From the Rickhouse: Why Svelte Might Just Outdo React w/ Rich Harris
In this special International Whiskey Day episode of Whiskey Web and Whatnot, hosts RobbieTheWagner, and Charles William Carpenter III are joined by special guest Rich Harris. They share a toast with Lagavulin Offerman Edition whiskey and dive into a discussion covering a range of topics from Rich's journey in software development, his work on the Svelte framework, to his thoughts on cheese, fermented foods, and brewing kombucha. The conversation transitions into deeper tech discussions about TypeScript, the evolution of web development tools, the balance between developer experience and user experience, and the upcoming features in Svelte 5. Rich also shares personal anecdotes from his career in journalism and his passion for cooking and skiing. The episode concludes with insights into the overabundance of tech conferences and a note on the upcoming Svelte Summit.In this episode:(00:00) - Welcome to the International Whiskey Day Special(00:48) - Meet Rich Harris: The Man Behind Svelte(01:28) - The Great Cheese Debate: To Love or Not to Love(02:40) - Brewing Kombucha: A Fermented Adventure(03:59) - Whiskey Tasting: The Lagavulin Offerman Edition Experience(07:29) - Rating the Whiskey: From Smoky Notes to Leather Hints(10:34) - Exploring Smoky Whiskeys and Beyond(11:57) - Hot Takes on Tech: TypeScript, Tailwind, and More(24:51) - The Evolution of Digital Journalism and Development Tools(27:40) - Git Practices and the GraphQL Debate(30:29) - The Developer's Dilemma: Tool Selection and User Experience(31:17) - The Spicy Segment: A Critical Look at ES Build(33:11) - Developer Experience vs. User Experience: A Shift in Priorities(34:24) - The Evolution of Svelte: From Speed to Ease of Use(40:34) - Introducing Svelte 5: A Ground-Up Rewrite(50:03) - Beyond Tech: Dream Jobs and Personal Passions(56:54) - The Global Developer Conference Scene(59:18) - Final Thoughts and Svelte PromotionLinksRich Harris: https://twitter.com/Rich_Harris Svelte: https://svelte.dev/ Connect with our hostsRobbie Wagner: https://twitter.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://twitter.com/CharlesWThe3rd Subscribe and stay in touchApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 Whiskey Web and Whatnot: https://whiskey.fm Whiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund/.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Is HTML a Programming Language?
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk about whiskey, wings, and web development—naturally. They taste-test Sweetens Cove Kennessee, reminisce about failed food challenges, and discuss whether HTML and Markdown qualify as programming languages. They also discuss site optimization woes, Astro troubleshooting, and the chaos of parenting while debugging.In this episode:(00:00) – Intro(01:17) – Whiskey rating and review: Sweetens Cove Kennessee(11:46) – Is HTML a programming language?(13:47) – 200 episodes and debugging Astro(17:56) – Ember projects and developer nostalgia(20:10) – Playing with AI inside Ember(23:37) – What’s the right AI stack for web development today?(28:29) – Are AI builder tools worth the hype?(32:11) – Warp 2.0(33:25) – Chuck’s hot take: why am I assembling my own dinner?(38:15) – Robbie's sushi realizations(38:52) – Chuck’s moving status and life update(43:04) – Robbie’s parenting update(45:30) – Robbie gets back to the gym (sort of)LinksSweetens Cove Kennessee: https://sweetenscovespirits.com/It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_Always_Sunny_in_PhiladelphiaNorlan: https://norlanglass.com/Jack Daniel's: https://www.jackdaniels.com/George Dickel: https://www.georgedickel.com/Belle Meade: https://www.bellemeadebourbon.com/Buffalo Trace: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/Arrested Development: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrested_DevelopmentJavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScriptPHP: https://www.php.net/C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)Markdown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MarkdownFriday Deployment: https://fridaydeployment.co/Astro: https://astro.build/Vercel: https://vercel.com/Discord: https://discord.comjQuery: https://jquery.com/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Vite: https://vite.dev/ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.comClaude: https://claude.aiWindsurf: https://windsurf.ai/VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/Cline: https://cline.bot/GitHub: https://github.comTypecraft: https://typecraft.dev/Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink/Bolt: https://bolt.new/Lovable: https://lovable.dev/Replit: https://replit.com/React: https://react.dev/Jordan Walke: https://x.com/jordwalkeFigma: https://www.figma.com/Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Connect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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From FAANG to Fired: The Illusion of Stability in Big Tech w/ Adam Argyle
This week, Robbie and special guest co-host Adam Argyle talk about life after layoffs, the myth of job security at big tech companies, and what it really means to build meaningful things on the web.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(01:23) - Whiskey: Chicken Cock Rye(02:45) - From FAANG to fired: the illusion of stability in Big Tech(14:49) - How HTML and CSS are replacing JavaScript, one feature at a time(23:13) - Robbie’s role at HashiCorp(26:47) - What is AI actually good at?(53:30) - Taste, tools, and the art of building with (or without) AI(57:32) - Waking and baking(58:54) - Robbie on raising twins(01:03:05) - Why Robbie left Amazon(01:04:25) - Where tech is headed: AI, burnout, and the future of creativity(01:09:20) - PlugsLinksChicken Cock: https://chickencockwhiskey.com/Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeinfeldNorlan Glass: https://norlanglass.com/Chrome: https://www.google.com/chrome/South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_ParkAmazon: https://amazon.comTanStack: https://tanstack.com/Netlify: https://www.netlify.com/Shopify: https://www.shopify.comMicrosoft: https://www.microsoft.com/Lady Bird: https://ladybird.orgMozilla: https://www.mozilla.org/Brilliant: https://brilliant.org/Duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/Apple: https://apple.comWestworld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westworld_(TV_series)Dead Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_SpaceAwwwards: https://www.awwwards.com/Vue: https://vuejs.org/Safari: https://www.apple.com/safari/Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Figma: https://www.figma.com/Lodash: https://lodash.com/HashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/Ember: https://emberjs.com/Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Firebase Studio: https://firebase.studio/Zed: https://zed.dev/NotebookLM: https://notebooklm.google.com/ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/Claude: https://claude.aiCline: https://cline.bot/Deno: https://deno.com/Sam Altman: https://x.com/samaDeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/Dia: https://www.diabrowser.com/Warp: https://www.warp.dev/Honda Accord: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_AccordSilicon Valley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/Catch Me If You Can: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_Me_If_You_CanCopilot: https://github.com/features/copilotKen Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/MySpace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyspaceGitHub: https://github.comConnect with AdamWebsite: https://nerdy.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/argyleinkConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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The One Rye to Rule Them All w/ Kendall Miller & Rishi Malik
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Kendall Miller and Rishi Malik about their startup Friday Deployment Spirits, and creating whiskey for developers. They discuss the art of making good whiskey, bourbon vs rye, coding in the age of AI, and much more.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(00:53) - Meet Rishi and Kendall(03:01) - Whiskey rating and review: Friday Deployment Generative A Rye(21:27) - Hot take: Is HTML a programming language?(25:56) - Hot Take: Bourbon or Rye?(27:13) - Is deploying on a Friday bad?(37:57) - Payment systems, Web3, and blockchain(45:44) - The art of making whiskey(51:39) - MCP security for the AI age(55:40) - What happened to Chartreuse?(57:26) - PlugsLinksFriday Deployment: https://fridaydeployment.co/CTO Lunches: https://ctolunches.com/Maybe Don't AI: https://www.maybedont.ai/Wolves Whiskey: https://wolveswhiskeyca.com/Heaven Hill Distillery: http://heavenhilldistillery.com/Angels Envy: https://www.angelsenvy.com/Laphroaig: https://www.laphroaig.com/Buffalo Trace: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/Malort: https://malort.com/Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchgWillett: https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/Midwinter Night's Dram: https://highwest.com/pages/a-midwinter-nights-dramChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/Typescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/Brenne Whiskey: https://www.houseofmalt.co.uk/brand/brenne/Seinfeld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeinfeldMad Men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_MenTailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/Office Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_SpaceStripe: https://stripe.com/Privy: https://www.privy.io/Coinbase: https://www.coinbase.com/React: https://react.dev/Venmo: https://venmo.com/Cash App: https://cash.app/Laravel: https://laravel.com/JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScriptjQuery: https://jquery.com/Jim Beam: https://www.jimbeam.com/Fernet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FernetFireball: https://www.fireballwhisky.com/Jagermeister: https://us.jagermeister.com/Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/Aviation Gin: https://www.aviationgin.com/Ryan Reynolds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_ReynoldsCostco: https://www.costco.com/Boodles Gin: https://boodlesgin.com/Tanqueray: https://www.tanqueray.com/en-rowThe Botanist Gin: https://www.thebotanist.com/Connect with KendallLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kendallamiller/Connect with RishiLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rishilmalik/Connect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Father's Day Drinking w/ Typecraft
This week, Robbie talks with Typecraft about the chaotic joys of fatherhood, the realities of raising twins, and various dad-related hot takes. They also discuss their tech carries and conference talks, including Typecraft's Vim nerdery and Robbie’s sarcastic ode to underappreciated HTML features.In this episode:(00:00) - Intro(02:05) - Beer selections(03:11) - Newborns and parenting(07:34) - Robbie's transition to HashiCorp(12:11) - Home ownership and the volatile housing market(15:19) - Hot Take: tall socks vs ankle socks(16:41) - Hot Take: New Balance vs Nike(17:29) - Hot Take: gas vs charcoal grills(18:41) - Efficient scheduling as parents(20:09) - Education costs(23:24) - Hot Take: parking forward vs backward(24:13) - Hot Take: baseball vs football(25:59) - The real point of golf(28:39) - The chaotic joys of parenting(33:05) - Big Sky Dev Con and other confs(34:55) - Typecraft's Big Sky talk(39:26) - Robbie's Big Sky talk(42:02) - The state of AI in coding(58:46) - Black Mirror and Star Trek(01:00:16) - PlugsLinksAaron Francis: https://x.com/aarondfrancisMichelob Ultra: https://www.michelobultra.com/Sip of Sunshine IPA: https://www.lawsonsfinest.com/beer/sip-sunshine/Apple Watch: https://www.apple.com/watch/Claude: https://claude.aiAmazon: https://amazon.comHashiCorp: https://www.hashicorp.com/IBM: https://www.ibm.com/Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/PHP: https://www.php.net/Bitcoin: https://bitcoin.org/en/Target: https://www.target.com/New Balance: https://www.newbalance.com/Nike: https://www.nike.com/Big Green Egg: https://biggreenegg.com/ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/React Miami: https://www.reactmiami.com/Rails World: https://rubyonrails.org/world/Primeagen: https://x.com/ThePrimeagenVim: https://www.vim.org/Robert Beene: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beene/Teladoc: https://www.teladochealth.com/Typecraft on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@typecraft_devGoogle: https://google.comVS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/OpenAI: https://openai.comART19: https://art19.com/Gamma: http://gamma.app/Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/Next.js: https://nextjs.org/Astro: https://astro.build/Neovim: https://neovim.io/Avante: https://github.com/yetone/avante.nvimClaude Code: https://www.anthropic.com/claude-codeTypescript: https://www.typescriptlang.org/ES6: https://www.w3schools.com/js/js_es6.aspAnthropic: https://www.anthropic.comReact: https://react.dev/DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/Black Mirror: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2085059/Star Trek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_TrekConnect with TypecraftWebsite: https://typecraft.dev/X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_devConnect with Chuck and RobbieRobbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagnerChuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rdSubscribe and stay in touchWebsite: https://whiskey.fmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDfOvercast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnotWhiskey Web and Whatnot MerchEnjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Over Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat
Veteran web developers RobbieTheWagner and Charles William Carpenter III host this informal, whiskey-fueled fireside chat with your favorite web devs. They discuss all things web development including JavaScript, TypeScript, EmberJS, React, Astro, SolidJS, CSS, HTML, Web3, and more. They take a unique approach and focus on getting to know the human side of developers and their hobbies outside of work, all while sampling a new whiskey that they rate on their unique tentacle scale.
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