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    Laurent Aufiels, Chief People Officer at Orange Business: AI Transformation Is a People Project

    28-05-2026 | 26 Min.
    What if the biggest mistake companies make with AI transformation is treating it as a technology problem? Laurent Aufiels, Chief People Officer at Orange Business, knows that it’s all about people.

    In this episode Kathi Enderes sits down with Laurent to explore how one of the world’s leading digital services companies transformed its entire 30,000-people workforce through a people-first approach to generative AI.

    The results are concrete and striking. Orange Business’s AI-powered contract management tool slashed what previously took teams weeks of painstaking analysis to under three hours — fundamentally disrupting not just how people work, but how they understand the value they bring.  Rather than letting 30,000 people go and rehiring AI specialists, Laurent and his team made a bold choice: there will always be a human in the loop. That principle became the foundation of everything — the cultural compass that kept employees from fearing the future and turned anxiety into engagement.

    The numbers tell the story. Among employees who went through Orange Business’s reskilling and upskilling programs, employee Net Promoter Scores shot from a modest +8 to a remarkable +41. Over 90% of the company’s workforce is now trained in generative AI, and more than 60% use it as a regular part of their daily work.  AI certifications became a business objective on par with financial targets, and the company won contracts specifically because clients knew their teams had the credentials to back up their pitch.

    But perhaps the most powerful insight Laurent shares is about learning. In the AI era, learning is no longer a one-time investment or a classroom event; it is a continuous business capability, and it must be embedded into the rhythm of everyday work.

    Orange Business’s YouTime initiative — dedicating three hours per month per employee to learning — changed the entire mindset of the organization. Paired with an 11,000-member internal generative AI community, it created the kind of grassroots momentum that no top-down mandate ever could. Laurent’s advice to CHROs and HR leaders: stay humble, keep experimenting, and never let technology outpace your people.

    Related resources

    Podcast: Why AI Is A Massive Job Creation Technology. Automated Integration. Findem. And Thank You. 

    Research: The Superworker Organization: AI Goes Enterprise

    Research: AI Pacesetters: Six Secrets Of The Superworker Company
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    The Pope's Encyclical on Safeguarding Humans In The Face of AI

    27-05-2026 | 11 Min.
    The Pope’s Encyclical on AI is well worth reading. It’s not only about the perils and risks of technology, it’s really a manifesto about power. I found the essay extremely valuable to read so I wanted to share my perspectives on the topic and the fascinating analogy between AI and The Tower of Babel.

    I welcome your thoughts and comments.

    Additional Information

    The Encyclical

    Summary: Pope Leo’s ‘Magnifica humanitas’: AI must serve humanity not concentrate power

    AI Prices Are Going Up, Up, Up – Maybe Workers Are More Productive Than You Thought

    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - On the Pope's AI Encyclical
    (00:08:33) - Robots and the Pope
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    Reflections On The Sana AI Summit In New York City

    23-05-2026 | 22 Min.
    This week I attended the Sana AI Summit in NYC, so I wanted to share the various conversations and new ideas that came from this multi-disciplinary meeting. I hope my summary helps you see some of the bigger issues at play here.

    Will AI destroy the job market? What is the real economic value so far? What is the difference between AI and humans? How safe is AI in reality? And how can we use AI to really better our lives, careers, and companies?

    I hope my summary gives you some new ideas to think about as this technology permeates our lives and businesses. (And I recommend Geoffrey Hinton’s discussion for a listen.)

    Speaker
    Role / affiliation listed

    Tyler Cowen
    Economist and author

    Geoffrey Hinton
    Computer scientist and “Godfather of AI”

    Anton Osika
    Co-Founder, Lovable

    Lauren Crichton
    Vice President, Sana

    Benjamín Labatut
    Writer

    Aneel Bhusri
    Co-founder, CEO and Chair, Workday

    Jasmine Sun
    Tech anthropologist

    Joel Hellermark
    Founder and CEO, Sana

    Sara Imari Walker
    Astrobiologist

    Ethan Mollick
    Professor of Entrepreneurship

    Anu Atluru
    Essayist and technologist
    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - SANAA AI Summit 2017
    (00:01:23) - A More Human World With AI
    (00:03:19) - Will AI Hurt the Economy?
    (00:06:53) - A More Human Workforce
    (00:08:47) - What is a Human Decision?
    (00:15:26) - The Ethical Problem of AI
    (00:18:46) - The cranky writer on AI
    (00:20:12) - The Future of AI in HR
    (00:21:58) - A Taste of the AI Summit
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    Surprise, Your AI Doesn't Train Itself. Building and Maintaining AI Agents.

    22-05-2026 | 15 Min.
    Many of our clients are playing with Claude, building things, and telling us about their amazing new innovations. But there’s a strange misconception out there – the idea that you can just “buy an Agent” and turn it on immediately.

    AI doesn’t quite work this way. These systems “become you” – which means you have to train, maintain, tune, and continuously monitor them. Here’s the story for a quick listen. Here is a brief background on “managing and maintaining” AI agents.

    And remember, this is the power of AI – you want it to “learn” about your company!  But like a junior staff member, you have to coach and train it.

    Additional Information

    Introducing HR 2030: A Vision For Agentic Human Resources

    Agentic HR: Where Enterprise AI Is Going – Imperatives 

    Why AI Is A Massive Job-Creation Technology, Despite What You Think

    The Age of the Superworker (and Supermanager)

    Get Galileo: The AI Superagent for HR

    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - The Real Story of AI in Talent Management
    (00:07:27) - Onboarding the AI Learning Curve
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    New Research On Frontline and Cornerstone Goes Big Into AI

    20-05-2026 | 20 Min.
    This week I’m in New York “Live!” and there are some exciting things happening: we launched our newest research on “The Five Types of Frontline Worker” which will help you dramatically improve that part of your business, and Cornerstone, the largest L&D tech provider, went BIG into AI.

    Listen up for more details, and read the newest article for analysis.

    Additional Information

    Josh Bersin Company Defines New HR Taxonomy for Frontline Workers to Improve Hiring, Pay, Retention, and Management

    Research: Understanding The Five Types of Frontline Workers

    Cornerstone Launches Its Reinvention, Helping to Redefine Corporate Learning

    Get Galileo: The Everything HR AI Agent for HR and Leaders

     

    Chapters

    (00:00:00) - Cornerstone on the frontline labor market
    (00:00:21) - The frontline workforce and the cornerstone
    (00:03:47) - The Future of Workforce Segmentation
    (00:12:25) - The future of learning is dynamic content
    (00:17:26) - Josh Burson at Irresistible 2026
    (00:19:17) - Podcast
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