAD//Fest
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A Sassy+ original podcast series Faris Aranki with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on IQ, EQ, FQ and why smart teams still fail
16-07-2026 | 1 u. 24 Min.Faris Aranki has spent 20 years studying why some strategies succeed and others quietly fail, working with some of the smartest, best-funded teams in the world.In this episode, he joins Rory and Elfried to explain trust, relationships, judgement and restraint. None of these show up on a spreadsheet, but are critical in the best performing teams.The conversation moves through Faris's own framework for measuring progress, and into the wider question of why organisations are so good at counting the wrong things. It's a look at what actually drives success, and why it so often goes unmeasured.Timestamps00:00 – Why smart teams still fail02:23 – The IQ, EQ, FQ framework explained04:28 – Steve Jobs and the 17 projects17:31 – War-gaming a pandemic: "can I cheat?"28:00 – The billionaire who almost bought Arsenal31:14 – What luxury really means32:13 – The watch collaboration that caused a riot37:14 – Influencers, trust and the "one-night-stand" collab41:33 – The columns missing from every spreadsheet1:01:20 – Who will be the Steve Jobs of AI?1:21:11 – The dishonesty built into procurementFollow RoryInstagram: @rorysutherland_clipsTikTok: @RorysutherlandclipsX: @rorysutherlandLinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/Follow ElfriedInstagram: @elfriedsambaLinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/Follow Faris ArankiInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/farisaranki/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farisaranki/Website: https://www.shiageto.com/A Sassy+ original podcast seriesJosh Hart with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on AI, people and the future of work
21-06-2026 | 1 u. 2 Min.Josh Hart co-founded YuLife nine years ago with a simple but radical idea: digital experiences should feel as good as the best computer games, not as painful as a tax return.
In this special live episode, recorded in front of an audience at YuLife HQ, he joins Rory and Elfried to ask the question every HR leader is quietly dreading: what does AI actually mean for your people?```
They cover the productivity gains nobody is talking about, how senior employees are quietly becoming the biggest beneficiaries, and what the AI moment could mean for the long-term sick. This is an honest, funny and wide-ranging conversation about the gap between the AI narrative and the AI reality.James Watt with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on BrewDog, gut instinct and starting again
07-06-2026 | 1 u. 12 Min.James Watt quit law after two weeks, spent seven years as a captain on a North Atlantic fishing boat, then built BrewDog from two humans and a dog into a business making a million cans of beer a day.
In this episode he joins Rory and Elfried to talk about the power of naivety, why differentiation always beats optimisation, and what it actually takes to build a challenger brand from nothing.He also opens up on what really happened at BrewDog — the private equity deal that almost worked brilliantly, and finishing a painful second in the bid to buy his own business back. And he reveals his plan for a new beer business called Second Best.Plus: why community will always beat audience, the danger of bottom-of-funnel obsession, and what his new platform SocialTip is doing to bring word-of-mouth marketing into the digital age.
Follow RoryInstagram: @rorysutherland_clipsTikTok: @RorysutherlandclipsX: @rorysutherlandLinkedIn: in/rorysutherland/Follow ElfriedInstagram: @elfriedsambaLinkedIn: in/elfriedsamba/https://www.butterflyeffect.xyz/Follow JamesInstagram: @captainjameswatt / @socialtiphq / @secondbestbeerLinkedIn: in/jameswatt-investor-entrepreneur-punk/X: @JamesBWattA Sassy+ original podcast seriesMark Tapscott and Daniel Davey with Rory Sutherland and Elfried Samba on Britain's 1st EV sportscar
29-05-2026 | 1 u.Tesla veterans Mark Tapscott and Daniel Davey are the co-founders of Longbow Motors — a British electric sports car company with a radical idea: that cars should be getting lighter, simpler and more exciting, not heavier, duller and more expensive.
They join Rory and Elfried to explain what it actually takes to build a car company from scratch in 2026. From first principles and physics to the new motor manufacturing business model, this is a conversation about great product design, the death of corporate thinking, and why the UK might be sitting on the most exciting opportunity in automotive since the internal combustion engine.
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Rory Sutherland, Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, and Elfried Samba, CEO and Co-Founder of Butterfly Effect and former Global Head of Social at Gymshark, explore the hidden blocks that slow teams down, from flawed strategies to missed cultural signals and outdated thinking. Each episode breaks down a real challenge through the lens of behavioural science, digital strategy, and lived experience. Through conversations with industry pioneers and creative thinkers, they unpack why teams fail and reveal secrets for driving progress. Joined by guests who’ve built, rebuilt, or reimagined entire industries, Rory and Elfried challenge assumptions, unpack failure, and explore what moves the needle. Powered by Sassy+ www.sassyplus.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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