The Accounting Podcast

• Firms Using AI Make More $, PCAOB Shutdown Fight, The Impossible Tariff Test

  Could AI create a $20 trillion professional services earthquake? In this episode, Blake and David dive into the data showing that AI firms generate $45,000 more revenue per employee than non-adopters. You'll discover how AI is reshaping traditional accounting and what Claude's new ability to connect with your Gmail and calendar means for productivity. They also demonstrate how indistinguishable AI-cloned voices have become, sharing practical tips to protect yourself and clients from increasingly sophisticated voice scams. Plus, hear why the "impossible" US customs broker exam (with its shocking 4% pass rate) might offer accountants a lucrative alternative career path as tariff disputes heat up.SponsorsOnPay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/onpay Bluevine - http://accountingpodcast.promo/bluevine (Bluevine is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking Services provided by Coastal Community Bank, Member FDIC.)   Reframe - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025 Payhawk - http://accountingpodcast.promo/payhawkChapters(00:37) - The Impact of AI on Accounting Firms (02:04) - Voice AI Scams and Protection Tips (03:34) - Legislative Updates and Industry News (05:44) - Live Stream Shoutouts and Sponsor Acknowledgements (06:50) - AI in Accounting: Revenue and Efficiency Insights (14:01) - AI Voice Cloning Demonstration (16:29) - Protecting Against AI Voice Scams (24:12) - AI's Impact on Work and Productivity (32:32) - AI in Tax and Accounting Firms (38:19) - Success in Contract Drafting (38:43) - Starbucks' Automation Reversal (41:07) - AI and Productivity Gains (53:58) - The Great Legacy Extinction (01:08:58) - The Impossible Tariff Test (01:13:09) - Private Equity in Accounting Firms (01:16:03) - Conclusion and CPE Credits  Show NotesFirms with AI report higher per-employee revenue vs othershttps://www.accountingtoday.com/news/firms-with-ai-report-higher-per-employee-revenue-vs-othersNine Ways to Protect Yourself from 'Impostor' Voice Scams https://www.magzter.com/stories/newspaper/The-Wall-Street-Journal/NINE-WAYS-TO-PROTECT-YOURSELF-FROM-IMPOSTOR-VOICE-SCAMSDanish study challenges claims about AI disrupting the labor market https://getcoai.com/news/danish-study-challenges-claims-about-ai-disrupting-the-labor-market/50% of finance teams still take over a week to close the books https://www.cfo.com/news/50-of-finance-take-week-to-close-books-ledge-month-end-close-time-cfo-three-day-close-myth-/746085/The Great Legacy Extinction: AI's $20T Takeover of Professional Services https://www.venrock.com/insights/insights-technology/the-great-legacy-extinction-ais-20t-takeover-of-professional-services/What Do You Think of the New PwC Logo? https://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/04/30/what-do-you-think-of-the-new-pwc-logo/159946/Big Four accounting firm PwC to slash about 1,500 jobs in the US https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/accounting-firm-pwc-cut-1500-us-jobs-ft-reports-2025-05-05/How are different accounting firms using AI? https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/blog/how-do-different-accounting-firms-use-ai/Customs Broker License Exam (CBLE)https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-administration/customs-brokers/license-examination-notice-examinationNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring the Cloud Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsREFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025Want to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to create your classified ad: https://cloudacctpod.link/RunClassifiedAdTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is ...

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• Ramp Wants to Be the Federal Spend Card, Interview with Mark Koziel

  Could you spend years earning your CPA license only to be told you can't use it? In this episode, Mark Koziel, president of the AICPA, joins Blake and David to discuss the shocking trend of firms prohibiting CPAs from identifying themselves as such in emails, on business cards, and even on LinkedIn. Blake and David also explore the economic uncertainty created by Trump's tariff policies, with major corporations cutting costs and delaying investments. Plus, learn about Republican plans to eliminate the PCAOB, the wave of states creating alternative CPA pathways, and why Ramp could become the federal government's spend management platform.SponsorsOnPay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/onpayBluevine - http://accountingpodcast.promo/bluevine (Bluevine is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking Services provided by Coastal Community Bank, Member FDIC.) Cloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casRoboDebit - http://accountingpodcast.promo/robodebitChapters(01:13) - Top News Stories of the Week (04:18) - Ramp's Ambitious Federal Government Plans (14:04) - Republican Plans to Scrap PCAOB (17:56) - Impact of Tariffs on Major Corporations (28:45) - IRS Leadership Changes (32:31) - Private Equity's New Accounting Firm (36:03) - CPA Pipeline Updates: Tennessee, Texas, and Indiana (37:46) - Republicans and the Millionaire Tax Idea (40:20) - Interview with Mark Koziel: CPA Title Controversy (01:06:36) - Fun Facts: The Cost of Replacing the Pope (01:08:43) - Earn Free CPE on Earmark  Show NotesTrump Team Eyes Politically Connected Startup to Overhaul $700 Billion Government Payments Programhttps://www.propublica.org/article/trump-peter-thiel-ramp-gsa-smartpay-expense-payment-system Big 4 Alum Start Their Own Thing Hoping Clients Want Something Different and Conflict-Freehttps://www.goingconcern.com/big-4-alum-start-their-own-thing-hoping-clients-want-something-different-and-conflict-free/ Texas passes CPA law as push to lower licensure barrier gains steamhttps://www.cfodive.com/news/broadening-cpa-licensure-paths-marching-beyond-150-hour-rule-accounting-talent-shortage/745282/ Draft bill would eliminate PCAOBhttps://www.accountingtoday.com/news/draft-bill-would-eliminate-pcaob-empower-sec Why The IRS Went Through 4 Acting Commissioners In 3 Monthshttps://abovethelaw.com/2025/04/why-the-irs-went-through-4-acting-commissioners-in-3-months/ 'Hard no': Millionaire tax hike proposal has House Republicans dividedhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/hard-no-millionaire-tax-hike-proposal-has-house-republicans-divided Tariffs and global trade: The economic impact on businesshttps://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/geopolitics/our-insights/tariffs-and-global-trade-the-economic-impact-on-business Firms with AI report higher per-employee revenuehttps://www.accountingtoday.com/news/firms-with-ai-report-higher-per-employee-revenue-vs-others The mysterious donor who paid for Pope Francis' funeralhttps://en.ara.cat/misc/the-mysterious-donor-who-paid-for-pope-francis-funeral_1_5357026.htmlNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring the Cloud Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.Need Accounting Conference Info? Check out our new website - accountingconferences.comLimited edition shirts, stickers, and other necessitiesTeePublic Store: http://cloudacctpod.link/merchSubscribeApple Podcasts: http://cloudacctpod.link/ApplePodcastsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAccountingPodcastSpotify: http://cloudacctpod.link/SpotifyPodchaser: http://cloudacctpod.link/podchaserStitcher: http://cloudacctpod.link/StitcherOvercast: http://cloudacctpod.link/OvercastClassifiedsREFRAME 2025 - http://accountingpodcast.promo/reframe2025Want to get the word out about your newsletter, webinar, party, Facebook group, podcast, e-book, job posting, or that fancy Excel macro you just created? Let the listeners of The Accounting Podcast know by running a classified ad. Go here to create your classified ad: https://cloudacctpod.link/RunClassifiedAdTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top o...

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• Debits, Credits and Sniper Rifles: Reviewing the Accounting in The Accountant

  In this bonus episode, David teams up with Caleb and Zach from Oh My Fraud to unpack the 2016 film The Accountant. Together, they explore how Hollywood portrays forensic accounting, internal controls, and what happens when your auditor brings a thermos full of sniper parts.Connect with David and Caleb https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlearyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/calebnewquistOh My Fraud Episodes mentioned in this episode https://ohmyfraud.com/episodes/the-fraud-came-first-remembering-crazy-eddie-with-gary-weisshttps://ohmyfraud.com/episodes/meet-the-fraudster-nathan-muellerhttps://ohmyfraud.com/episodes/blow-the-whistle-with-jason-zuckerman-and-matt-stockNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comTranscriptsThe full transcript for this episode is available by clicking on the Transcript tab at the top of this page

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• AI Spreadsheets, IRS Mass Resignations, Recession Signs

  Could AI be doing a day's work in just minutes for accountants? In this episode, Blake and David explore how accounting technology is revolutionizing traditional workflows, from Xero's new AI protocol that connects chatbots directly to accounting data, to Google's game-changing "I" function in Sheets that lets you analyze data with natural language. You'll discover why deep research tools might replace entire teams of analysts and why revealing your AI usage might actually hurt your professional reputation. Plus, hear about unusual recession indicators (men's underwear sales are down!), what Americans consider financial success versus reality, and why accountants everywhere are buzzing about Baker Tilly's merger with Moss Adams. Whether you're curious about automating journal entries or simply wondering if you should disclose your AI wizardry, this episode delivers practical insights for the modern finance professional.SponsorsPayhawk - http://accountingpodcast.promo/payhawkRelay - http://accountingpodcast.promo/relayCloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casRoboDebit - http://accountingpodcast.promo/robodebitChapters(00:00) - Introduction and Podcast Overview (00:39) - App News and Intuit Updates (07:53) - Intuit's AI and Bitcoin Controversy (11:10) - Xero Innovations (20:16) - Paychex Acquires Paycor (21:11) - Flowcast's AI Agents (25:17) - Pipe Acquires Glean AI (26:28) - Google Sheets AI Formula (34:30) - Google Agent Space (42:29) - AI's Impact on High-Level Jobs (43:12) - Testing AI with Investment Analysis (44:25) - Mother Road Brewery Investment Evaluation (49:31) - Canva's New Sheets Feature (54:31) - Google's Monopoly and Data Breach News (58:22) - AI Disclosure in the Workplace (01:05:51) - Mega Merger of Accounting Firms (01:11:26) - Signs of a Recession (01:17:45) - Upcoming Events and CPE Opportunities  Show NotesAccelerating Money Innovation with Deserve Technology Platform and Talenthttps://www.intuit.com/blog/news-social/accelerating-money-innovation-with-deserve-technology-platform-and-talent/ WARNING: Quickbooks Checkinghttps://quickbooks.intuit.com/learn-support/en-us/banking/warning-quickbooks-checking/00/1516063 Green Dot considers sale as CEO exitshttps://www.paymentsdive.com/news/green-dot-citi-strategic-review-sale-ceo-exit-gresham/742096/ Intuit Enterprise Suite Spring update features more efficient multi-entity accounting, enhanced reporting, and morehttps://quickbooks.intuit.com/r/enterprise/intuit-enterprise-suite-spring-2025-release-notes/ Strive targets Intuit for Bitcoin buys after orange-pilling GameStophttps://cointelegraph.com/news/strive-targets-intuit-bitcoin-buys-after-gamestop Xero Rolls Out New "Reconcile Period" Featurehttps://insightfulaccountant.com/accounting-tech/general-ledger/xero-rolls-out-new-reconcile-period-feature/ Xero introduces new Model Context Protocol server for smarter accountinghttps://devblog.xero.com/xero-introduces-new-model-context-protocol-server-for-smarter-accounting-4d195ccaeda5 Paychex Acquires Paycor in $4.1 Billion Dealhttps://www.pymnts.com/acquisitions/2025/paychex-acquires-paycor-in-4-1-billion-deal/ Introducing FloQast AI Agents: Revolutionizing Accounting Automationhttps://www.floqast.com/blog/introducing-floqast-ai-agents-revolutionizing-accounting-automation Pipe Acquires Glean.ai to Add Spend Management to Suite of Embedded Financial Solutionshttps://pipe.com/resources/press-releases/pipe-acquires-glean-ai-to-add-spend-management-to-suite-of-embedded-financial-solutions​Google Sheets Introduces AI-Powered =AI() Formula for Enhanced Productivity​https://yourstory.com/2025/04/google-sheets-ai-formula-gemini Scale enterprise search and agent adoption with Google Agentspacehttps://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/google-agentspace-enables-the-agent-driven-enterprise Sarah Friar’s LinkedIn Post … https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sarah-friar_what-an-ai-powered-finance-function-of-the-activity-7259765674506399744-IKQD OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar: We are building a lot of IP down into the data center layerhttps://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/03/20/openai-cfo-sarah-friar-we-are-building-a-lot-of-ip-down-into-the-data-center-layer.html Introducing Visual Suite 2.0: Productivity, meet creativityhttps://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/canva-create-2025/ Department of Justice Prevails in Landmark Antitrust Case Against Googlehttps://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-prevails-landmark-antitrust-case-against-google Dark Web Digest – Lessons Learned from the Wolters Kluwer Data Breachhttps://www.purevpn.com/blog/dark-web-digest-issue-4-wolters-kluwer/ New HEC Paris research suggests that shadow adoption of ChatGPT could benefit employees but not the firmshttps://www.hec.edu/en/news-room/new-hec-p...

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• DOGE Proves IRS Can Move 100X Faster Without Red Tape

  What happens when a trade war meets bureaucratic red tape? In this episode, Blake and David dive into the explosive impact of 145% tariffs on Chinese goods and what it means for American businesses' bottom lines. Through real-world examples—from small retailers to tech giants like Apple—they break down how these policies could devastate supply chains and force difficult decisions for companies caught in the crossfire.Meanwhile, the Department of Government Efficiency is shaking up the IRS, transforming a login button change from a 103-day project into a 71-minute fix. But that's not all: CPAs at private equity-owned firms are now being told to remove their credentials from email signatures and LinkedIn profiles. Tune in to understand how these seemingly separate issues reflect larger battles over professional identity, government efficiency, and America's economic future.Sponsors RoboDebit - http://accountingpodcast.promo/robodebitCloud Accountant Staffing - http://accountingpodcast.promo/casBluevine - http://accountingpodcast.promo/bluevine (Bluevine is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking Services provided by Coastal Community Bank, Member FDIC.) Chapters(01:40) - Weekly News Roundup (03:03) - IRS Updates and Controversies (03:59) - Private Equity and CPA Titles (05:08) - Government Efficiency and IRS Hackathon (20:08) - Tariffs and Trade Wars (29:19) - Impact of Tariffs on Businesses (47:55) - Economic Impact of Tariffs and Debt (48:48) - Trump Administration's Strategic Challenges (49:36) - Job Loss Projections Due to Tariffs (52:31) - China's Economic Transformation and Future (56:05) - Human Impact of US-China Trade Policies (01:00:10) - IRS Sharing Tax Information with Homeland Security (01:04:28) - Private Equity's Influence on CPA Firms (01:17:51) - Shopify's AI Hiring Policy (01:30:47) - Conclusion and Announcements  Show NotesDepartment of Government Efficiency – X posting on re-engineering a 103-day projecthttps://x.com/DOGE/status/1910067646827057152DOGE plans now reportedly include an IRS ‘hackathon’https://www.theverge.com/news/644327/musk-doge-irs-hackathon-taxpayer-data-transfer-cloudIRS Workers Get Final Chance to Take Deferred Resignation Offerhttps://www.cpapracticeadvisor.com/2025/04/07/irs-workers-get-final-chance-to-take-deferred-resignation-offer/158668/Appeals Court Clears Path for Trump to Resume Firing ...https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/09/us/politics/trump-federal-workers-firing.htmlElon Musk Secretly Working to Rewrite the Social Security Codebase Using AIhttps://futurism.com/elon-musk-rewriting-social-security-code-aiPentagon hits Accenture, Booz Allen and Deloitte with contract cancellationshttps://www.nextgov.com/acquisition/2025/04/pentagon-hits-accenture-booz-allen-and-deloitte-contract-cancellations/404525/?oref=ng-homepage-riverHere’s the iPhone. Here’s the iPhone With Tariffs.https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/iphone-apple-tariffs-china-bb20c7a3Between tariffs and survival, American business owners are doing alarming mathhttps://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5352833/trump-tariffs-china-manufacturing-businessesAt Home Group, Stung by Trade War, Explores Bankruptcyhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/at-home-group-stung-by-trade-war-explores-bankruptcy-853b9a83How Much Revenue Can Tariffs Really Raise for the Federal Government?https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/universal-tariff-revenue-estimates/IRS agrees to share tax information of undocumented immigrants with Icehttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/08/irs-ice-tax-dataActing IRS commissioner resigning after agency reaches data-sharing deal with immigration authoritieshttps://www.cnn.com/2025/04/08/politics/melanie-krause-acting-irs-commissioner-resigning/index.htmlAccounting firm that sold out to private equity is now requiring CPAs that work for them to stop using "CPA" on their personal LinkedIn and in email signatureshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Accounting/comments/1jx2338/accounting_firm_that_sold_out_to_private_equity/?rdt=47047Shopify CEO: No new hires, unless you prove AI can’t do the jobhttps://thehill.com/policy/technology/5239841-shopify-ceo-ai-first-hiringKPMG’s new AI bot has cut interview scheduling time by almost 60% and saved more than 1,000 hours for the talent acquisition teamhttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/kpmg-ai-bot-cut-interview-121831887.htmlNeed CPE?Get CPE for listening to podcasts with Earmark: https://earmarkcpe.comSubscribe to the Earmark Podcast: https://podcast.earmarkcpe.comGet in TouchThanks for listening and the great reviews! We appreciate you! Follow and tweet @BlakeTOliver and @DavidLeary. Find us on Facebook and Instagram. If you like what you hear, please do us a favor and write a review on Apple Podcasts or Podchaser. Call us and leave a voicemail; maybe we'll play it on the show. DIAL (202) 695-1040.SponsorshipsAre you interested in sponsoring the Cloud Accounting Podcast? For details, read the prospectus.

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