Cloud Wars Live with Bob Evans

Key Takeaways
AI's progress: Wiese expresses excitement to return to the event after a year to hear real case studies on how people have embraced AI, especially appreciating the human and change‑management side of this transformational journey. Specifically, she's eager to learn where organizations have tested, scaled, or faced pushback over the past 12 months, noting that adopting AI is an ongoing, iterative process.
Curating the agenda: "I think my number one view of all of the submissions was around innovation," notes Wiese, who played a role as a Programming Committee Board member, selecting sessions for the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit agenda. In her process, she looked for examples of where organizations have truly innovated with this technology. "I want honest, too. You know, 'this is what we tried. It didn't work, but we came back at it, here's how'".
AI's impact on women in tech: On Thursday, March 19, Wiese will lead a Fireside Chat around her new book, "You're on Mute." The book explores whether AI has actually helped women enter and thrive in the tech industry amid persistent adoption and trust gaps. Through stories from contributors, it examines AI’s impact on leveling the playing field and encourages more women to see AI as a path into tech.
Event expectations: The real power of conferences and events comes from being together, notes Wiese. With the lineup of speakers, she believes attendees will gain access to candid insights and meaningful peer connections.

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In today's Cloud Wars Minute, I discuss Christian Klein's plan for SAP's continued success.
Highlights
00:00 — Hello, my friends. Welcome back to Cloud Wars Minute, where 2026 is off to a racing start here into the AI economy. And I wanted to talk today a little bit about the results for Q4 and full-year 2025 from SAP, which is now number four on the Cloud Wars Top 10, moved up from the number five spot earlier this month.
00:37 —So let’s focus on the strength that’s going on here, and why customers are reacting to the dynamics in enterprise apps and agents and AI and data marketplaces — not just apps anymore. I think SAP wrapped up a very strong Q4. CEO Christian Klein laid out a 5-point growth plan for 2026 and beyond. Before we get to that, here are my choices for the key numbers from the SAP Q4 earnings results.
01:15 — First of all, most important, total cloud backlog was up 30% to about $88 billion — very, very strong momentum going into the future. This is similar to what other companies call their RPO, remaining performance obligation. This is contracted business, locked in, but not yet recognized as revenue. Cloud revenue was up 26% for the year to $24.2 billion, so across the board, doing great.
01:57 — Within that, the Cloud ERP Suite was up 32% to $20.8 billion, and the closer-in current cloud backlog up 25% to $24.2 billion. Based on those strong numbers, Christian Klein revealed a 5-point growth plan. He said these backlog deals go out up to four years, and often customers add more. This gives SAP’s on-prem customers confidence as they move to the cloud.
03:03 — Klein said when customers migrate to the cloud, SAP often gets a two- to three-times boost in revenue as customers add more applications. He also cited a booming mid-market ecosystem through partners.
03:53 — Finally, he said the most strategic parts of future growth will be Business AI and the Business Data Cloud. In Q4, 90% of SAP’s 50 largest deals included one or both.

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In today’s Cloud Wars Minute, I dig into Microsoft’s fiscal Q2 results, unpacking the headline RPO surge, the OpenAI effect, and what the numbers really say about future demand.
Highlights
00:10 — Want to talk about Microsoft's fiscal Q2, numbers that came out yesterday. That's for the three months ended, December 31 and there was some remarkable numbers in there, but we're going to dig into those a little. They're still remarkable, but they need to be understood in a deeper context, and I want to share that today.
00:28 — So, the big number that jumped out to me very good, Q2 Microsoft Cloud revenue growth overall. But the big number that jumped out to me was for their Q2 RPO, remaining performance obligation, which is future contracted business not yet recognized as revenue. So, it's a look into the future the pipeline and customer demand for that.
00:51 — Microsoft said their RPO for Q2 jumped 110% to $625 billion an enormous number that's even larger than Oracle, which in the past couple quarters, has leapfrogged Microsoft as the RPO leader. But now it's back to Microsoft. Now, that 110% includes an enormous deal, a commitment from OpenAI. I if we take that out the OpenAI commitment then the RPO growth from all of Microsoft's other customers grew 28%.
01:29 — I'm not saying this try to undercut a tremendous performance by Microsoft. They earned that OpenAI deal. It's great. And hey, 281 billion is 281 billion, but this reflects a little bit of a different tone to that enormous number. Looking back the other direction, so not into the future with RPO, but the past three months, cloud revenue was up 26% to $51.5 billion.
02:34 — Now the RPO totals, I mentioned, $625 billion. Microsoft said that 45% of that 625 billion, that equates to about $281 billion is from an a commitment for OpenAI for future cloud and AI infrastructure services.
04:19 — Late last year, OpenAI signed a $38 billion deal with AWS. And there are not many $38 billion deals in any industry, of any kind, anywhere. It's only in the cloud — this greatest growth market the world has ever known — that you can look at a $38 billion deal and say, "Wow, that's 1/10 the size of these other deals with AWS competitors, Microsoft and Oracle."

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In this episode of the AI Agent & Copilot Podcast, John Siefert is joined by Shawn Dorward, Vice President at sa.global and a second-year leader on the Programming Committee Board. Together, they explore how the AI landscape has evolved from curiosity to execution, what made the 2026 AI Agent & Copilot Summit NA speaker selection process so competitive, and how leadership, creativity, and intentional AI adoption are shaping the future of enterprise innovation.
Key Takeaways
• Creativity without constraints: Dorward says that AI removes many historical limitations, forcing leaders to think without predefined rules. The most compelling session proposals challenged conventional narratives, offering unconventional ideas that expanded what attendees believed was possible. This creative freedom is essential as organizations explore entirely new operating models enabled by AI.
• Intentional AI wins: Both speakers stress that success won’t come from using AI everywhere, but from using it intentionally. Knowing when not to apply AI is just as important as knowing when to deploy it. Organizations that align AI usage with clear business goals will outperform those chasing technology for its own sake.
• Leadership must evolve: AI-driven enterprises demand a new kind of leadership — one that blends technical understanding with human judgment, ethics, and change management.That kind of leadership, not technology, will ultimately differentiate organizations in an agentic world. “What everybody doesn’t have is the same leadership," he says. "The human element, the people element is what will separate people organizations.”

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