The Greener Way

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    RIAA Conference: Protecting First Nations heritage

    02-03-2026 | 25 Min.
    Indigenous Cultural Heritage Protection: Investor Risk, Responsibility & First Nations-Led Governance | The Greener Way
    This week on The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Kado Muir, chair of the National Native Title Council ahead of the RIAA Conference in May where Muir is one of the panelists on a session titled, “Indigenous Cultural Heritage Protection: Investor Risk and Responsibility”.
    Muir argues that tools already exist to protect indigenous heritage, but incentives and governance are lacking, including too few First Nations people in decision-making roles and boards.
    He urges investors and governments to screen risks, work with First Nations governance institutions, and make cultural heritage protection a non-negotiable in boardroom discussions.
    02:20 Responsible investment steps
    03:46 Scorecards and governance gaps
    06:46 Real world liability examples
    11:45 Native title and investor risk
    15:53 Building a virtuous cycle
    17:50 Standardising with First Nations
    19:05 Board representation is a blind spot
    22:21 Five years after Juukan Gorge
    23:40 Progress and podcast wrap
    02:20 Responsible investment steps
    03:46 Scorecards and governance gaps
    06:46 Real world liability examples
    11:45 Native title and investor risk
    15:53 Building a virtuous cycle
    19:05 Board representation blind spot
    22:21 Five years after Juukan
    23:40 Positive note and wrap
    Links:
    https://www.kadomuir.com.au/
    Podcast: My culture story with Kado Muir

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    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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    ESG in 2026: Evolution or revolution?

    23-02-2026 | 21 Min.
    Despite global sustainable funds recording more than US$80 billion in net outflows in 2025, Australia and New Zealand are bucking the trend and continue to attract new capital.
    In this episode, Australian Ethical deputy chief investment officer John Woods unpacks how ESG investing is evolving in 2026, explaining why there's still plenty of opportunities out there for sustainable investors, the importance of transparency, and the need for a reliable ESG fund labelling system.
    He also breaks down Australian Ethical’s approach to investing in emerging markets, and how it's looking at renewables, climate tech, private credit, and solar‑driven infrastructure.

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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    ESG: Clearing the jargon overload

    16-02-2026 | 21 Min.
    This week on TGW, host Michelle Baltazar welcomes ESG and responsible investing leader Dr Ian Woods to discuss 'ESG Unlocked', a new book he has co-authored with Josh Dowse, which was written to address the disconnect between how companies and investors understand and apply ESG.
    Woods explains that the book’s aim is to demystify ESG by reducing jargon, joining the dots between corporate and investment perspectives, and showing how ESG integration can support both sustainability outcomes and profits and investment returns.
    00:42 Meet Dr. Ian Woods + introducing the book 'ESG Unlocked'
    02:07 How the book was born: Bridging the company–investor disconnect
    03:52 From climate pioneer to ESG mainstream: What changed over time
    06:18 Case study: IAG’s investor-aligned climate journey
    08:00 Common ESG investing myths: Divestment, materiality and performance
    11:50 The ticking clock: Physical climate risk vs transition risk
    14:34 Natural, social, human and financial capital: making ESG relevant
    16:21 Behind the scenes: Writing during COVID + making ESG readable
    19:04 The next decade: No more “ESG teams”?
    Links: ESG Unlocked

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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    Data centres under threat from extreme weather

    09-02-2026 | 13 Min.
    In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar from FS Sustainability, discusses the increasing climate-driven risks to data centers with Julia Leske, managing director at ISS Sustainability.
    They explore the challenges posed by extreme heat and water stress on data centres globally. Julia shares insights from ISS's report, Actionable Insights: Top Sustainability Themes in 2026, revealing infrastructure vulnerabilities, the urgent need for resilient cooling systems and investment implications.
    00:36 Exploring climate risks for data centres
    01:06 Data centre resilience
    01:44 The biggest climate threats to data centres
    02:24 Case Study: Heat waves and water stress
    03:47 Global analysis of data centre risks
    04:07 Future projections and regional vulnerabilities
    06:45 The need for advanced cooling technologies
    09:02 Business continuity planning and gaps
    Links: https://www.issgovernance.com/sustainability/actionable-insights-top-sustainability-themes-in-2026/

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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    The steel paradox

    02-02-2026 | 18 Min.
    In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the critical and complicated role of steel in the transition to a decarbonised future with Fidelity International's Sue-Lyn Stubbs.
    They discuss the steel paradox and its essential role in economic growth, green technology development versus its high emissions footprint, the financial and regulatory implications, and the effect of methane emissions on the industry.
    02:04 Understanding the steel paradox
    04:10 Financial risks and opportunities in the steel value chain
    06:35 The importance of methane emissions
    07:49 Impact on Australian mining companies
    08:33 Future of green steel technologies
    10:44 Investor engagement and regulatory developments
    16:03 The steel methane investor initiative
    Links: The methane blindspot: Why investors are rethinking their steel value chain exposure

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy

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The Greener Way is your podcast for exploring the big environmental, social and governance questions. Each week, The Greener Way will focus on deep conversations with investment and corporate experts who are deeply engaged in managing the sustainability challenges facing our planet. From climate change to biodiversity, human rights and modern slavery to corporate purpose and governance, we tackle head-on the nuances and trade-offs of our complicated world. The Greener Way is the podcast of FS Sustainability, the premier weekly trade publication that covers how investors and companies are changing real world outcomes across environmental, social and governance issues. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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