When Shift Happens Podcast

Raoul Pal believes we have roughly four years to build wealth before AI fundamentally changes how the economy works. 
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PARTNERS
⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/
🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/
💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT
🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.
 Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h
🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/
⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/
♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com
🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto
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DISCLAIMER
The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.

0:00 - Intro
03:31 - The BANANA ZONE that never happened
04:07 - How To Allocate Better In Crypto
04:52 - How Compounding Actually Works
09:25 - Early vs Wrong: How To Tell
12:54 - The Belief Raoul Totally Reversed
19:01 - Sponsor: Variational, Bitwise
22:12 - The Belief Raoul Wishes Was Wrong
29:46 - How Long Does This Bull Run Last?
34:23 - The Next Obvious Crypto Narrative
36:50 - Is Bitcoin Still Primarily Money?
40:19 - Are We Underestimating AI’s Speed?
50:53 - Sponsor: Kast
51:41 - Will Crypto Ever Be Exciting Again?
59:49 - Is Success Being Smart Or Pain Tolerance?
1:03:27 - KR1: A Raoul Crypto Bet That didn't work
1:11:02 - When will The SUI Thesis Pay Off?
1:13:20 - What Brought Raoul Back To ETH
1:20:24 - Is Zcash A Trade Or A ZODL?
1:21:44 - How Big Can ZEC Get?
1:22:53 - Sponsor: Jupiter, Ethena
1:25:16 - What Is Money For?
1:26:45 - Optimizing For More Than Wealth
1:29:35 - The Most Asked Question To His Palvatar
1:33:31 - The Secret to Raoul's Great Looks
1:35:03 - Looksmaxxing: How Deep Is Raoul In?
1:37:46 - Was Telling Everyone About SUI a Wise Idea?
1:42:53 - Was the 70% SUI Position Sizing Wrong?
1:44:13 - Does Raoul Still Believe In Hold And Do Nothing?
1:44:48 - The One Major Shift Left To Witness
1:48:46 - How Good Is AI Today?

Changpeng Zhao (CZ), founder of Binance, sits down with Kevin live on stage at Bitcoin Asia 2026 in Hong Kong and explains why right now is the best point in history to build wealth in crypto. 
He breaks down why $1 million Bitcoin is coming faster than anyone expects, why Bitcoin will overtake gold in the next bull run, the exact crypto allocation he tells governments to hold, and what the biggest AI companies are telling him about launching their own tokens. Where the next decade of crypto is going, from the man who built the biggest exchange in the world.
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💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter
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PARTNERS
🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/
💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT
🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.
 Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=102...
🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/
⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/
💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure.
 https://sui.io/
♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. 
https://www.coinsilium.com
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DISCLAIMER
The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.
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0:00 Intro
0:37 Do We Need 25 Years For Bitcoin To Hit $1M
1:36 What’s Needed For This Century To Be Bitcoin Century
3:26 How Tokenization Links To Bitcoin’s Success
5:08 Will Bitcoin Weaken Or Strengthen Governments
8:47 Are Governments Serious About Bitcoin Today
11:14 What Most Governments Aren’t Doing With Bitcoin
12:56 Which Countries Are Doing The Best With Bitcoin
15:36 Will Bitcoin Become More Valuable Than Gold
16:33 Could We Be Wrong About Bitcoin Being Better Than Gold
17:17 How Much Should Countries Go In On Bitcoin
20:37 What’s Driving The Next Bitcoin Cycle
21:49 How AI Agents Will Trade Crypto
25:21 Stablecoins vs Bitcoin’s Future
26:54 What Will CZ Contribute To The Bitcoin Century

Jordi Alexander, founder and CEO of crypto trading firm Selini Capital, explains why retirement is a 20th century dream and why no amount of money will ever be "enough" in a world being rebuilt by AI. 

He also shares the skill AI can't replace, where he sees Bitcoin and Zcash heading next, and why health, not wealth, will be the biggest divide of the next 20 years.
THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER
💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter
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PARTNERS
⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/
🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/
💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT
🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence.
 Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h
🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/
⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/
♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com
🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto
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DISCLAIMER
The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.
00:00 Intro
03:23 How Do You Not Break The Streak?
05:56 Who Are You?
09:24 When Did You Know You'd Made It?
12:15 How Do You Get Into The Inner Circle?
14:23 Are Billionaires Actually Special?
18:55 Early Or Just Wrong On AGI?
24:00 Sponsor: Variational, Bitwise
24:57 How Do You Not Go Crazy?
29:10 When Did Your Intuition Cost You?
31:30 The Skill AI Can't Replace
41:25 Are Book Smarts Dead?
43:03 When To Stop Grinding And Recharge
47:17 How Do You Protect Your Peace Of Mind?
51:03 Is "No Retirement" Bad Advice For Normal People?
54:45 Sponsor: Kast
1:01:13 Are Health Shortcuts Worth It?
1:06:52 Has Your Hourly Rate Changed? 50K For A Coffee
1:09:41 Where Is The Puck Going?
1:16:07 Which Platforms Win?
1:20:18 Is Qiao Wang Serious About Zcash?
1:23:19 Where Could Zcash Be In 2 Years?
1:24:50 What's In Your Macro Portfolio?
1:25:50 Why Nobody Teaches Allocation
1:29:08 Sponsor: Jupiter, Ethena
1:29:48 How Wealth Turns Into Unhappiness
1:34:56 When Does More Money Stop Mattering?
1:36:07 Why Spend Millions To Impress Strangers?
1:40:37 At 90, What Would Make Your Money Worth It?
1:42:47 Health Inequality Vs Wealth Inequality
1:44:10 What To Do When You're Spiraling
1:49:16 Can Normal People Access Psychedelic Therapy?
1:51:15 The One Thing To Remember
1:53:01 Thank You Jordi

Changpeng Zhao (CZ), founder of Binance, opens up on why he's always bullish on Twitter, how a single tweet lined up with Bitcoin's 20% pump right before Trump's crypto speech, and why he believes crypto is still nowhere near saturated with less than 1% global penetration. 

He also gets candid about growing up a second-generation immigrant in Canada, surviving the FTX collapse and a Binance hack, and his contrarian take on why the traditional education system is broken.

THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER
💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter
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PARTNERS
⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on stocks, commodities, and more digital assets: https://www.variational.io/
🚀 Jupiter is a leading platform for digital asset trading and the largest of its kind on Solana: https://jup.ag/
💳 KAST lets you manage and spend digital dollars with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT
🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ digital asset investment products - ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/
⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar system built on Ethereum's network, offering a digitally-native, non-bank-dependent price-stable digital currency called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/
♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com
🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated exchange for trading on the outcomes of real-world events: ⁠https://kalshi.com/⁠
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DISCLAIMER
The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.
#CryptoNews, #JupiterDEX, #SolanaEcosystem, #DeFiInsights, #DEXAggregator, #CryptoTrading, #Web4, #BlockchainFuture, #TokenEconomics, #CryptoCommunity, #DeFiGrowth, #CryptoAdoption, #FintechRevolution, #CryptoMistakes, #FoundersStory, #CryptoBuilders, #DeFiRevenue, #CryptoVolume, #CryptoCulture, #Web3ToWeb4, #CryptoInnovation, #SolanaDEX, #CryptoProduct, #BlockchainStrategy
0:00 Introduction
2:01 Life on the Road
3:33 Who Are You?
4:07 Becoming a Top-20 Billionaire
5:14 Growing Up Poor in Canada
6:45 His Sister's Career
7:35 Avoiding "Third Gen Degenerate"
8:07 Binance's First Day
10:05 Sponsor: Variational & Bitwise
10:58 The Early Team
12:32 What Hardworking Means
13:35 Misconceptions About Binance
14:24 Why Listed Projects Disappoint
16:54 Can Retail Ever Win?
18:58 Origin of the "4" Meme
20:55 Tweeting "4" and Meaning It
21:29 The FTX Tweet, Full Story
25:13 Hardest Period of His Life
26:05 Prison, Not Knowing When
27:48 Did Anyone Disappear?
28:31 Sponsor: Kast
29:18 The Pardon Process
32:20 Pardon: Politics or Justice?
34:32 Advice for Elon
35:44 Bybit Hack: Was Ben Right?
36:42 2019 Hack and the Red Button
41:18 Hyperliquid as a Threat?
45:07 Why Hype Isn't on Binance
46:31 The 10/10 Crash Villain
50:47 Tweeting "4" on the Crash?
51:31 Sponsor: Jupiter & Ethena
52:14 His Crypto Legacy
53:56 Giggle Academy
1:00:56 Can CZ Move the Market?
1:03:30 Outro

Lucas Schuermann is the founder and CEO of Variational, a peer-to-peer derivatives protocol built on Arbitrum. Former Genesis executive, former quant, and someone who went to Columbia at 12 and started a hedge fund at 20.
Today we get into why variational charges zero trading fees, how it's aggregating liquidity from traditional finance to list hundreds of assets on chain, why perps have a funding rate problem most traders don't understand until it costs them, and what happens to old-school brokers once this liquidity actually moves.
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THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER
💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/
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PARTNERS
⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 
🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 
💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 
🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ 
⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ 
♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 
🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto
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DISCLAIMER
The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.
Timestamps 
0:00 Intro
2:20 Merch, Travel & Being Back in Singapore
5:13 Who Is Lucas Sherman?
5:24 How Lucas Thinks About Building Trust
6:03 Starting College at Age 12
8:26 How Do You Actually Skip That Many Grades?
9:45 Making Friends Six Years Younger Than Everyone Else
10:40 Are You Still a "Weirdo" at 30?
11:40 Starting a Hedge Fund at 20 - "Hubris of the Young"
14:09 From Paper-Reading Group to a Real Fund
16:50 Acquired by Digital Currency Group at 21
18:59 Why Sell the Fund to DCG?
19:54 Sponsors: Variational & Bitwise
20:47 Did You Regret Selling That Early?
21:51 The Money DCG Made Off Their Work
22:38 Starting a Market Making Firm
24:46 Explain Variational Protocol to Your Mom
26:49 Biggest Mistake Building Variational
28:13 The "Holy Sh*t, We Built Something Massive" Moment
29:54 Reason #1: Zero Fees
32:59 How Do You Trust the Price With Only One Market Maker?
34:33 Are Trading Fees a Scam?
35:29 How Much Do Fees Actually Cost Traders?
36:33 Reason #2: Asset Selection & What "Liquidity" Really Means
40:20 Why Hasn't Crypto Solved This Already?
42:39 Where On-Chain Order Books Break at Scale
46:04 Sponsor: KAST
1:07:30 Sponsor: Jupiterexchange & Ethena