The Holy Post

The United States is turning 250 this week, but the country is divided about the anniversary. Should the country celebrate or lament? Historian Robert Tracy McKenzie joins Skye to talk about the ongoing fight over how to tell America's story, why we reject nuance, and what he saw at the Rededicate 250 event in Washington, D.C. that made him concerned. Kaitlyn offers her take on a New York Times interview with Louise Perry about rethinking the sexual revolution. Perry argues, as a non-believer, for the recovery of sexual ethics that seem very Christian. What does that say about our culture's fatigue with secularism? Also this week—AI finds proof that your parents were right about the music you listen to, and the World Cup is revealing the decency of average Americans.
 
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Getting Schooled - Weddings 101: https://holypost.substack.com/p/getting-schooled-weddings-101
 
0:00 - Show Starts
1:50 - Theme Song
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3:24 - Rededicate
5:12 - World Cup Brings World Together
11:24 - Pop Music's Moral Slide
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23:08 - New Sexual Revolution?
54:09 - Interview
58:10 - Unblemished America
1:03:15 - Credal or Racial Nation?
1:11:40 - Founding Father's Private Faith
1:19:53 - Wanting a Positive Vision
1:28:08 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Louise Perry on the Sexual Revolution:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/25/opinion/gender-sexual-revolution-men-women.html
 
Pop Music has Become Less Moral:
https://www.newsweek.com/music-has-got-nastier-since-60s-study-says-12119675
 
Other Resources:
How America Gave Up on Its Own History:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/american-history-common-narrative/687301/
 
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Over the last decade, white evangelicals in the U.S. have lost their moral credibility. In response, Peter Wehner says the church should embrace a form of "Christian humanism." The Holy Post crew discusses his article, what he gets right, and why that label may be a barrier for some. Kaitlyn interviews biblical scholar Michael Rhodes about his book,"Reimagining Biblical Politics: What Scripture Says About Public Life and Why It Matters." Rather than looking to specific verses to define our political positions, Rhodes says we must allow all of Scripture to shape our imaginations and then use discernment as we engage our unique political context. Also this week—controversy over the design of the Obama Presidential Center in Chicago, how faith-based apps are gamifying Christianity, and the benefits of talking to dogs.
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https://holypost.substack.com/p/how-christians-can-live-faithfully
 
0:00 - Show Starts
2:44 - Theme Song
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5:57 - Talking to Dogs Makes Ya Smart?
 
11:41 - Obama Presidential Center
 
23:56 - World Relief Update with Matthew Soerens - In this immigration update, Matthew Soerens shares insights on the global displacement crisis. Start a new monthly gift to World Relief by June 30 and receive a copy of his book, Seeking Refuge, as a thank-you gift. Begin your monthly partnership today at worldrelief.org/holypost.
 
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30:57 - Turning Prayer into an App
 
57:22 - Interview
 
1:04:42 - What Do We Mean by "Politics?"
 
1:15:40 - The Ambiguity of Esther
 
1:23:30 - Scripture Transforms Politics
 
1:34:26 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
The Commodification of Christianity:
https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/the-commodification-of-christianity
 
American Christians Face a Choice:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/christian-humanism-trump-choice/687475/
 
Other Resources:
crossRhodes: Reimagining Biblical Politics:
https://pod.link/1888014284?view=apps&sort=popularity
 
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
 
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Last year, the President celebrated his birthday with a military parade. This year, he hosted a UFC cage match on the South Lawn of the White House. It's easy to compare it to the gladiator games honoring the Roman emperor, but Phil asks whether it's a sign that America would rather emulate pre-Christian Roman values than biblical ones. Americans can no longer agree on how to teach American history, so we're not teaching it much at all. Is it possible to recover a shared national story? Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his latest book, "Paul for the World," and why the Apostle would not recognize a modern Christianity that's focused on heaven rather than earth. Also this week—the science behind dad jokes.
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https://holypost.substack.com/p/should-the-church-preserve-ethnic
0:00 - Show Starts
3:12 - Theme Song
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5:38 - Science Supports Dad Jokes
14:49 - UFC Fight at the White House
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32:17 - "American Dream" Finding Cuts
35:02 - What Story is America Telling?
52:16 - Interview
57:46 - Is Social Justice Christian?
1:06:20 - Epicureans and Stoics
1:14:33 - Bonhauffer and the Incarnate Church
1:28:15 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Sciences Supports Dad Jokes:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2026/06/15/science-suggests-cringe-worthy-dad-jokes-may-serve-an-actual-purpose/
 
No Common American Narrative:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/american-history-common-narrative/687301/
 
Other Resources:
Paul for the World: A Grounded Vision for Finding Meaning in This Life—Not Just the Next (What Paul's Letters Say about Work, Friendship, Money, Wellness, Justice, and More) by Nijay Gupta:
https://amzn.to/3RZR8ON
 
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
 
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While secular journalists, scholars, and even the Pope are wrestling with big questions about Artificial Intelligence, the war in the Middle East, and what it means to be truly human, the Southern Baptists have decided the most urgent problem in 2026 is banning women from preaching. Phil asks why evangelicals are still fixated on issues from 50 years ago, while other Christian traditions are leading the culture in tackling modern questions. Zachary Wagner, author of "Men of Virtue," joins Skye and Kaitlyn for a roundup of masculine news. Wagner says the excesses of some expressions of feminism have fueled a subculture of male grievance, and that a pagan vision of masculinity is now masquerading as Christian throughout the manosphere. Also this week, nuns are challenging the tech giants, and Google wants permission to "debug" Florida.
 
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Looksmaxing, Beauty, and Masculinity - Bonus Interview with Zachary Wagner:
https://holypost.substack.com/p/looksmaxing-beauty-and-masculinity
 
0:00 - Intro
 
2:58 - Theme Song
 
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5:48 - Google Mosquitos!
 
11:27 - Nuns Pressuring A.I.!
 
14:48 - A.I. Misconduct and Sin
 
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22:49 - Frozen in the Cold War
 
46:22 - Interview
 
48:40 - Aspirational Masculinity
 
59:13 - Are the Fruit of the Spirit Gendered?
 
1:10:28 - Unified by Antifeminism
 
1:26:50 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Google's Literal Debugging: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/01/google-permission-release-mosquitoes-california-florida
 
Catholic Nuns and Palantir A.I.
https://religionnews.com/2026/06/03/catholic-sisters-push-palantir-on-human-rights-as-faith-leaders-rally-in-new-york/
 
A.I. and Sin
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/06/pope-leo-ai-christian/687388/
 
Other Resources:
Men of Virtue: How the Fruit of the Spirit Forms Male Character in the Modern World (A Guide for Men Seeking Biblical Masculinity, Perfect Father's Day Gift) by Zachary Wagner: https://amzn.to/4uZRL9o
 
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
 
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The Pope's first encyclical about the importance of human dignity and the threat posed by A.I. is causing a stir. Some secular journalists are celebrating Leo's moral clarity, while Trump administration officials are saying the Pope should stay in his lane. Historian Yuval Noah Harari has his own warning about A.I. and explains how we are moving from an "attention economy" into an "intimacy economy." With the launch of Holy Post Media on Substack, Kaitlyn and Skye take you behind the paywall to sample everything offered by Holy Post Plus, including a daily devotional for people who hate devotionals. Also this week, a dog in Nebraska stands his ground.
 
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Getting Schooled - Matchmaking 201:
https://holypost.substack.com/p/getting-schooled-matchmaking-201
 
0:00 - Show Starts
 
1:49 - Theme Song
 
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4:28 - With God Daily is Here!
 
8:27 - Dog Shoots Woman!
 
10:55 - The Pope's Encyclical on A.I.
 
24:50 - How A.I. Hacks Brains
 
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37:05 - Narcissism and A.I.
 
53:07 - Tour of HP+
 
56:28 - With God Daily
 
1:03:46 - My Hill to Die On
 
1:11:34 - Getting Schooled
 
1:18:37 - 66 Verses
 
1:26:25 - Advice-ish
 
1:33:58 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Dog Shoots Woman at 7-Eleven!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/26/dog-shotgun-nebraska-convenience-store
 
Slate on the Pope's A.I. Encyclical:
https://slate.com/technology/2026/05/artificial-intelligence-pope-leo-encyclical.html
 
Other Resources:
 
Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/
 
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