The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.

James Martin, S.J., speaks with Andrew Sullivan, the renowned political commentator and Catholic writer, about faith, identity and spiritual transformation in this deeply personal episode of “The Spiritual Life” podcast. Having struggled through the AIDS crisis of the 80s and 90s, Andrew opens up about the initial fear of gay people in the Catholic Church and the remarkable shift that he believes has taken place over the past few decades.

Chapters

00:00 Who is Andrew Sullivan?

4:20 Homosexuality and the Catholic Church

11:14 State of the LGBTQ movement

15:35 How Pope Francis dispelled fear

21:38 God in the midst of agony

31:31 Andrew's turbulent Catholic life

41:04 Staying rooted spiritually

44:55 Reconciling personal experience in the church

Links:

Fr. Martin's spiritual advice column on this conversation: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2026/04/27/james-martin-andrew-sullivan-spiritual-life

“The Weekly Dish”: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/

Virtually Normal: An Argument About Homosexuality: https://www.amazon.ca/Virtually-Normal-Argument-about-Homosexuality/dp/0679746145 

Interview: Andrew Sullivan on being openly gay and Catholic by Thomas H. Stahel: https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2022/11/10/vantage-point-america-andrew-sullivan-244119
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Cardinal Blase Cupich, the Archbishop of Chicago,  joins James Martin, S.J., on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to talk about his vocation story, the spiritual power of the Mass, and the necessity of  preaching the Gospel during  tumultuous political times. 

Cardinal Cupich is the Archbishop of Chicago, one of three U.S. cardinals who currently runs a diocese, and is also a member of the Dicastery for Bishops.

00:00 Who is Cardinal Cupich?

2:32 Explaining Lectio Divina

5:33 Explaining the Liturgy of the Hours

8:17 Cardinal Cupich's vocation story

12:32 Prayer isn't just personal

19:40 How the Mass changes your life

25:48 The spiritual life of a bishop

29:12 Working with Pope Leo XIV

32:32 Being political vs. preaching the Gospel

37:00 Audience question: Why is Confession important?

Links:

Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice column on the Sacrament of Confession

Cardinal Cupich's archdiocesan column

Cardinal Cupich on retrieving the Consistent Ethic of Life

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The poet and theologian, Pádraig Ó Tuama, joins James Martin, S.J., on “The Spiritual Life” podcast to talk about how poetry and the Taizé community became a lifeline for Pádraig after he was subjected to multiple exorcisms, attempting to cast out his homosexuality as a form of conversion therapy.

Pádraig is the host of On Being’s podcast, “Poetry Unbound,” and has published volumes of poetry, essays, a memoir and has written on theological topics. His books include:

 Being Here: Prayers for Curiosity, Justice, and Love

Kitchen Hymns

Timecodes:

0:00 What do you really want?

1:25 The conversion therapies inflicted upon Pádraig Ó Tuama

7:00 Pádraig’s younger years among the Catholic charismatic movement

11:24 How Pádraig accepted his homosexuality and renewed his faith

17:40 Coming out as a poet and being haunted by Emily Dickenson 

25:44 Pádraig’s understanding of prayer

32:25 Practicing the Stations of the Cross 

37:45 Required spiritual practices for reconciliation

43:20 How to deal with criticism

51:40 Audience Question: What practices can I bring from retreats into my daily life?

Read Fr. Jim's article reflecting on poetry and prayer.

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James Martin, S.J., is joined by James K.A. Smith on the “The Spiritual Life” podcast. Jamie is a leading scholar of St. Augustine, and a professor of philosophy at Calvin University. He’s written several books—including Desiring the Kingdom, You Are What You Love, On the Road with Saint Augustine, and his latest, Make Your Home in This Luminous Dark: Mysticism, Art, and the Path of Unknowing. Together, they chart the contours of St. Augustine’s life, spirituality, and theological patrimony in the Church, along with Jamie’s own spiritual life.  

Timecodes:

0:00 Adopting a refugee spirituality

1:40 Introducing James K.A. Smith and Augustinian spirituality

6:39 Jamie meets God through his wife’s family

11:00 How St. Augustine became a spiritual lifeline for Jamie

13:30 A thumbnail sketch of St. Augustine’s life

19:10 “Everybody’s got a hungry heart” 

30:40 Praying with the German mystic Meister Eckhart

33:46 Tracking your desires in the spiritual life

36:10 The relationship between Pope Leo XIV, the Augustianians, and Augustine45:15 Audience Question: How can we reconcile the "two churches" of today: a church that follows Jesus and a more "worldy church"?

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Editor-in-chief of Orbis Books, Robert Ellsberg cut his teeth as an editor of The Catholic Worker newspaper when he was just 20  years old. There he also traded literary notes with the great Catholic writer, activist and now “Servant of God,” Dorothy Day. On this episode of “The Spiritual Life,” Robert joins host James Martin, S.J., to share what he learned from Dorothy and his time at the Catholic Worker about ordinary holiness. 

Timecodes:

0:00 Spiritual improv at the Catholic Worker

1:15 Introducing Robert Ellsberg, Orbis editor-in-chief

3:15 A primer on Servant of God, Dorothy Day

7:00 How Robert Ellsberg fell into the Catholic Worker at only 20 y.o.

13:50 Robert’s spiritual crisis and eventual conversion to Catholicism

15:50 Life at the Catholic Worker and getting to know Dorothy Day 

22:40 “Don’t call me a saint” and Dorothy’s own expression of holiness

32:46 Letting go of the need to have the last word

35:33 Encountering God in nature

37:12 Audience Question: What saints can assist my prayer when I feel desolation around the church?

Read Fr. Jim's ⁠article on Dorothy Day

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