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A recent article in The Atlantic argues that we should stop using the label "Christian nationalism" to criticize the religious right because both conservatives and progressives throughout American history have been motivated by Christian faith. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss what the article gets right and why we need to keep talking about the danger of Christian nationalism. Phil wonders why Catholic leaders are outspoken in their criticism of the Iran war, while fewer evangelical leaders are speaking up. Kaitlyn talks with Amar Peterman about his book, Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local. Also this week—the online heresy hunters are angry, and M.I.T. creates injectable satellite mini livers.
 
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6:52 - Who's a Heretic?
 
12:04 - Injectable Livers from MIT!
 
17:45 - Christian Coverage of the Iran War
 
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33:07 - "Christian Nationalist" Term Unhelpful?
 
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51:15 - Interview
 
52:14 - Why Did Peterman Write "Becoming Neighbors?"
 
1:01:06 - The Struggles of Diverse Theologies
 
1:14:08 - Seeking Good Yet Disagreeing
 
1:26:02 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Satellite Livers!
https://news.mit.edu/2026/injectable-satellite-livers-could-offer-alternative-liver-transplantation-0303
 
Cardinals on War in Iran:
https://catholicreview.org/white-house-gamifying-war-on-iran-marks-a-moral-crisis-warns-us-cardinal/
 
Atlantic article on Christian Nationalists:
https://www.theatlantic.com/books/2026/03/how-christian-nationalist-became-epithet/686279/
 
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Becoming Neighbors: The Common Good Made Local by Amar Peterman:
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In the past, Christian fundamentalism was defined by a literal reading of the Bible and conservative social values. They believed in things like a seven-day creation, the rapture, prophecies about the return of Jesus, and supporting the state of Israel. But data shows that fewer evangelicals hold these beliefs, but that doesn't mean fundamentalism is going away. Skye and Kaitlyn are joined by Mike Erre to discuss the changing definition of Christian fundamentalism in America, and why the older variety may have been better. Then Bob Goff talks about his new video project through the Holy Land called "A Journey with Jesus," and how he sustains his joy in these angry times. Also this week—why is Gen Z drinking less alcohol?
 
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5:46 - Why Aren't People Drinking Alcohol?
 
16:52 - Creationism Isn't Very Common
 
27:50 - The Anti-Israel New Right
 
37:50 - Why Are Evangelicals Less Pro-Israel?
 
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55:37 - Interview
 
58:59 - Why'd Bob Goff Write A Journey with Jesus?
 
1:07:34 - Maintaining Authenticity
 
1:25:50 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Alcohol's Not Popular?
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/16/dining/us-alcohol-restaurants.html
 
Israel, Rapture, and the Right:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2026/03/08/gop-maga-israel-evangelicals-theology-premillennialism-00818312
 
Creationism's Not That Common:
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/creationism-isnt-as-common-as-you
 
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Do you remember the children's book, "Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day"? That title also sums up what most Americans think about Trump's new war with Iran. Kaitlyn explains why the war is immoral based on Christian theology, Phil channels Ezra Klein to define America's new "heads on pikes" foreign policy, and Skye says the war fits Donald Trump's long pattern of laziness and impatience. Then, Preston Sprinkle is back to discuss his latest book, "From Genesis to Junia," about his journey to determine what the Bible really says about women in leadership. Also this week, Americans were the only people in a worldwide survey to say most of their fellow citizens are bad people. Plus, some happy puppy news.
 
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6:42 - A Dog Called Ted
 
9:04 - Skye on Iran
 
28:30 - Americans Don't Trust Americans?
 
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49:12 - Interview
 
53:46 - Why's Preston Writing on Women in Ministry?
 
1:04:00 - Increased Interest in Egalitarian
 
1:14:20 - Tribalism and Taking Scripture Seriously
 
1:31:34 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
Americans Think Americans Are Morally Bad:
https://religionunplugged.com/news/2026/3/5/new-study-americans-think-fellow-citizens-are-morally-bad
 
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The U.S. launched a military strike on Iran and President Trump is framing it in moral terms. Phil, Kaitlyn, and Katelyn Beaty discuss the administration's shifting justifications for war, and why Christians should be cautious of language that makes it easier to dehumanize enemies. Then, they turn to the mass shooting in Austin and the predictable scramble to turn tragedy into political leverage. Kaitlyn interviews Carrie McKean about why distrust in public health and debates over immigration are often more complicated than our partisan categories allow. Also this week, don't take selfies with snow leopards.
 
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5:55 - Snow Leopards
 
10:50 - War with Iran
 
17:36 - Shooting in Texas
 
33:16 - Wanting to Help 
 
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53:10 - Interview
 
54:25 - Accidentally Writing for New York Times
 
59:56 - Anti-Vax and Eroding Trust
 
1:07:40 - Coming Here Legally… Not Simple
 
1:12:40 - A Trump Supporter Caring for Immigrants
 
1:25:20 - End Credits
 
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Don't Take Selfies with Leopards!
https://www.vice.com/en/article/a-woman-tried-to-take-a-selfie-with-a-snow-leopard-she-almost-lost-her-face/
 
Ballerina Farm:
https://people.com/ballerina-farm-hannah-neeleman-says-baby-no-9-could-be-my-last-11917665
 
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Many of our political leaders invoke the Bible, but Rabbi Shai Held says many don't understand one of its most important commands. Rabbi Held argues that Scripture's call to love immigrants was a "moral revolution" and says the mistreatment of immigrants is an abomination in God's eyes. Skye interviews Father James Martin about his new memoir, "Work in Progress," about his journey from the business world to the priesthood. They also discuss the link between Jesuit spirituality and Protestant theology, and they get nerdy about Jesus and temple theology. Also this week—the rise of non-denoms, and Phil wants cornhole in the Olympics.
 
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15:06 - A Rabbi's Op-Ed on Immigration
 
27:45 - More Life-Saving Aid Cut
 
37:58 - Non-Denominational Churches
 
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54:55 - Interview
 
57:03 - How Father Martin Became a Jesuit Priest
 
1:04:53 - Post-Secularism
 
1:15:02 - The Woman at the Well
 
1:27:46 - End Credits
 
Links Mentioned in News Segment:
A Rabbi on Immigration and the Bible:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/22/opinion/immigrants-religion-bible-politics.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/religion
 
Trump Administration Cutting More AID Programs:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/2026/02/trump-state-department-ending-aid-seven-african-countries/686106/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/TheAtlantic
 
Why Are Non-Denominationals so Big? 
https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/those-non-denoms-are-just-southern?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1561197&post_id=182170104&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=6smb2&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
 
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