Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose
🗣️ New ATP Members’ Special: ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One 🗣️
An aside about outerwear
🗣️ The ATP Holiday Store is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️
T568A & T568B
Idea courtesy Adam Brandon
Follow-up:
Recognition corner
Casey begs for help
Callsheet List bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉
However, Menu(::primaryAction:) is broken (FB20755661)
Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications
The M5 does have Memory Integrity Enforcement
The M5 MacBook pro without a charger is actually cheaper in most regions
EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via Nick Heer)
UK is the same though
The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz)
New chat
Mira Murati’s company piece discussing non-determinism
The M5 Vision Pro
Dual Knit Band
HDCP
Television
Theater
New Developer Strap (behind Apple Developer paywall)
MacRumors coverage
Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug
AVIF
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Previous offerings
Apple’s bespoke F1 camera
Wired’s coverage
Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro
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2:02:52
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2:02:52
661: Intimate and Regimented
Follow-up:
Languages in Scotland
ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler)
Slide Over fade animation (via Daniel Luz)
Marco’s iPhone case survey: Ryan London bare bottom (via Oliver Thomas)
/u/LaughingMan11 is Benson Leung (via Deta & Daniel Luz)
ZFS and the Drobo dream (via Joe)
AnyRAID for ZFS Explained for Dummies
Hexos announcement
An aside for an argument
Apple M5
M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC
Ming-Chi Kuo
Chip on Wafter on Surface
Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package
M5 MacBook Pro
MacRumors on the [lack of] power adapter
Numerama
M5 iPad Pro
M5 Vision Pro
The Verge compares refresh rates
Sorry, no trade-ins
Logitech Muse spatial stylus
Apple TV+ is now Apple TV
F1: The Movie announcement post
Eddie Cue on The Town podcast
New icon
Post-show: iPhone setup, take two
Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete
Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way
Members-only ATP Overtime: Alexa Plus in the real world
Jennifer Patterson Tuohy
“Temperature” on LLMs
Nilay’s take
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1:49:10
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1:49:10
660: It’s All Chicken Salad
Pre-show: Marco’s “Vacation” results
Goose
Goose @ Richmond Allianz Ampitheater, 3 October 2025
Allianz Ampitheater
Chicken Salad Chick
Nugs.net
ZZQ
Suggestions from Casey, in no particular order:
Hungersite
Give it Time
How it Ends
Dripfield
Follow-up:
ATP in the wild
Original report form Richard Earney
Follow-up by Matt Smith
Follow-up on Mark Christian’s report by Santiago Hervella
AirPods 3
Ear Lottery
Michael corroborates Marco’s experience
…but Franklin Delano Stallone offers hope
…and sometimes AirPods 3 are a marked improvement, reports Matthew Schaffer
Tony Dehnke does an ANC comparison
Live translation results
David Schaub’s horror story about filling up your phone
Mike Taffet does science on iPhone ↔ iPhone transfers
Marco’s USB odyssey
Jack Wellborn had a similar experience
Syd Polk wonders if it’s a Sequoia thing
(Among others) Fabien theorizes its’ an alignment thing
Keith Heaton brought receipts
Tailgate Tub
Active vs. passive Thunderbolt cables
OWC
Informative Reddit comment by LaughingMan11
Synology alternatives
Colin McKellar suggests QNAP
See also:
UGREEN
Unraid
FreeNAS/TrueNAS
…
🎉 …may not be necessary anymore! 🎉
Coverage from Guru3D
SpaceRex on YouTube
Lee Hutchinson at Ars Technica
More more first impressions
Quick AirPods Pro 3 update
iPhone case updates
Omar Shahine performs surgery on the Nomad back
Torras clear case
Bullstrap open-bottom leather case
Peak Design Everyday Case (Charcoal color has the good fabric)
Still to test: Süti PhoneBack in black leather, if it ever ships
iOS 16
iPadOS 26: Now with slide-over!
Apple pulls ICEBlock from the App Store
Previously, in Hong Kong
Tim’s explanation
Response letter
Reuters’ take
MJ Tsai
Gurman on Apple succession
Post-show: Pour one a Sprite out for a real one TiVo
Channels
AOL dialup service ends
Members-only ATP Overtime: The Meta Ray-Ban Display, and Apple’s response
The Verge
Gurman: Apple pivots
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2:14:09
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2:14:09
659: Lose the Ear Lottery
Pre-show: Eh, that’ll keep…
M5 iPad Pro
FCC leaks
🗣️ St. Jude time is almost done! 🗣️
Supporting Action for Emergency Response
Lebanon case study
Global crisis repsonse blueprint
🗣️ New ATP Member’s Special: ATP Dev: Computer Science Curriculum
Follow-up:
ATP in the wild (via Mark Christian & Richard Earney)
iOS 26.0.1 allegedly fixes N1 Wi-Fi/BT issues
CarlinKit wireless CarPlay dongle
What does iCloud back up? (via Dayton Lovell)
iCloud for Messages
A ringing endorsement from Nick
A potential fix for ∞ GIFs (via Nathan)
iPhone Transfers
Why not pre-populate them, Kindle-style? (via Winnie Lewis)
TestFlight is… better now? (via Daniel Nelson)
Some thoughts from Nick
Apple’s onboarding enshittification (via Imthaz)
Thought to text & AlterEgo
Firefox (1982)
Prior MIT project (via Hannes)
CJ’s thoughts
Preview video
EMG
EEG
More first impressions
TechWoven cases
Tina’s Bullstrap case
Bullstrap wallet
Stephen Robles leather iPhone case review
Nomad Magnetic leather back
Marco’s video of the flaw
iPhone 17
AirPods Pro 3
Erin’s Audio Corner
The Headphone Show
The Harman Curve
Ask ATP:
How do we really know if something is encrypted? (via Joshua Wold)
What is the point of neural engine cores, anyway? (via Tom Cole)
SIMD
Evaluating the Apple Silicon M-Series SoCs for HPC Performance & Efficiency
AMX Units
Neural Engine
Does filling a phone SSD slaughter performance? (via Sean Harding)
Post-show: Marco’s USB odyssey
CalDigit Thunderbolt Element 4
BLE caberQu
Members-only ATP Overtime: NAS Noodling
Synology [sorta] says third-party drives will be supported in the future
Synology Solution Day 2025 teaser video
Ubiquiti’s new NAS units
UNAS 2
UNAS 4
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2:14:07
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2:14:07
658: Your First Mistake Phone
Marco’s AppleCare “Express” Replacement
🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️
The Marco Offset
Podcastathon 2025
Follow-up:
Auburn’s colors are UVA’s colors (via Tony Scida)
You don’t need the trick new Apple charger to charge an iPhone 17 at full speed
iPhone Air
Why people are buying the iPhone Air / 15” MacBook Air
Bending the iPhone Air
Apple (via Tom’s Guide)
Direct video link
JerryRigEverything (timestamp link to 6m35s)
Same video, different timestamp (7m37s)
Battery life
Mr. Whose the Boss
The Tech Chap
Tom’s Guide
Speaker (via Steve Troughton-Smith)
Thermals
MaxTech
iFixIt Teardown
Thickness
Visual comparison of thickness (via Ludwig Schubert)
Thin iPhone future? (via Ian)
iPhone 17 Pro
Teardowns
REWA Technology
All the screws
17 vs. 16
17 Pro internals
Vapor chamber
Logic boards
Vapor chambers explained
Max Tech
Scratches on the back?
More images from MacRumors
And from Watson
JerryRigEverything
iPhone sales
The Information (MacRumors summary)
iPhone setup advice
Casey’s tale of woe (see also Upgrade #582: First Chance to Make One Impression)
First impressions: iPhone 17 Pro
Scratchability
Telephoto camera
iPhone 16 Pro 5× vs. iPhone 17 Pro 8×
Post-show:
HP M553
HP M554
Members-only ATP Overtime: Anthropic’s $1.5B book piracy settlement
The Verge: Settlement announced, 5 September
Previously, on ATP #656: Anthropic asked for $1.5B/yr from Apple
The Verge: Settlement paused, 9 September
Ars Technica, 9 September
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