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- What does America look like from inside the Oval Office, and what do you learn about leadership when you've actually run for President of the United States?
I don't normally talk politics on this show, but when I got the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Ben Carson, I couldn't pass it up. This isn't a political conversation. It's a rare opportunity to hear from someone who's run for President and had a front-row seat inside the most powerful office in the world.
Dr. Ben Carson has occupied seats very few human beings ever will. He went from growing up in poverty in Detroit to becoming one of the most accomplished neurosurgeons in the world, then stepped into an entirely different arena and ran for President of the United States. What surprised me in this conversation is that he told me he never really wanted to be President. He entered the race because he was deeply concerned about where he believed the country was heading and felt called to do whatever he could to make a difference. Along the way, he competed against Donald Trump, developed a friendship with him, and ultimately went on to serve as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development. Today, Dr. Carson gives us a rare look at what he saw from inside presidential politics and the highest levels of our government.
I wanted to know what happens when the cameras turn off. What is it actually like inside an administration? What surprised him about being that close to the Oval Office? Dr. Carson talks about the competing personalities and opinions inside government, the intense energy required at that level of leadership, and why disagreement behind closed doors can actually be healthy. We also have a fascinating conversation about President Trump, including what Dr. Carson told him while they were still competing for the Republican nomination, why he believed Trump was going to become President, and what he observed working alongside him once he was in office. Whatever your politics are, this is a perspective very few people can give you firsthand.
But what struck me most is the temperament Dr. Carson brought into an arena that rewards conflict. We talk about how divided the country has become and why he believes we've lost the ability to disagree with someone without treating them like an enemy. He shares why leadership requires listening to different viewpoints, why a "my way or the highway" mentality doesn't work in a country as diverse as ours, and why our ability to see each other as neighbors again may matter more than any political label. We also get into home ownership, the expectations of the next generation, AI, parenting in a rapidly changing technological world, and what he believes families can do instead of waiting for Washington to solve their problems.
And then you hear the story behind the man. This calm, measured former presidential candidate was once an angry teenager who tried to stab another young man. The knife struck a metal belt buckle and broke. Dr. Carson went home, locked himself in a room, turned to God, and experienced a transformation that changed his entire future. As he told me, God took the knife out of the hand of an angry teenager and replaced it with a scalpel that would save lives. When you hear about his mother, his childhood, his faith, his journey into medicine, his run for President, and eventually his time inside a presidential administration, you begin to understand why his perspective on leadership is so different.
Key Takeaways:
Why Dr. Carson says he entered the presidential race even though he didn't really want to become President
What happened between Dr. Carson and Donald Trump while they were competing for the Republican nomination
What surprised him after getting an inside view of a presidential administration
What he learned about leadership, disagreement, and decision making at the highest levels of government
Why he believes Americans must relearn how to disagree without treating each other as enemies
His concerns about AI, parenting, home ownership, and the future facing the next generation
How faith transformed him from an angry teenager who nearly took a life into a surgeon who spent his career saving them
There are very few people who can tell you what it's like to operate on the human brain, run for President, serve in a presidential cabinet, and sit inside the rooms where decisions affecting millions of people are made. Dr. Carson can. Regardless of your politics, this conversation is about something bigger: leadership, faith, character, family, and what each of us can do to build a better future. This is one I genuinely didn't want to end. God bless you. Max Out your life.
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I get asked all the time what actually separates the people who win from everyone else, and this week I gave you my real answer: it's not talent, it's not connections, it's one more. One more call, one more set, one more minute. So instead of just teaching it, I pulled from the archives to show it in action, my conversations with David Meltzer and Jay Shetty, alongside some of my favorite solo teaching on this over the years.
Here's what you'll gain from this episode:
The one word mantra: The single word I've repeated to myself for three decades, and why I believe it's the real separator between winners and everyone else.
The 24 hour myth: Why I stopped believing a day is 24 hours a long time ago, and the shift that gets me multiple days out of every single one.
David Meltzer on accessibility: What makes some of the most successful people I know also some of the most reachable, and what that has to do with how you value your own time.
Jay Shetty on evaluating progress: How often Jay actually checks in on himself, and why it's nowhere close to how often most people do.
The story I still think about with Kobe Bryant: What I saw the last time I was around him, and why it changed how I look at every day since.
Whatever rock is sitting between you and your dream right now, it's breaking down more than you realize. You just haven't seen the evidence yet. Stick around long enough and the candy comes out.
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You either go up with the people you lead, or you go down with them. There is no version where you stay still.
Welcome back to our series on John Maxwell's 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership. Law #12 is the Law of Empowerment, and John opens it with a line that stopped me: only secure leaders give power to others. This one hits close to home for me. If you know me at all, you know I like control. Letting go of it has been one of the hardest lessons of my leadership life.
In this episode, John shows you what happens when a leader pushes people down instead of lifting them up: you don't stay above them, you go down right along with them. Then he gets specific about why so many leaders never empower anyone in the first place. He breaks down five reasons, from insecurity to ego to the kind of bad experience that makes you swear you'll never pour into anyone again, and he doesn't let anyone off the hook, including himself.
I connect this straight to what I teach in the power of one more. I talk about how leaders convince themselves they're more valuable when everything depends on them, when the truth is the opposite: if everything depends on you, you don't have a business, you have a bottleneck with your name on it. I challenge you to stop asking how you can get something done fastest and start asking who can grow by doing it instead. That one shift in the question changes everything about how you lead.
Here's what you'll gain from this episode:
The Demonstration: John's live, physical illustration of exactly what happens to a leader who pushes their people down instead of lifting them up.
The Five Reasons You Don't Empower: The breakdown of what's really stopping you from letting go, and at least one of them is going to sting.
The Power of One More: How a single moment of belief from a leader can turn someone into who they were always capable of becoming.
The Bottleneck Trap: Why holding onto every decision doesn't make you more valuable, it makes you the reason your organization can't grow.
Kingmaker, Not King: What John says the real goal of leadership actually is, and why the leaders who understand it end up more secure, not less.
I think about every person who ever believed I could be more than I thought I could be, and I know I would not be sitting here right now without them. That is the debt I am trying to pay forward every single day. Somebody in your life is waiting for you to see something in them before they see it in themselves. Stop protecting your position long enough to go find that person this week.
This is part of a new series releasing every Thursday where John Maxwell and I are walking through all 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership together, one law at a time. Click the link below to download the free 21 page workbook so you can follow along, track your growth, and submit your questions for our upcoming Q&A sessions with John.
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Rory Vaden is back for his third appearance on the show, and this conversation might be the most important one we've ever had together. Rory is a two-time New York Times bestselling author, a two-time World Championship of Public Speaking finalist, and the co-founder of Brand Builders Group. He's also someone who has personally helped me grow my own brand and career. We go deep on what I believe is one of the most underrated skills in life: your ability to communicate, present, tell stories, and move people emotionally. Because whether you're leading a company, closing a sale, raising your kids, building a relationship, or speaking to thousands of people, you're presenting every single day.
Rory breaks down why charisma isn't something you're simply born with. It's a skill you can develop. We get tactical about how changing your pace, volume, eye contact, pauses, and storytelling can literally change how another person feels when they're listening to you. And in a world increasingly dominated by AI, Rory makes a powerful point: your story and your experiences are becoming more valuable, not less. AI can help create information, but it cannot live your story for you. If you can learn to tell that story in a way that creates emotion and meaning for someone else, you become unforgettable.
We also get into personal branding, and Rory gives one of the best definitions I've ever heard: your personal brand is the digitization of your reputation. You already have a reputation, whether you're intentional about it or not. The question is whether that reputation is helping you create more income, impact, and opportunity. Rory explains why you don't need millions of followers to build an incredibly profitable brand. Instead of obsessing over reaching more people, serve a narrower audience in a deeper way. Be useful. Create value. Become so good at helping the right people that they can't ignore you.
But this conversation goes deeper than business. Rory shares the buffalo story that helped build his career and explains why successful people learn to run directly toward difficult things instead of spending their lives avoiding them. We talk about separating your emotions from what needs to be done, doing the difficult things today that create freedom tomorrow, and why success ultimately becomes empty if it's driven only by ambition or competition. Rory's journey has taken him from ambition, to competition, and ultimately to mission. And that's where the real fulfillment is. It's not just about what you accomplish. It's about who becomes better because you were here.
Key Takeaways:
Why communication may be the fastest skill you can develop to dramatically change your life
How to move people emotionally whether your audience is 20,000 people or one person
Why storytelling becomes even more valuable in the age of AI
Rory's four-part storytelling framework: scene, struggle, summit, and lesson
Why the struggle is actually the most important part of every great story
How your personal brand is really the digitization of your reputation
Why you don't need millions of followers to build a powerful and profitable brand
How serving a narrower audience more deeply can create extraordinary results
Why successful people run toward difficult things instead of avoiding them
The difference between building your life around ambition, competition, and mission
Some of you are far more talented, capable, interesting, and valuable than the world currently knows. The problem isn't what's inside you. The problem may be that you've never learned how to express it. Get better at communicating. Get better at telling your story. Get better at expressing who you really are. Because when you learn how to move people emotionally, you don't just change your business. You change the depth and quality of your entire life.
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That is the filter I open this weekend mashup with, and it is why I brought together some of the sharpest minds I know on reading people, building real confidence and telling the difference between someone who loves you and someone who is just good at saying it.
Dr. Marisa Franco is breaking down the actual research on why some friendships take root and others fade. Brendon Burchard and I get into the two small promises I started keeping to myself and how the habit of keeping tiny commitments directly relates to whether you can trust a person or not. Then you hear the raw truth from a man who finished Navy SEAL training, Army Ranger School and Air Force tech school in one lifetime, David Goggins, describing the 19 hours that broke him down and rebuilt him at the same time. What he says about the people from his old life who still want to pull him back will stick with you.
Here's what you'll walk away with:
Filter test: the exact shift in how you watch people that tells you instantly who is real.
Friendship science: why the group you show up to again and again matters more than how the first meeting felt.
Confidence rebuild: the two tiny promises that pulled me out of my lowest point.
The cookie jar: how to reach for proof of your own toughness when your body wants to quit.
The lens flip: one question that will change how every person in your life experiences you.
I have spent the past few years listening less and watching more, and every relationship in my life is better for it.
Watch the people around you this week instead of just listening to them, and you will already understand more about your life than you did yesterday.
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