The afikra Podcast

As the daughter of the renowned intellectual Edward Said, Najla Said discusses the unique pressures of navigating her family's legacy while forging her own creative voice in the shadow of his immense influence. The conversation explores her journey from attempting to assimilate into American culture as a youth to confronting her heritage during a pivotal trip to Palestine and Lebanon. Said details her entry into professional theater and the development of her acclaimed one-woman show, Palestine, which grew from an intimate journal entry. She also offers a personal perspective on her father's moral backbone, the impact of recent global events on her sense of safety in New York, and the evolution of her activism through new collaborative theater projects. The discussion touches on the enduring intimacy of her memoir, Looking for Palestine, and how sharing her inner monologue has helped her find a community based on genuine solidarity.

 

 0:00 Introduction

1:37 Childhood Stories and Typewritten Plays 

2:54 Growing Up in the Shadow of Intellectual Giants 

7:23 The Weight of Family Legacy 

10:00 Journaling and the Discovery of a Personal Voice 

12:47 Acting, Identity, and Hollywood Reality Checks 

20:36 Defining "Arab" through Theater 

22:10 Navigating Identity Shifts: Lebanon, Palestine, and New York 

33:32 Misunderstandings and the Moral Backbone of Edward Said 

36:58 Current Work: Dialogue in a Time of Hostility 

44:30 Erasing Legacy: Columbia University and Global Activism 

47:40 Politics and Perception 

52:14 Looking for Palestine: The Vulnerability of Memoir 

56:56 Shedding the Need to Be Liked 

58:07 Solidarity as the Greatest Expression of Love 

Najla Said is a Palestinian-Lebanese-American actress, playwright, author, and activist, recognized for her memoir Looking for Palestine: Growing Up Confused in an Arab-American Family (2013), which chronicles her struggles with cultural identity amid a privileged New York City upbringing as the daughter of prominent Palestinian intellectual Edward W. Said and his Lebanese-born wife Mariam Cortas Said. Said initially distanced herself from her Arab heritage, assimilating into American and Jewish social circles while attending elite institutions like Dalton School and Princeton University, before a transformative trip to the Middle East prompted her to embrace Palestinian roots more fully. Said's career spans theater and performance, including her solo show Palestine, which she has presented at over 25 high schools, colleges, and universities worldwide since its off-Broadway debut, addressing themes of diaspora, stereotyping, and Arab-American experiences. She has worked with New York institutions such as New York Theatre Workshop, The Public Theater, and Second Stage, and maintains affiliations like a "Usual Suspect" at NYTW. As an activist, Said advocates for Palestinian self-determination, drawing on her father's legacy of critiquing Western orientalism, though her public engagements, including support for campus protests, reflect a personal evolution from identity confusion to vocal solidarity with causes tied to her heritage. 

Connect with Najla Said 👉 https://instagram.com/kittybubble 

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ABOUT AFIKRA
afikra | عفكرة is a movement to convert passive interest in the Arab world to active intellectual curiosity. We aim to collectively reframe the dominant narrative of the region by exploring the histories and cultures of the region – past, present and future – through conversations driven by curiosity.
📍 Local events in 40+ locations worldwide http://afikra.com/chapters
🎧 New podcasts + videos weekly http://afikra.com/podcasts
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We explore the interconnected artistic and political lives of figures from the Maghreb and the Black diaspora who collaborated in North Africa from the mid-1950s to the late 1970s, forming what our guest calls the Maghreb Generation, and cover the iconic 1969 Pan-African Festival of Algiers, where cultural figures like Nina Simone and political groups like the Black Panthers were present. Assistant Professor of History at Cornell University and author of "Maghreb Noir: The Militant Artist of North Africa and the Struggle for a Pan-African Postcolonial Future," Dr. Paraska Tolan-Szkilnik discusses her work which re-centers artists and intellectuals from Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia as key political actors in the mid-20th-century anti-colonial and pan-African movements. Dr. Tolan-Szkilnik explains how these militant artists (deeply influenced by thinkers like Frantz Fanon) championed a philosophy of continued, revolutionary decolonization beyond flag independence. The episode details the political and personal risks these activists faced, including imprisonment for figures like Moroccan poet Abdellatif Laâbi and the assassination of Algerian poet Jean Sénac. Finally, the conversation explores film as a revolutionary form of culture for the highly illiterate populace and the enduring legacy of this generation’s radical vision for South-South solidarity.

 

0:53 Introduction

1:37 The Path to Pan-Africanism and the Maghreb

5:51 The Pan-African Festival of Algiers (1969)

7:23 The Substance of Revolution: Beyond the Speeches

10:00 The African Union, Liberation Movements, and Algiers

12:47 Questions of Race and Algerian Reactions to Blackness

14:19 North Africa as One Entity and French Colonial Borders

16:40 Central Figures of the Maghreb Generation

23:34 Defining the "Militant Artist"

25:15 The Philosophical DNA: Continued Decolonization

26:38 Frantz Fanon as Intellectual Forefather

27:44 The Autocratic Grind: Exile, Jail, and Death

34:54 The Moroccan Poet Abdellatif Laâbi and Souffles

40:09 Film as Revolutionary Culture

45:48 Turning Away from the West

49:00 The Striking Life of Jean Sénac

53:11 Poetry of Enthusiasm and Disillusionment

 

Paraska Tolan-Szkilnik is a historian of 20th century Africa and the Middle East. She specializes in questions of race, gender, and sex in the post-colonial Maghreb. She has published in Jadaliyya, the Arab Studies Journal, World Art, Monde(s), The Markaz Review, and the International Journal of Middle East Studies, amongst others. Her first book "Maghreb Noir: The Militant-Artists of North Africa and the Struggle for a Pan-African, Post-colonial Future" (Stanford, 2023) tells the story of a group of militant-artists, some Maghrebi, others Angolan, Haitian, or American, who led Pan-African cultural and political projects out of the recently decolonized cities of Rabat, Algiers, and Tunis.

 

Connect with Paraska Tolan-Szkilnik 👉 https://www.linkedin.com/in/paraska-tolan-163846201

 

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ABOUT AFIKRA
afikra | عفكرة is a movement to convert passive interest in the Arab world to active intellectual curiosity. We aim to collectively reframe the dominant narrative of the region by exploring the histories and cultures of the region – past, present and future – through conversations driven by curiosity.
📍 Local events in 40+ locations worldwide http://afikra.com/chapters
🎧 New podcasts + videos weekly http://afikra.com/podcasts
⚡ Become a member: https://www.afikra.com/membership
🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afikra_
🔗 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/afikra.official
🔗 Twitter: https://twitter.com/afikra

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What made Egypt the longest-surviving country in the world? Aidan Dodson is a professor and author of over 30 books and helps us explore fundamental shifts in our understanding of ancient Egypt. The discussion spans the civilization's long run, from the unification around 3000 BC—a feat commemorated by the crucial Narmer Palette—until Christianity began to erode its religious and linguistic foundations around 300 AD. Dodson examines the Pyramid Era, explaining these structures as magical machines designed to transition the dead king into a god. He also covers the rise of the sun cult and the political power of female pharaohs, including Nefertiti, whose historical importance lies in her role negotiating the religious transition from Akhenaten's revolution to Tutankhamun's return to tradition. The episode concludes with Dr. Dodson's top archaeological discoveries he wishes he had witnessed.

 

00:00 Introduction

01:30 A Passion for Egyptology

02:47 How Ancient Egypt is Presented to Young Audiences

03:47 Defining the Span of Ancient Egypt

04:21 The Unification of Egypt

08:18 Narmer: The Unifier of Egypt

09:56 Daily Life in Early Ancient Egypt

11:31 The Political Center: Memphis

12:57 Knowing the Personalities of Ancient Rulers

15:48 The Narmer Palette and the Discovery of Human Sacrifice

24:29 The Dawn of the Pyramid Era

27:44 Imhotep: Djoser’s Right-Hand Man

30:38 Sneferu: The Greatest Pyramid Builder

33:36 The Purpose of the Pyramids

38:35 The Elevation of the Sun Cult

40:34 The Pyramid Texts and Egyptian Religion

44:49 The Female Pharaohs

49:25 Nefertiti: From Glamour to Political Power

53:57 Dr. Dodson’s Top Archaeological Moments

54:50 The Discovery of Tutankhamun’s Tomb

01:00:04 The Imperial Relationship of Ancient Egypt and Nubia

01:03:17 The Nubian Pharaoh

 

Aidan Dodson is honorary full professor of Egyptology in the Department of Anthropology and Archaeology at the University of Bristol, and has authored some thirty books. He was also Simpson Professor of Egyptology at the American University in Cairo in 2013, and Chair of the Egypt Exploration Society during 2011–16. Awarded his PhD by the University of Cambridge in 2003, he was elected a Fellow of the Society of Antiquaries of London in 2003.

 

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afikra | عفكرة is a movement to convert passive interest in the Arab world to active intellectual curiosity. We aim to collectively reframe the dominant narrative of the region by exploring the histories and cultures of the region – past, present and future – through conversations driven by curiosity.
📍 Local events in 40+ locations worldwide http://afikra.com/chapters
🎧 New podcasts + videos weekly http://afikra.com/podcasts
⚡ Become a member: https://www.afikra.com/membership
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Historian Faisal Husain wrote the book "Rivers of the Sultan: The Tigris and Euphrates in the Ottoman Empire" and in this episode, helps us explore the history of the Tigris and Euphrates. He argued for the necessity of understanding human history within the context of geological time, discussing the rivers' origins roughly 20 million years ago, tracing their influence on civilization from the "agricultural revolution" (which some scholars argue was a mistake leading to health issues) to the rise of early urban centers like the Sumerian cities. The conversation highlights the difference between the gentle Euphrates, which attracted early settlements, and the fast and unpredictable Tigris. Shifting to the Ottoman era, Husain examines the environmental challenges of Ottoman Iraq, which was poor in essential resources like grain, metal, and wood suited for construction, and details the extraordinary story of the Euphrates river changing its course in the late 1600s due to a poorly dug irrigation canal. He emphasizes the cultural importance of the palm tree and the vital role of water buffaloes, which made life possible for a quarter of the Iraqi population in the wetlands, whose fate would have otherwise been migration to seek resources and refuge elsewhere.
 
0:00 Introduction
1:47 When Did the Tigris and Euphrates Start?
3:04 The Importance of Deep History
5:49 Geological Origins: 20 Million Years Ago
7:37 When the Rivers Began to Matter to Homo Sapiens
10:40 The Rationale for Writing Deep History
12:00 Starting Middle East History Before 6th Century Arabia
14:45 The Difference Between the Twin Rivers
17:05 Why Sumerian Civilization Clustered on the Euphrates
20:36 Questioning the Agricultural Revolution
23:16 How Agriculture Began: Trial and Error
27:00 The Consequences of Taming Nature
30:40 The Ottoman Conquest of Iraq
32:20 Why Iraq Was Environmentally Poor for a Major Power
36:06 Iraq’s Default Status Under Iranian States
38:25 Baghdad in the 16th Century
42:25 The Euphrates Shifts Course (Late 1600s)
47:09 Water Buffaloes: The Essential Technology of the Wetlands
49:28 Ranking the Most Important Crops
51:03 Evliya Çelebi: The Traveler
54:49 Ottoman vs. European Traveler Perspectives
58:35 The Book Cover: Baghdad on the Tigris
 
Faisal Husain is an environmental historian of the Ottoman Empire, with a geographical focus on its eastern provinces in Anatolia and Iraq and a temporal focus on the early modern period. His first book "Rivers of the Sultan" examined the role of the Tigris and Euphrates in the establishment of Ottoman state institutions in the Ottoman eastern borderland between the sixteenth and eighteenth centuries. His second book project is an environmental history of Ottoman frontier expansion east of the Euphrates during the sixteenth century. He is co-editing a book on the global histories of animals (under contract with Oxford University Press) with Emily Wakild (Boise State University) and Nancy Jacobs (Brown University). In 2024-2025, he served as a senior lecturer at Boğaziçi University’s Department of History in Istanbul through the Fulbright U.S. Scholar Program. He serves on several editorial boards, including those of Marmara Türkiyat Araştırmaları Dergisi (Marmara University), Global Environment (White Horse Press), and the “Middle East Environmental Histories” book series (Leiden University Press).

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afikra | عفكرة is a movement to convert passive interest in the Arab world to active intellectual curiosity. We aim to collectively reframe the dominant narrative of the region by exploring the histories and cultures of the region – past, present and future – through conversations driven by curiosity.
📍 Local events in 40+ locations worldwide http://afikra.com/chapters
🎧 New podcasts + videos weekly http://afikra.com/podcasts
⚡ Become a member: https://www.afikra.com/membership
🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afikra_
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🔗 Twitter: https://twitter.com/afikra

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Award-winning creative director Ruba Abu-Nimah (known to many as @ruba on Instagram) discusses the state of creativity in the Arab world, the importance of young Arab talent embracing their culture, and the challenges of navigating corporate spaces as a Palestinian in the West. She talks about the foundational skills of graphic design, the vital role of design in communication, spaces and politics, and about her career so far. She also shares her strong belief that the Arab world is now the next frontier in global creativity.
 
0:00 Introduction
1:46 Passion For Graphic Design and Swiss Modernism
3:05 The Difference Between Past and Present Graphic Design Education
4:45 The Craft of Graphic Design and the Importance of Traditional Language
6:00 First Gig: Disruptive Innovation at French Glamour
8:02 Ingredients for Success: Passion, Nerdiness and London's Creative Influence
12:48 Defining Graphic Designer vs Creative Director
14:40 Graphic Design as the Foundation of Communication
15:40 The Subjectivity of Taste and the Role of Instinct
17:50 Design in the Arab World: Considered Cities vs Chaos 
21:45 The Arab Creative Inflection Point: Youth, Voice and New Trends
22:47 Rejecting Emulation: Talent Rooted in Culture and Heritage
24:34 The Arab World Is the Next Frontier in Creativity
25:17 Navigating Prominent Positions as a Palestinian
26:35 Hiding in Plain Sight: The Forced Negation of Arab Origins
28:24 "Loud and Proud": The Momentum of the Arab Diaspora Today
30:21 The Prevailing Attitude: a Son's Act of Defiance
33:47 Corporate America vs Street Change
36:09 Corporate Structures Will Eventually Catch Up With Culture
40:03 The Brilliance of the Mamdani Campaign Design
41:17 Conspicuous Consumption vs Useful Design
48:45 Relationship With Social Media Platforms: Instagram and the Unhinged Threads
50:51 Instagram's Value: Finding and Commissioning Creatives
53:23 The Sweetest Revenge: Upscrolled and the Irony of Palestinian Tech Success
54:00 Recommendations: Arab Creatives To Look Up
 
Ruba Abu-Nimah is a Swiss creative executive of Palestinian descent who has worked in the fashion and cosmetic industries. She was the executive creative director for marketing and communications at Tiffany & Co. from March 2021 to February 2023. She previously worked at Revlon, Elle magazine, Bobbi Brown Cosmetics, and Shiseido. She was the first female creative director at Elle magazine in the US. In 2018, Ruba collaborated with Nike to design the Air Force 1 Low "Love" shoe embodying equality and acceptance. She has collaborated with Phillip Lim on the New York Tougher Than Ever initiative, as well as a limited-edition sweatshirt to raise funds for Lebanon following the 2020 Beirut explosion.
Connect with Ruba Abu-Nimah 👉 
https://instagram.com/ruba

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ABOUT AFIKRA
afikra | عفكرة is a movement to convert passive interest in the Arab world to active intellectual curiosity. We aim to collectively reframe the dominant narrative of the region by exploring the histories and cultures of the region – past, present and future – through conversations driven by curiosity.
📍 Local events in 40+ locations worldwide http://afikra.com/chapters
🎧 New podcasts + videos weekly http://afikra.com/podcasts
⚡ Become a member: https://www.afikra.com/membership
🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/afikra_
🔗 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/afikra.official
🔗 Twitter: https://twitter.com/afikra

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