Mama Bear Apologetics

This episode of the Mama Bear Apologetics podcast explores one of the biggest challenges to the Christian faith: the problem of evil. Amy & Tricia discuss how both children and adults wrestle with suffering, tragedy, and the existence of evil in a world created by a good and all-powerful God. Using scripture, philosophy, practical examples, and personal stories, they explain the difference between natural evil and moral evil, define goodness and evil from a biblical worldview, and demonstrate why evil actually points toward the existence of God rather than disproving Him.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of proactively preparing children to think biblically about suffering before tragedy strikes. The hosts explain that evil is not a created “thing,” but rather a corruption or absence of goodness. They discuss how free will makes love possible but also allows humans to choose evil. The episode also highlights the Christian hope found in Christ’s victory over sin and evil through the cross and resurrection, while awaiting the final restoration of all things.
The hosts provide practical illustrations from parenting, literature, philosophy, and science to help families explain these difficult concepts to children in age-appropriate ways. The episode closes with recommended resources for parents, teens, and children to continue learning about suffering, evil, and God’s goodness.
Main Points Covered
Why Parents Should Discuss Evil Proactively
The Philosophical Problem of Evil
Defining Good and Evil
Natural Evil vs. Moral Evil
The Origin of Evil
Teaching Children About Evil
Resources Mentioned
Case for Faith for Kids — Lee Strobel
10 Questions Every Teen Should Ask and Answer About Christianity — Rebecca McLaughlin
101 Questions About the Bible and Christianity — Kingstone Comics
Living Loud for Teens — Norman Geisler & Joseph Holden
Life-Givers Apologetics — Tricia Scribner
Fox and the Hard Day — JD Camorlinga
Old Yeller — Fred Gipson
Bridge to Terabithia — Jessica Case
Betsy-Tacy series — Maud Hart Lovelace
Scriptures Mentioned
Jeremiah 12:1
Romans 2
Mark 10:18
Luke 18:19
Psalm 104
Romans 5
Genesis 1–3
Ezekiel 28

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In this episode of the Mama Bear Apologetics podcast, Amy and Tricia Scribner continue their series on arguments for the existence of God by exploring the moral argument, also called the “right and wrong argument.” They explain that if objective moral laws exist, then there must be a moral lawgiver behind them. The conversation carefully distinguishes between descriptive statements (“what is”) and moral or prescriptive statements (“what ought to be”), arguing that morality cannot arise from impersonal forces or mere social convention.
Amy and Tricia address several common objections to objective morality, including moral relativism, emotional subjectivism, and Darwinian evolutionary explanations for morality. Drawing from thinkers such as C.S. Lewis, Frank Turek, Norman Geisler, and Francis Schaeffer, they demonstrate how universal moral principles exist across cultures even when customs differ.
The hosts also discuss the Euthyphro dilemma and explain the Christian understanding that goodness flows from God’s very nature rather than existing independently of Him. Throughout the episode, they provide practical ways parents can help children recognize objective morality through movies, discussions, discipline, and everyday experiences.

Main Points Covered
The Moral Argument for God’s Existence
Objective Morality vs. Subjective Morality
Common Challenges to Objective Morality
C.S. Lewis and the Nature of Justice
Teaching Children About Morality and Truth
Scriptures Mentioned
Romans 2:15 — The law written on human hearts
Galatians 5:20–23 — Fruit of the Spirit and moral goodness
Psalm 34:8 — “Taste and see that the Lord is good”
Romans 3 — Humanity missing the moral standard

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In this episode, Amy and Tricia Scribner explore how order and design in the universe point to an intelligent Creator. Building on prior discussions of truth and causation, they introduce the teleological argument—the idea that purposeful design requires a designer. From microscopic bacteria to the fine-tuning of the cosmos, the hosts demonstrate that both the smallest and largest aspects of reality exhibit complex, specified, and ordered patterns that cannot reasonably arise by chance. They connect science, logic, and everyday analogies (like puzzles and pickup sticks) to show that design implies intelligence, encouraging parents to help their children recognize God’s handiwork in creation.

Main Points Covered
The teleological argument (design implies a designer)
Difference between deductive vs. inductive reasoning
Order and predictability in non-conscious entities
The anthropic principle / fine-tuning of the universe
Practical ways to teach kids about design in creation

People and resources mentioned
Books & Authors
Life-Giver Apologetics – Tricia Scribner
I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist – Frank Turek & Norman Geisler
Thinkers & Influencers
Jay Warner Wallace (CSI concept)
Richard Dawkins
Francis Collins
William Dembski
C. S. Lewis
Scripture
Psalm 19:1

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Amy sits down with Leslie Nunnery from Teach Them Diligently to re-center the conversation around discipleship as the true goal of parenting—not homeschooling itself. While many families consider homeschooling as a solution for raising faithful children, Leslie gently corrects this mindset: education is a tool, not the savior. The heart of the discussion is a shift from performance-based parenting (checking boxes, academic success) to relationship-driven discipleship (shaping hearts for Christ). Leslie introduces the idea of “heart schooling,” emphasizing that parents are called first to point their children to Jesus, not merely manage their education.
The conversation also highlights the importance of community, spiritual growth in parents, and intentional daily rhythms that model faith naturally. Whether homeschooling, public schooling, or anything in between, the mission remains the same: raise children who know and love God through everyday life and authentic faith lived out at home.

Main Points Covered
Homeschooling vs. discipleship: correcting misplaced priorities
The danger of idolizing homeschooling
“Heart schooling” as discipleship-focused parenting
Practical everyday discipleship (based on Deuteronomy 6)
Shifting from box-checking to heart-shaping
Overcoming feelings of inadequacy as parents

People and resources mentioned
Teach Them Diligently Conferences
Teach Them Diligently book by Leslie Nunnery
Follow Teach Them Diligently
Listen to the Teach Them Diligently Podcast

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This episode walks listeners through one of the most foundational and powerful arguments for God’s existence—the cosmological (cause-and-effect) argument. Amy and Tricia build on earlier discussions about truth, logic, and worldview, showing that belief in God isn’t a leap in the dark but a conclusion supported by both reason and scientific evidence. They explain that everything that begins to exist must have a cause—and since the universe began to exist, it must also have a cause. Through accessible examples (like hot coffee cooling or balloons expanding), they demonstrate how scientific observations align with this logic.
The conversation emphasizes that this cause must be outside space, time, and matter, and must be personal, intelligent, and necessary—not just a force. While this doesn’t fully prove Christianity specifically, it provides a foundation for understanding how a theistic Creator is logical. Throughout the episode, they encourage parents to teach these ideas to kids in simple, engaging ways—showing that even young children can grasp deep truths about reality and God.
Main Points Covered
Law of causality
Nature of “nothing” and equivocation
Scientific evidence for the universe’s beginning (SURGE):
Second Law of Thermodynamics (entropy)
Expanding universe (Hubble redshift)
General relativity
Nature of God as:
Personal vs. impersonal
Necessary vs. contingent
Outside space, time, and matter
Teaching apologetics to children
People and resources mentioned
Books & Authors
God’s Crime Scene – J. Warner Wallace
Let’s Get Real: Examining the Evidence for God (CrossExamined Press)
Yes, God Is Real (CrossExamined Press)
The Case for a Creator (kids version) – Lee Strobel, Rob Suggs, Robert Elmer
Scripture
Romans 1 – Knowledge of God through creation
Romans 2 – Knowledge of God through conscience
Exodus 3:14 – “I AM” (God as necessary being)
 
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