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The Greener Way

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  • The Greener Way

    The next clean energy hotspot

    18-05-2026 | 17 Min.
    Why Australia Is a Clean Energy Investment Hotspot: Solar, Wind, Batteries & Energy Security | Joost Bergsma
    On The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Joost Bergsma, global head of energy at Nuveen Infrastructure, about clean energy investing, energy security, and why Australia is attractive for large-scale renewables.
    Bergsma reflects on his the last two decades in the sector and describes how capital raising has evolved from needing to explain basic technologies to today’s dedicated institutional infrastructure teams, alongside greater competition.
    He explains clean energy investments across solar, onshore/offshore wind and battery storage that appeal to Nuveen’s institutional clients.
    He also highlights what’s new in the battery storage sector and Australia’s land-driven scale advantages versus Europe.
    For investors just entering the clean energy sector, he explains the need to address China-concentrated supply chains and Australia’s grid buildout needs.
    01:02 A career milestone in clean energy
    02:13 Capital raising outlook
    03:09 Nuveen infrastructure strategy
    04:43 Geopolitics and energy security
    06:47 Data centres and demand surge
    08:41 Risk return spectrum explained
    09:45 Australian investor appetite
    10:54 Nuveen’s local pipeline
    12:04 Ten-year outlook on batteries
    14:40 What could go wrong?
    We record on Gadigal land and we pay our respects to the traditional custodians of country and elders past and present.
    https://www.fssustainability.com.au/

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
  • The Greener Way

    The real cost of tariffs

    11-05-2026 | 17 Min.
    Who Really pays tariffs? Stanford economist breaks down the hidden consumer cost
    In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Stanford University economist Luke Heeney about the often-overlooked social impacts of industrial policy, focusing on the 2025 US tariffs and their effects on the automotive sector.
    Heeney explains why accounting for tariffs on intermediate inputs is crucial, finding that many US producers lose billions when parts are included, with only one company coming out ahead due to greater domestic sourcing.
    He also finds the largest percentage of financial losses fall on the lowest-income households, costing billions of dollars.
    00:00 Who pays tariffs?
    00:58 Industrial policy focus
    03:11 Tariffs study setup
    04:30 Key findings explained
    06:27 Lessons for Australia
    07:37 Why impacts are overlooked
    09:37 Staggering consumer costs
    12:04 Building better toolkits
    14:27 What the government can do
    We record on Gadigal land and we pay our respects to the traditional custodians of country and elders past and present.
    https://www.fssustainability.com.au/

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
  • The Greener Way

    The supply chain bottleneck

    04-05-2026 | 16 Min.
    Critical Minerals Supercycle? How AI, Clean Energy & Geopolitics Are Reshaping Supply Chains
    In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Vinnay Cchoda, responsible investment manager at BetaShares, about the predicted shortage of some critical minerals in the next couple of decades and how that could force a resetting of investment expectations and strategies.
    Cchoda says the convergence of electrification, AI-driven data center buildout, and unstable geopolitics is causing supply chain issues.
    He argues that the supercycle of critical minerals is directionally right but too simplistic, with uneven outcomes across the different types of minerals. For example, lithium and nickel are seeing faster supply responses and price corrections, while copper has hit new highs.
    The discussion highlights why investors need to look at their diversification strategies and how to respond to the cycles within the supercycle impacting investment outcomes.
    Read: Critical minerals in the age of AI and tariffs (Link: https://www.fssustainability.com.au/article/critical-minerals-in-the-age-of-ai-and-tariffs)
    01:08 Three forces converge
    04:17 Supercycle creates uneven outcomes
    07:27 When AI meets clean energy
    09:06 Predicted 40% supply shortage
    10:52 Supply chain bottlenecks
    13:05 Investor playbook
    We record on Gadigal land and we pay our respects to the traditional custodians of country and elders, past and present.
    https://www.fssustainability.com.au/

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
  • The Greener Way

    A deep-green investing mindset

    27-04-2026 | 12 Min.
    Deep Green vs Medium Green Investing: Returns, Volatility & ESG Trade-Offs | The Greener Way
    In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with financial adviser Alex Jameison of Jamieson Private Wealth about how investors reassess sustainability preferences amid fuel shortages, energy insecurity, and geopolitical shocks.
    Jamieson explains starting with a client’s values and ESG preferences, clarifying what they want to exclude or include (such as mining, defense, tobacco), and discussing “levels of greenness” and potential performance trade-offs—especially when sectors like materials or oil and gas outperform. He notes medium-green portfolios may not see major performance trade-offs, while very deep-green approaches can increase volatility due to concentration and may require a more global investment mindset, with Europe offering larger opportunities than Australia.

    02:03 Deep green vs returns
    03:54 Explaining cycle differences
    05:25 Volatility and global diversification
    06:15 Investor expectations and greenwashing
    07:59 ESG options and advisor role
    09:45 Geopolitics and renewables trends

    We record on Gadigal land and we pay our respects to the traditional custodians of country and elders past and present.
    https://www.fssustainability.com.au/

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
  • The Greener Way

    Banking on green loans

    20-04-2026 | 15 Min.
    Green loans & cheaper home batteries: How the CEFC Is Powering Australia’s Household Energy Transition
    This week on The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Grace Tam, head of consumer finance at the Clean Energy Finance Corporation (CEFC), on how the Australian government, through the CEFC, is driving record levels of green loan applications.
    According to the CEFC, the number of loans made under the Household Energy Upgrades Fund™ more than doubled between the first and second halves of 2025, up by 158 per cent. More than 4,100 loans have been made and over 10,000 technology installations completed since the fund was launched.
    Tam explains what's worked, the misconceptions around green loans and how lenders are adopting a new approach to appeal to investors and 'green' households.

    00:49 What is the CEFC's purpose?
    01:02 The latest on the $1bn Household Energy Upgrades Fund
    02:33 What is a green loan?
    03:21 The green lending ecosystem
    05:38 The uptake and key lessons
    07:16 The rise of virtual power plants
    08:41 Has the risk around green lending changed?
    09:54 Barriers and the need for more consumer education
    11:10 How lenders are partnering with third parties
    12:53 A small window of opportunity
    We record on Gadigal land and we pay our respects to the traditional custodians of country and elders, past and present.
    https://www.fssustainability.com.au/

    This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

    OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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The Greener Way is your podcast for exploring the big environmental, social and governance questions. Each week, The Greener Way will focus on deep conversations with investment and corporate experts who are deeply engaged in managing the sustainability challenges facing our planet. From climate change to biodiversity, human rights and modern slavery to corporate purpose and governance, we tackle head-on the nuances and trade-offs of our complicated world. The Greener Way is the podcast of FS Sustainability, the premier weekly trade publication that covers how investors and companies are changing real world outcomes across environmental, social and governance issues. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
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