As we get to the mid-point of 2025, let’s take a look at where the cloud is - what’s doing well, what’s going through some changes, and what might be in store for the rest of 2025. SHOW: 938SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #938 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW SPONSORS:[FCTR] Try FCTR.io (that's F-C-T-R dot io) free for 60 days. Modern security demands modern solutions. Check out Fctr's Tako AI, the first AI agent for Okta, on their website[VASION] Vasion Print eliminates the need for print servers by enabling secure, cloud-based printing from any device, anywhere. Get a custom demo to see the difference for yourself.SHOW NOTES:Digital Sovereignty concerns, investments and new laws outside the US Growth of regional clouds? Uncertainty in Azure, AWS - employee layoffs, review cycles, focus on non-AI projects/featuresEast Meets West 2025 (keynote presentation) - See slide 27 (GPU share vs Cloud revenue share)Revenues: AWS ($116B run rate); Azure ($107.2B), GCP ($49B), Oracle Cloud ($12B IaaS, $16.8B SaaS), CoreWeave ($1B, since 2022) – OpenAI ($12-13B in 2025)NVIDIA ($130B)Massive Data Center build outs - Stargate ($500B), Meta ($60-65B), Grok/X ($10B)AWS ($100B), Azure ($80B), Saudi Arabia (up to $100B)FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodBlueSky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod
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AI & Cloud Trends for June 2025
Brian Gracely (@bgracely) and Brandon Whichard (@bwhichard, @SoftwareDefTalk) discuss the top stories in Cloud and AI from June 2025.SHOW: 937SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #937 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET NEW TO CLOUD? CHECK OUT OUR OTHER PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SPONSORS:[VASION] Vasion Print eliminates the need for print servers by enabling secure, cloud-based printing from any device, anywhere. Get a custom demo to see the difference for yourself.[FCTR] Try FCTR.io (that's F-C-T-R dot io) free for 60 days. Modern security demands modern solutions. Check out Fctr's Tako AI, the first AI agent for Okta, on their websiteSHOW NOTES:Link to June 2025 News and ArticlesFEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netBluesky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod
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AI-Native Applications vs. AI Add-On Applications
As AI evolves into the Enterprise, will we see greater uptake of AI-native applications or AI add-on applications? Briandon Whichard (@bwhichard) and Cote (@cote) from Software Defined Talk explore the pros and cons. SHOW: 936SHOW VIDEO: Watch the YouTube Live Recording of SDT Episode 525CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW SPONSORS:[US CLOUD] Cut Enterprise IT Support Costs by 30-50% with US Cloud[VASION] Vasion Print eliminates the need for print servers by enabling secure, cloud-based printing from any device, anywhere. Get a custom demo to see the difference for yourself.SHOW NOTES:This week, we try a shorter format inspired by the Dithering podcast. The conversation digs into the difference between apps built with AI from the ground up and those with AI bolted on after the fact.Watch the YouTube Live Recording of SDT Episode 525RUNDOWNFormat inspired by DitheringAn Interview with Cursor Co-Founder and CEO Michael TruellFEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodBlueSky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod
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Trustworthy AI Agents
Tanmai Gopal (@tanmaigo, CEO/Founder @HasuraQL) discusses the importance of reliability and trustworthiness for both generative and agentic AI. We discuss the pitfalls in existing data pipelines and how to enhance the results.SHOW: 935SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #935 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwNEW TO CLOUD? CHECK OUT OUR OTHER PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS" SPONSORS:[VASION] Vasion Print eliminates the need for print servers by enabling secure, cloud-based printing from any device, anywhere. Get a custom demo to see the difference for yourself.[US CLOUD] Cut Enterprise IT Support Costs by 30-50% with US CloudSHOW NOTES:Hasura websiteHasura GitHubTopic 1 - Welcome to the show, Tanmai. Give everyone a quick introduction.Topic 2 - Our topic today is Reliable and Trustworthy AI Agents. First off, what’s the problem we’re solving for here (define reliability and trustworthiness)? Are we solving for hallucinations? Reliability? Connecting private and Enterprise data to models with fine-tuning or RAG?Topic 3 - How is reliability or trustworthiness measured? I would imagine this isn’t black and white, but maybe a bit more subjective?Topic 4 - How do Agentic and GenAI differ, if at all, with this model? I would think that since Gen AI lends itself more to the creative side and Agent AI is very deterministic, the approaches to solving the problem might be different. Thoughts?Topic 5 - Let’s talk about data pipelines. Today, many organizations take an off-the-shelf frontier or foundational model and then apply a RAG pipeline to it for customization. Sometimes fine-tuning is involved, but in my experience, this is the exception rather than the rule. What is wrong with that architecture today? How is this less reliable?Topic 6 - Let’s talk about Hasura and PromptQL. As I understand it, you are decoupling query planning from execution, thereby creating a more deterministic AI workflow. Now… that’s a mouthful. Can you break down what this means and explain how the architecture differs?FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netBluesky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod
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The Rapid Change of Cloud Dynamics
Are the dynamics of the hyperscale cloud providers changing? Will the leaders of the last decade continue for the next 3-5 years, or the next decade? Let’s explore how the market is now rapidly changing.SHOW: 934SHOW TRANSCRIPT: The Cloudcast #934 TranscriptSHOW VIDEO: https://youtube.com/@TheCloudcastNET CLOUD NEWS OF THE WEEK: http://bit.ly/cloudcast-cnotwCHECK OUT OUR NEW PODCAST: "CLOUDCAST BASICS"SHOW SPONSORS:[US CLOUD] Cut Enterprise IT Support Costs by 30-50% with US Cloud[VASION] Vasion Print eliminates the need for print servers by enabling secure, cloud-based printing from any device, anywhere. Get a custom demo to see the difference for yourself.SHOW NOTES:Andy Jassy (Amazon CEO) - Thoughts on Generative AI AWS quarterly revenue growth OpenAI struggling to meet deadline for $20B investment (including Microsoft)Inside Microsoft’s complex relationship with OpenAIGoogle Cloud quarterly revenuesBG2 PodcastEast Meets West 2025 (keynote presentation)TECHNOLOGY WAVES CHANGE MARKET DYNAMICS; INCUMBENTS DON’T ALWAYS LEADRevenues: AWS ($62B, 2021), Azure ($60B, 2021), GCP ($19B, 2021) Revenues (run rate): AWS ($130B, 2025), Azure ($108B, 2025), GCP ($50B, 2025) AWS is on 3rd CEO since pandemic; market questioning their AI strategyAzure + OpenAI alignment strategy went from strategic to questionedGoogle start-stop AI strategy, but coming together; but company breakup loomingApple AI strategy seems completely unknown (Siri,Apple Intelligence, devices, models?)Oracle seems to be rebounding around Oracle Cloud InfrastructureNew hypercloud AI providers emerging? The Amazon/AWS 20%FEEDBACK?Email: show at the cloudcast dot netTwitter/X: @cloudcastpodBlueSky: @cloudcastpod.bsky.socialInstagram: @cloudcastpodTikTok: @cloudcastpod
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