Matters of Experience

What happens when a museum treats its floor like a laboratory? In this episode of Matters of Experience, we sit down with Allyson Feeney, Senior Project Director at the Exploratorium in San Francisco, to explore how experimentation, storytelling, and spatial design come together in one of the world’s most iconic interactive museums. Allyson takes us behind the scenes of the museum’s Time Corridor renovation, sharing how her team reimagined the balance between hands-on interactives and powerful visual storytelling.

If you’ve ever ridden an elevator, zipped a jacket, watched IMAX, or tapped a touchscreen, you’ve experienced the legacy of a World’s Fair—whether you knew it or not. In this episode of Matters of Experience, hosts Abby and Brenda Cowan welcome Charles Pappas, one of the world’s leading authorities on World Expos, to uncover how these massive, temporary gatherings quietly shaped everyday life.
From the Crystal Palace of 1851 London to Dubai, Osaka, and beyond, Charles traces the evolution of World’s Fairs through what he calls three eras: products, progress, and panic. Along the way, he reveals how expos introduced groundbreaking technologies, redefined optimism during global crises, and now confront urgent environmental challenges. The conversation explores why these events function as powerful engines of cultural exchange, national identity, and human connection—something no digital platform can fully replace.
With vivid stories about iconic monuments like the Eiffel Tower, immersive pavilion design, and moments of pure serendipity, this episode is a love letter to shared, in-person experience—and a compelling argument for why the World Expo still matters today.

Designer and creative leader Lucy Holmes traces a life shaped by letters and by people. From hand drawing alphabets at RISD to orchestrating typographic rhythm through major museums, she reveals how the most resonant design often disappears so visitors can be fully with the work. Holmes describes turning words upside down to see relationships rather than read them, printing and pinning, tracing and testing, until a single word on a wall feels inevitable. Designing permanent galleries means thinking in decades, choosing people and stories over brittle technology. The result is quiet clarity, composed for the present and built to meet the future.

Creative designer and AI educator Marlena Emig reveals how artificial intelligence is revolutionizing the exhibition design process, not by replacing human creativity, but by amplifying it. She discusses how AI has transformed the painful constraints of pitch deadlines into opportunities for deeper research and richer storytelling, allowing designers to iterate freely and course-correct without fear. Most provocatively, she argues that clients are already ahead of creative agencies in embracing these tools, seeking dialogue and variety over polished perfection. This conversation illuminates a future where technology serves human imagination rather than supplanting it.

Light carves stories from darkness, transforming spaces into emotional journeys that transcend mere illumination. Abigail Honor and Brenda Cowan explore the sculptural art of lighting design with Steven Rosen, founder of Available Light and recipient of the Edison Report’s Lifetime Achievement Award.
From his theatrical roots to museum environments, Steven reveals how lighting designers serve as storytelling enablers—elevating narratives through orchestrated moments of revelation and concealment. The conversation explores the balance between presence and absence of light, collaborative design processes, and Steven’s work co-founding SEGD’s Museum Exhibition Professional Practice Group during challenging times for cultural institutions.