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  • AI isn't for cutting costs, it's for multiplying impact | Super.com's Matt Culver
    Is your company using AI to trim your budget, or to multiply your team's impact? We're joined by Matt Culver, a senior engineering leader at Super.com, to discuss why the common view of AI as a tool for cost-cutting is a misguided "accounting mindset" that ultimately destroys trust. He argues that leaders should instead see efficiency gains from AI as a powerful opportunity to reinvest in their teams. This conversation reframes the AI debate by urging leaders to look beyond the coding loop to improve the entire product development lifecycle—from ideation to delivery.Matt explains that the key to successful AI adoption is aligning new initiatives with the developer's core incentives: removing friction and enabling the creative flow state that makes their job enjoyable. He provides a human-centric approach for channeling AI's power to solve upstream problems in product planning and market research, rather than just generating more code. Learn how to use AI not as a means to an end, but as a way to empower your developers, generate more value, and build a high-trust engineering culture.Bring AI into your code review process with LinearBFollow the hosts:Follow BenFollow AndrewFollow today's guest(s):Learn more about Super: Super.comConnect with Matt: LinkedIn | [email protected] in today's show:A small number of samples can poison LLMs of any sizeRevisiting "Intelligence Drift"AI profiteering is now indistinguishable from trolling The AI water issue is fakeHTML’s Best Kept Secret: The <output> Tag Life in a World of Pervasive Immorality: The Ethics of Being AliveSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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  • The timelessness of vector databases | Pinecone’s Ram Sriharsha
    With massive context windows and new agent frameworks, do vector databases still matter? Ram Sriharsha, CTO at Pinecone, joins the conversation to make the definitive case that they're more critical than ever. He explains that at the core of all AI is search, and externalizing this function is non-negotiable for security, auditability, and control.Ram offers a clear starting path for engineering leaders: begin with simple Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) applications, but immediately implement a robust evaluation framework to manage hallucinations and ensure quality. He shares his perspective on the skills that matter most now, arguing that curiosity and the rise of the generalist engineer are critical in an AI-powered world. This episode is a guide to building the AI stack from the ground up, from using AI as a "good junior engineer" for testing to cultivating the engineering mindset of tomorrow.Bring AI into your code review process with LinearBFollow the hosts:Follow BenFollow AndrewFollow today's guest(s):Learn more about Pinecone: pinecone.ioPinecone Tutorials & Blog: Explore guides on RAG, vector databases, and moreConnect with Ram Sriharsha: LinkedInReferenced in today's show:Your New 500K AI Coworkers Just ArrivedHow I influence tech company politics as a staff software engineerCoinbase says 40% of code written by AI, mostly tests and TypescriptCelebrating 1 Trillion Web Pages ArchivedSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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  • Is Agentforce the future of enterprise vibe coding? | Salesforce’s Dan Fernandez
    Vibe coding is a developer's dream, but in the enterprise, it can be a nightmare of risk and shadow IT. So how do you saddle the 'wild horse' of modern AI development? Dan Fernandez, VP of Product Management, Developer Services at Salesforce, joins the conversation to share the answer: a new category his team is pioneering called Enterprise Vibe Coding. This discussion reveals how to move beyond flashy greenfield AI demos and build for the reality of most enterprises, where the goal is to safely reuse existing systems, not reinvent them from scratch.Dan breaks down the specific guardrails Salesforce has built, from sandboxed environments for safe testing to automated "quality gates" that act as a bouncer for both human and AI-generated code. He shares the powerful lesson that building customer trust through policies like zero data retention is more important than any single feature. He explains why the real work of enterprise AI is more like secure "plumbing"—connecting the hardened systems you already have. This is an essential guide for any leader looking to apply the speed of AI to the complex reality of enterprise software.Get the guide: AI productivity guide for engineering leadersFollow the hosts:Follow BenFollow AndrewFollow today's guest(s):Unleash Your Innovation with Agentforce Vibes: Vibe Coding for the EnterpriseLearn more about Salesforce for Developers: developer.salesforce.comSalesforce Extensions for VS Code: VS Code MarketplaceSalesforce Code Builder: Learn more about the zero-install IDEConnect with Dan Fernandez: LinkedInReferenced in today's show:Future of tech leadership survey report 2025 - Riviera PartnersStop Avoiding Politics – Terrible Software Agentic Commerce I built ChatGPT with Minecraft redstone!Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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  • Building the internet’s next infrastructure layer | Cloudflare's Brendan Irvine-Broque
    The Model Context Protocol (MCP) is evolving beyond local developer experiments and into the secure, remote infrastructure that will power the next generation of the internet. Brendan Irvine-Broque, Director of Product at Cloudflare, joins us to share a roadmap for this future. He explains how Cloudflare's "customer zero" philosophy of dogfooding their own tools provides a unique perspective on what it takes to scale MCP for production.Brendan makes the case for observability as the ideal starting point for enterprises and lays out the vision for MCP's ultimate destination: a universal protocol for agent-to-agent communication. The conversation explores how remote servers can create a decentralized layer for security and user memory, and what the exciting development of MCP UI means for the future of chat-based applications. This is an essential look at the next wave of agentic systems and the infrastructure required to build it.Check out:Watch Closing the AI gap: Surpassing executive expectations for AI productivityFollow the hosts:Follow BenFollow AndrewFollow today's guest(s):Learn more about Cloudflare's work with AI: agents.cloudflare.comRead the latest from Cloudflare: The Cloudflare BlogCloudflare's Unique Primitives Mentioned: Durable ObjectsThe MCP UI Project: MCP UI on GitHub (Project by Ido Salomon)Observability Tools Mentioned: Datadog | HoneycombAI Tools Mentioned: Block/Square's "Goose" | CursorConnect with Brendan Irvine-Broque: X @irvinebroque | LinkedInReferenced in today's show:AI Has Won: Google’s DORA Study Shows Universal Dev AdoptionThe Theatre of Pull Requests and Code ReviewAI isn't replacing radiologistsIs it time to look for a new job? And how do I start?Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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  • Making tech literacy irrelevant | Infactory’s Ken Kocienda
    What do you learn after spending 15 years at Apple and demoing your work directly to Steve Jobs? Ken Kocienda, Co-founder of Infactory AI and author of Creative Selection, joins us to share the answer. As a former Principal Engineer at Apple who helped create the iPhone keyboard and autocorrect, Ken discusses his incredible journey from a history major to a key figure in building technology used by billions. He explains his core philosophy of bridging the gap between the liberal arts and technology to create meaningful products, and why he believes AI is the next frontier for this mission. (BTW – we sat down with his co-founder Brooke, so if you like this episode be sure to check that one out!)The conversation dives into his disciplined, spec-driven approach to coding with AI and the power of "extractive AI" to unlock hidden value in data. Ken reveals the crucial lesson he learned from Steve Jobs—that "everything is provisional"—and how his "evolutionary design" process is perfectly suited for today's AI challenges. This episode is a deep dive into the timeless principles of design and a powerful argument for why the best technology is so intuitive, it makes technical literacy irrelevant.Check out:Register now: AI productivity guide for engineering leadersFollow the hosts:Follow BenFollow AndrewFollow today's guest(s):Learn more about Infactory AI: infactory.aiConnect with Ken on LinkedInKen's Book: Creative Selection: Inside Apple's Design Process During the Golden Age of Steve JobsReferenced in today's show:MCP is probably the first protocol in tech history with more builders than users… or at least that’s how it feels.Albania appoints world’s first AI-made ministerSupport the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever
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