Cloud Wars Live with Bob Evans

In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I analyze the leadership shift at Workday and what it means in the age of agentic AI.
Highlights
00:00 — I want to talk about a change at the top of Workday. And I want to point out somebody who's been a real superstar in this business and that's Workday co-founder, former co-CEO, former CEO, chairman, executive chairman, resigned as CEO, now back in as CEO, Aneel Bhusri.
01:13 — He was going to be the person that ran all the business, the operations. And Aneel said, "I can go back to what I truly love," which is developing products and strategy. Carl Eschenbach left about a week ago. The board asked Bhusri to step back in as CEO, and he's done that. So there's no question that Aneel Bhusri’s first love is products and strategy.
02:24 — He said, “Now, with Carl Eschenbach coming in a couple of years ago, now I can go do this stuff I really love around products and strategy.” It is this thing about never being trained to do it. He's on the board of directors at General Motors, a highly accomplished executive in a lot of ways. Aneel certainly doesn't need the money.
03:13 — How does a company like Workday or Oracle or SAP or Salesforce balance those two things, the enterprise applications that brought them here, and the agentic AI that has to take them forward? Workday, several months ago, announced Workday ERP. From the outside, you've got SAP and Oracle always aggressively trying to go after Workday customers.
03:59 — I want to mention about Aneel, the way he manages. He said, “I've sort of become”— this is when machine learning, ML, was really becoming hot — “I became the Pied Piper of Workday. I was just going around to all the different developers and engineering teams and just asking developers and engineering teams over and over and over again, what are you doing with ML?"
04:56 — And now they've got two great president-level executives at Workday. Rob Enslin and Gerrit Kazmaier. I think it's very likely that about a year from now, Workday will announce that Bhusri is going to become co-CEO and elevate one of those two, Enslin or Kazmaier, to the co-CEO role with him.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I break down the strategic collaboration between AWS and NTT DATA and what it means for enterprise AI transformation.
Highlights
00:02 — AWS and NTT DATA, an IT and business consultancy, have announced a multi-year collaboration agreement aimed at helping enterprise clients modernize legacy systems and adopt responsible agentic AI at scale. The companies are combining capabilities to develop solutions that modernize workloads and accelerate enterprise transformation across four key areas.
00:48 — Those areas are AI-driven large-scale cloud transformation, industry cloud solutions on AWS, AI and data innovation for modern managed services to improve client experiences, and digital sovereignty and regulated cloud solutions, including the AWS European Sovereign Cloud.
01:05 — This is a particularly significant announcement from AWS, because it goes beyond a traditional infrastructure deal and moves into true enterprise transformation. And there's some serious people power involved in this. NTT DATA has founded an AWS business group that already includes nearly 11,000 AWS Certified Experts with plans to add another 10,000.
02:02 — This collaboration is focused on responsible cloud and AI scaling with a firm focus on security governance and regulatory compliance. For me, it's a really strong example of the power of delivery partners.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why the AI revolution isn’t a bubble — it’s backed by unprecedented backlog growth.
Highlights
00:02 — There are some wild numbers being thrown around here early in 2026 as we think about the CapEx investments that the four hyperscalers — Microsoft, AWS, Google Cloud, and Oracle — are making to build up their AI factories, their AI and cloud infrastructure to meet the incredible demand for AI training, inferencing, cloud transformations, business transformations, and more.
01:28 — The money, the huge revenue, is already there, and it’s growing at an incredible pace. That’s why these companies are investing so much, because the market is so enormous, the potential is so huge. This number —$1.63 trillion — that’s the amount of either RPO or backlog combined that those four companies have generated going forward.
02:12 — The RPO backlog figures for each of these companies are: Microsoft, $625 billion, growing at 110%; Oracle, $523 billion, growing at 438%; AWS, $240 billion, up 40%; Google Cloud, $240 billion, growing at 55%. These are very fresh figures from their Q4 earnings results.
03:28 — Microsoft and Google each going to spend about $185 billion in CapEx this fiscal year; AWS, $200 billion; and Oracle, about $75 billion. That totals up to $645 billion dollars in CapEx. The world has never seen anything like this. We’re into unprecedented territory here.
04:39 — That is money that’s chasing this already committed business in RPO and backlog. This is $1.63 trillion. That’s right here, right now — a snapshot of what they already have in backlog. Even if they don’t come anywhere close to those growth rates, they’re still showing extraordinary growth and vitality.

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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert, host and CEO, Dynamic Communities and Cloud Wars, is joined by Jen Harris, CEO of TMC, to explore how AI agents, automation, and mindset shifts are redefining business. Their discussion spans TMC’s acquisition of TMG, leadership in the partner ecosystem, and why reimagining work is critical now, setting the stage for conversations at the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA.
Key Takeaways
AI Requires Commitment, Not Caution: Harris emphasizes that half-measures slow progress more than they reduce risk. Organizations that just try one thing often abandon AI too quickly because early results aren’t perfect. She notes, “You fail first at new things,” adding that true adoption requires patience, leadership backing, and a willingness to accept short-term discomfort for long-term gains.
Solutions Beat Technology Stacks: Customers no longer want disconnected tools; they want outcomes. Harris explains that clients expect partners to “meet them where they are,” combining Power Platform, Azure, data, and AI into real solutions.
Mindset Is the Real Bottleneck: While AI is already embedded in daily life, Harris observes resistance when it enters core business roles. “It’s not quite here yet” is often code for fear of job impact. She challenges leaders to reframe AI as a workload reducer, asking, “What if it would make you less busy?”
Reactive Roles Are Disappearing: Harris highlights a coming shift as agents take over repetitive, reactive work. Professionals who built careers on being indispensable specialists must evolve. People will move toward proactive creation, strategy, and value generation.
Human Connection Still Matters: Despite rapid automation, Harris stresses that humanity isn’t going away. Reflecting on in-person events, she says, “Look at you — you came out of your offices on a cold day, and we’re talking.” AI may scale intelligence, but trust, inspiration, and shared understanding still comes from people.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I explain why unified security strategies are essential in the GenAI Era.
Highlights
00:08 — One of the cornerstones of AI adoption is security. It’s essential to get it right the first time and not backtrack, because compared to the security risks of the past, AI tools and the vast swathes of sensitive data they leverage are in a league of their own.
00:25 — To mitigate these risks, organizations need to ensure that the pace of their security measures matches that of AI innovation. Now, the 2026 Microsoft Data Security Index report addresses these issues, how to leverage the incredible power of AI while keeping data secure.
01:26 — Ultimately, the report suggests three priorities for organizations to protect their data while maximizing AI adoption. One is a conscious and deliberate move away from fragmented security tools towards a unified data security mechanism.
01:45 — The report found that 47% of organizations surveyed had a GenAI-specific control in place, and this year’s survey found that an astounding 82% of those questioned have already developed plans to incorporate GenAI into their data security ops.
02:43 — When it comes to GenAI, the situation is tricky, because the technology serves both as a gateway for threat actors and as a mechanism for preventing them. When you get this balancing act right, the opportunities for growth are endless.

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