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Director of National Intelligence Jay Clayton has been picked to serve as AI czar, leading a “Super Intelligence Force” to address growing concerns about AI. Meanwhile, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is suggesting people “accept some bad things” in exchange for the benefits of AI. Professor, columnist, author, and happiness expert Arthur Brooks counsels AI users to retain control of their relationships in the AI era, and Senator Chris Coons (D-DE) discusses potential AI regulation. Plus, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent goes on the record about the bond market, nearly 200 were hospitalized in Siberia after exposure to the plague, and elections in Brazil and Spain are coming in the next month amid unrest in each country.

Arthur Brooks - 11:58
Sen. Chris Coons - 22:45

In this episode:
Arthur Brooks, @arthurbrooks
Sen. Chris Coons, @ChrisCoons
Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk
Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick
Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin
Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie

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Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen wrote a memoir of her time at Facebook, during which she leaked documents to The Wall Street Journal to shed light on what (and when) Facebook knew about the potential harms of its algorithms. The memoir is now part of the basis for “The Social Reckoning,” a film designed as a follow up to “The Social Network.” Frances Haugen herself explains how the world of AI is different from that of social media, and the role big tech can play in self regulation on both. Plus, former MTV CEO Michael Wolf discusses the $110B merger of Paramount Warner Bros, expected to close soon, Anthropic’s IPO could be coming before Thanksgiving, and OpenAI’s ChatGPT wants to help you shop.

Frances Haugen - 15:12
Michael Wolf - 28:25

In this episode:
Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk
Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick
Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin
Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie

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Google is the latest tech giant to release its own AI agent as concerns about AI safety persist both inside and outside the tech industry. Elon Musk biographer, professor, and student of history Walter Isaacson discusses the AI doomsday narrative and the personality clashes behind the AI headlines. Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky weighs in on the future of AI agents, including his own efforts to build one and the larger rhetoric problem that Silicon Valley has, when it comes to AI. Chesky issues a wake up call to his fellow tech leaders. Plus, Mattel CEO Ynon Kreiz is moving to Paramount-WBD, and Foundayo’s latest trial results made good news for Eli Lilly.

Walter Isaacson - 18:31
Brian Chesky - 33:37

In this episode:
Brian Chesky, @bchesky
Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk
Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick
Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin
Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie

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After President Trump hosted tech and AI leaders at the White House on Tuesday, the group ultimately agreed to an “Accord on Super Intelligence.” Director of National Intelligence Jay Clayton, in the room for the meeting, discusses the significance of the accord and liability issues for AI. While Axios has reported that Jay Clayton could be one of President Trump’s candidates for AI Czar, Clayton is focused on the outcomes of Tuesday’s meeting. Author of “The Infinity Machine” Sebastian Mallaby weighs in on the accord as well, addressing Dario Amodei’s relationship with the President and the friction between innovation and safety in the world of artificial–or super–intelligence.

Sebastian Mallaby - 19:56
Jay Clayton - 31:12

In this episode:
Sebastian Mallaby, @scmallaby
Joe Kernen, @JoeSquawk
Becky Quick, @BeckyQuick
Andrew Ross Sorkin, @andrewrsorkin
Katie Kramer, @Kramer_Katie

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One week after a friendly summit between Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Donald Trump, CNBC details an aggressive plot by China to infiltrate one of the United States’ most important institutions: the Federal Reserve. This explosive documentary delves into the incredible saga of a Chinese spy's effort to obtain secrets from the inner confines of the US top bank. It's a tale of sex, money, deceit and betrayal that put some of the country’s vital economic and financial secrets at risk. With exclusive access to new documents, audio, photos and text messages, CNBC's Senior Washington Correspondent Eamon Javers uncovers the story of former Fed economist John Rogers and a Chinese spy posing as an economics student who he befriended in 2013. “Inside Man” is a spy story at the heart of the competition for global economic dominance, posing the question of whether Rogers was a spy himself or an unwitting dupe.

Watch the full documentary, read the article and explore excerpts from Rogers’ text message history here: cnbc.com/insideman

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