It Shipped That Way

• Chat Isn’t Automation, with Zapier’s first PM, Chris Geoghegan

  Zapier’s first PM and now VP of Product Chris Geoghegan joins us to discuss the relationship between deterministic and LLM-powered automations, scaling a transparent and fully-remote company from millions in revenue to hundreds of millions, whether PM roles are becoming more or less important today, disrupting yourself before anybody else does, and the value of knowing SQL.<ul> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisgeoghegan/">Chris Geoghegan</a> on LinkedIn</li> <li><a href="https://maven.com/p/0a96cb/cursor-isn-t-just-for-coding-how-ai-native-p-ms-work">Cursor for PMs course</a> from Tal Raviv</li> </ul> Have feedback for the show? Send an email or message to Allen any time. It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

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• Winning is Fun, with Jane App Co-founder Trevor Johnston

  Jane App Co-Founder & Co-CEO Trevor Johnston shares lessons from building a vertical SaaS that now serves hundreds of thousands of clinicians worldwide. We discuss the geometric power of referrals, obsessing over churn, turning your customers into your salespeople, scaling product engineering past Dunbar’s number, transcending a Rails monolith, and finding the fun in 6 hours of Zoom meetings.<ul> <li><a href="https://jane.app">Jane App</a></li> </ul> Have feedback for the show? Send an email or message to Allen any time. It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

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• Making Email Wonderful, with Superhuman’s Lorilyn McCue

  Lorilyn McCue, head of AI product at Superhuman, joins to share what she’s learned building LLM-powered products. She talks about how Superhuman executes on shipping delightful software, how to pursue both attention to detail and rapid iteration, optimizing your roadmap for learning, questions that are surprisingly easy (and hard) for LLMs, evaluation and testing of AI-powered features, and ruthlessly prioritizing the user.<ul> <li>The <a href="https://blog.superhuman.com/">Superhuman Blog</a></li> </ul> Have feedback for the show? Send an email or message to Allen any time. It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

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• Building What Customers Need, with Milun Tesovic

  Milun Tesovic, founder of Metrolyrics, Cmd, and Gitalytics – and now Parter at Expa – shares lessons learned building startups. We talk about building the largest lyrics site in the world, turning organizational dysfunction into startup ideas, solving problems without making people change their behaviour, getting acquired by Github a month after launch, making early hires on a product team, and how to get a great domain with one weird trick.<ul> <li><a href="https://expa.com/">expa.com</a></li> </ul> Have feedback for the show? Send an email or message to Allen any time. It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

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• Solving Impossible Problems, with The Browser Company’s Dolapo Falola

  The Browser Company’s Head Of Engineering, Dolapo Falola, shares lessons from Google, Facebook, and Slack, and how they’ve informed his leadership of the team building Arc. He shares about the rush to launch Stories at Meta, reinventing the browser with Arc, finding work that energizes people vs. finding people energized by the work, “working out loud” for velocity, the challenge of bringing Arc to Windows, rewarding complexity vs. business impact, and playing the long game to hire exceptional talent.<ul> <li><a href="https://dolapo.io/">dolapo.io</a></li> <li><a href="https://arc.net/">The Arc Browser</a></li> </ul> Have feedback for the show? Send an email or message to Allen any time. It Shipped That Way is supported by Steamclock Software and Forestwalk Labs.

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