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• Sri Manda (Peloton): From Gatekeeper to Innovator: How CISOs Can Harness Startup Power

  In this episode of Reinvent Security, we dive into the world of cybersecurity innovation with Sri Manda, the Chief Security and Trust Officer at Peloton. Sri brings a unique perspective—he’s not only a seasoned security leader in e-commerce, content creation, and IoT manufacturing, but also an active advisor to cybersecurity startups, venture capital, and private equity.In our conversation, Sri shares why modern CISOs must wear multiple hats: part technologist, part risk manager, part business strategist, and part mentor. He details how he distinguishes genuine innovation from marketing hype, how to set up effective proof-of- concept criteria to evaluate emerging solutions, and why he believes in building “incubation labs” inside the enterprise.Key highlights include: From Reactive to Proactive: Sri’s personal stories on why cybersecurity must move beyond mere compliance toward enabling secure, fast-paced innovation. Startup-Enterprise Partnership: Criteria and red flags for CISOs looking to leverage new market entrants, plus how entrepreneurs can refine their pitch. Reinventing the CISO Role: The shift from gatekeeper to strategic leader—communicating in business terms, fostering a culture of collaboration, and building resilience. Future-Facing Tech: How AI, automation, and next-gen computing are shaping tomorrow’s security tools, and what Peloton is doing to stay ahead.If you’re ready to explore the cutting edge of cybersecurity—balancing bold new ideas with enterprise-grade governance—this episode is for you. Sri’s real-world experiences, from forging deeper connections with startups to bridging business objectives and risk management, offer a blueprint for CISOs everywhere.Chapters:Resources & Mentions: Peloton’s multifaceted business model: Content, IoT, e-commerce, and apps. The value of an MBA for cybersecurity leaders: bridging financials and technology. Incubation labs: a practical approach to vet, test, and adopt innovative solutions. Book Recommendation: Having Effective Conversations (for tough stakeholderdiscussions).Connect with Sri: https://www.linkedin.com/in/srimanda/Subscribe to this channel to find all new episodes:https://youtube.com/@reinventsecurity?feature=sharedListen on:Spotify: https://ap.lc/SzTrYApple Podcasts: https://ap.lc/HmXhfFOLLOW ►Jeroen PrinseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jprinse/Irfaan Santoe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irfaansantoe/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Esther Schagen-van Luit (Microsoft): "Security leadership requires courage and curiosity"

  Join hosts Jeroen Prinse and Irfaan Santoe in this episode of re:invent security as they sit down with Esther Schagen-van Luit to explore what it truly means to be a Strategic CISO in today’s security landscape. Esther is a well-known cybersecurity leader and advocate for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. With years of experience advising and working alongside CISOs across various sectors, she brings a sharp, candid perspective on the disconnect between tactical security operations and the strategic needs of modern organizations. In this episode, Esther unpacks:• The common traps that keep CISOs stuck in operational mode• What separates a strategic CISO from the rest—mindset, skillset, and influence• How organizational readiness (or lack thereof) impacts a CISO’s ability to lead at the strategic level• Why aligning security with digital transformation is non-negotiable• And how DEI plays a real role in shaping stronger, smarter security leadership Esther doesn’t just talk about the role of the CISO—she challenges the assumptions around it. She shares what it takes to grow into strategic leadership, even in environments that aren’t quite ready for it, and why security professionals must be ready to challenge how value is measured and communicated. Known for her clear thinking and no-nonsense delivery, Esther reminds us that strategy isn’t about sitting at the executive table—it’s about speaking the language of the business and helping shape its future. Whether you’re a current CISO, an aspiring one, or someone who works closely with security leadership, this episode offers a grounded, honest look at the evolution of the role—and how to push it forward.Chapters:00:00 - 04:09 - Introduction of the episode and Esther Schagen van Luit 4:10 - 07:32 Reinventing security and being a driving force for good.07:33 - 9:32 What are the key differences between an operational, tactical and strategical CISO?09:33 - 12:15 What are operational and tactical CISO's lacking?12:16 - 14:20 Strategic security visions requires curiosity14:21 - 15:56 What is holding organizations back to embrace a strategical CISO?15:57 - 19:33 - What are the most important skills to become a strategical security leader?19:34 - 22:07 Example of a security leader who was successfull in aligning business objectives and security strategy22:08 - 25:00 Don't sell winter coats in the summer25:01 - 26:42 The difference between regulated and unregulated organizations26:43 - 33:21 What are the tell tale signs that an organizations is not ready for a strategical CISO?33:22 - 42:00 What are some practical/high impact steps to create high performing security teams?42:01 - 43:00 What is the one piece of advise you would like to give security leaders?43:01 - 46:28 What resources does Esther recommend to level up strategic thinking?46:29 - 52:21 Key take aways Irfaan and JeroenResources:Connect with Esther: https://www.linkedin.com/in/estherschagenvanluit/ Subscribe to this channel to find all new episodes:https://youtube.com/@reinventsecurity?feature=sharedListen on:Spotify: https://ap.lc/SzTrYApple Podcasts: https://ap.lc/HmXhfFOLLOW ►Jeroen PrinseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jprinse/Irfaan Santoe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irfaansantoe/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Carlo Alexander Schreurs (FrieslandCampina): "As a CISO, how do you lead in a Human-Centered way?"

  In this episode, we talk with Carlo Alexander Schreurs, CISO of FrieslandCampina, about his journey of reinvention after surgery and his transition into a transformational CISO role. He advocates for moving from rigid "zero trust" to a more flexible "adaptive trust" model, better suited to digital transformation. Carlo emphasizes cultural shifts in cybersecurity, highlighting storytelling, collaboration, and psychological safety to build trust and resilience. He also stresses integrating cybersecurity with business goals, going beyond compliance to drive innovation. The episode wraps up with practical advice for CISOs on staying agile in a fast-changing landscape.Chapters:00:00 - 03:14 Introduction of the episode03:15 - 06:26 Carlo reinventing himself 06:27 - 09:36 Reimagining Traditional Security09:37 - 14:16 The Drama Triangle vs. The Winner's Triangle 14:16 - 17:41 From Zero Trust to Digital/Adaptive Trust 17:42 - 23:00 The Role of Trust and Loyalty 23:01 - 26:15 The CISO as Storyteller 26:16 - 32:55 Shifting from Risk Avoidance to Value Creation 32:56 - 43:45 Human Factors and Behavioral Insights 43:46 - 45:44 Reframing Cyber Security 45:45 - 55:34 Compliance Theater 55: 35 - 58:03 Practical Steps for Agile and Adaptable Programs58:04 - 1:02:56 Key takeaways Jeroen & IrfaanResourcesDrama triangle to winner triangle:article 1: Life threw a curveball at me - on human-centric transformationsarticle 2: Beating the drama in Cybersecurity and Technology teams: uncovering hidden dynamics that drain energy and prohibit growtharticle 3: Beating the drama in cybersecurity and IT: How to shift from drama triangle to TED and build a thriving teamarticle 4: Cybersecurity Transformation: The Power of Human-Centered Leadership Storytelling: The Hidden Skill Every CISO or CIO Needs, But Few Use (On storytelling)Other source: The Cyber Samurai—Forging a Black Belt in the Digital DojoConnect with Carlo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schreursc/Subscribe to this channel to find all new episodes:https://youtube.com/@reinventsecurity?feature=sharedFOLLOW ►Jeroen PrinseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jprinse/Irfaan Santoe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irfaansantoe/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Dimitri van Zantvliet (NS): “Securing Dutch Railways Amid Geopolitical Turmoil”

  Join hosts Jeroen Prinse and Irfaan Santoe in this episode of Reinvent Security as they sit down with Dimitri van Zantvliet as they talk about the challenges of securing critical infrastructure and OT at the Dutch Railways. Especially in time of geopolitical turmoil and hybrid warfare.Dimitri van Zantvliet is an accomplished leader in information security currently serving as the CISO of Dutch Railways (Nederlandse Spoorwegen). Dimitri is at the forefront of protecting one of the Netherlands’ most vital transportation networks against an ever-evolving landscape of cyber threats.His leadership has been instrumental in addressing the unique challenges of securing critical infrastructure in an era marked by hybrid warfare and complex geopolitical dynamics. Known for his bold and innovative perspectives, Dimitri emphasizes in this podcast that the “C” in CISO stands for Change—highlighting the role of security leaders as agents of transformation within organizations. He has also spoken about the disruptive potential of artificial intelligence, warning that AI is a “Weapon of Mass Disruption”.Dimitri’s expertise extends beyond technology into organizational culture, promoting resilience, adaptability, and collaboration as key components of effective cybersecurity. He is a sought-after speaker and thought leader, sharing insights on topics such as hybrid warfare, OT security, and the future of cybersecurity leadership. Under his guidance, Dutch Railways is not only defending its operations from cyber threats but also setting an example for how critical infrastructure operators can adapt and thrive in a rapidly changing world.Chapters:00:00 - 08:13 Introduction of the episode and Dimitri van Zantvliet08:14 - 17:05 The Dutch Railways, their Information Security team and team diversity17:06 - 21:29 The unique challenges of securing OT and critical infrastructure21:30 - 26:44 How does the threat landscape differ when securing critical infrastructure?26:45 - 29:59 Threat actors, influence of geopolitics and hybrid (digital) warfare30:00 - 34:10 Regulation on the security of critical infrastructure34:11 - 38:54 What can the IT security professionals learn from the OT security professionals?38:55 - 42:21 Supply chain security, procurement and information security42:22 - 45:29 What is the most exciting part of the "AI revolution"?45:30 - 50:11 Early adoption, curiosity, business enablement and innovation as security leaders50:12 - 55:39 The development of CISO Community Nederland55:40 - 1:01:09 The evolution of security leadership roles1:01:10 - 1:02:16 Wrapping Up1:02:17 - 1:06:55 Key takeaways Jeroen & IrfaanResourcesWerken bij de NS (https://www.werkenbijns.nl/vacatures)Black-out (https://npo.nl/start/serie/black-out_1/seizoen-1/blackout)CISO Community Nederland (https://www.cisocommunity.nl/)Connect with Dimitri: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanzantvliet/Subscribe to this channel to find all new episodes:https://youtube.com/@reinventsecurity?feature=sharedListen on:Spotify: https://ap.lc/SzTrYApple Podcasts: https://ap.lc/HmXhfFOLLOW ►Jeroen PrinseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jprinse/Irfaan Santoe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irfaansantoe/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Dr. Nikki Robinson (IBM) on Effective Vulnerability Management: Beyond Tools, Towards People

  In this episode of Reinvent Security, we dive deep into the world of vulnerability management with Dr. Nikki Robinson, a distinguished cybersecurity expert, author, and educator. With years of experience in IT operations and cybersecurity, Dr. Robinson brings a unique perspective to managing vulnerabilities in today’s ever-evolving threat landscape. During the episode, Dr. Robinson shares her journey from IT operations to earning a doctorate in cybersecurity, highlighting the pivotal moments that shaped her approach to vulnerability management. She emphasizes the importance of looking beyond patching to address the broader aspects of risk reduction, including human factors, automation, and AI. Whether you are a seasoned cybersecurity professional or someone looking to strengthen your organization’s approach to vulnerabilities, this episode is packed with actionable insights and strategies. As a bonus, Dr. Robinson shares her thoughts on the differences between vulnerability management practices in the U.S. and Europe, and how global frameworks like NIST are fostering consistency across borders.Chapters:0:00 Introduction4:31 Nikki’s Journey in Cybersecurity7:57 Defining Vulnerability Management10:35 Key takeaways from her book on Effective Vulnerability Management22:00 First Steps to Mature Vulnerability Management29:10 Prioritizing Vulnerabilities Beyond CVSS Scores32:30 Automation in Vulnerability Management39:15 Governance and Vulnerability Management44:20 Key TakeawaysResources:Dr. Nikki Robinson’s books: Effective Vulnerability Management and Mind the Tech GapSecurity Fatigue: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361595380_Stress_Burnout_and_Security_Fatigue_in_Cybersecurity_A_Human_Factors_ProblemHuman Factors Security Engineering: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/07366981.2023.2211429Human Factors in Cybersecurity: https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3537674.3555782Vulnerability Chaining Blog parts 1 and 2: https://blog.stackaware.com/p/vulnerability-chaining-part-1-a-logical Connect with Nikki: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-nikki-robinson/Subscribe to this channel to find all new episodes:https://youtube.com/@reinventsecurity?feature=sharedListen on:Spotify: https://ap.lc/SzTrYApple Podcasts: https://ap.lc/HmXhfFOLLOW ►Jeroen PrinseLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jprinse/Irfaan Santoe:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irfaansantoe/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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