FOR REAL

• FOR REAL - episode 20

  FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).This episode was recorded on the 23d of November 2024, Explore the North, Leeuwarden (NL).In this episode:(01:26) Minke [°1952 - Wolvega, Friesland, NL]: reflects on female leadership. "A leader who humiliates, is not a leader."(05:13) Janneke [°2001, Wierden, NL]: "I am a musician, and technicians feel the urge to explain me where the ON-button is on an amp. Explaining me I am not holding my guitar correctly."(09:26) Eva [°1989, Leeuwarden,NL]: "The patriarchal system is heavy and unsafe for everyone."(12:55) Sytzke [°2003, a village next to Leeuwarden,NL]: "I feel the responsibility to be bubbly. Especially in conversation with men, I feel I need to make them feel seen. Women resonate with that. Afterwards, I feel really drained." And the secret of showing interest.(18:55) Johannes [°2001, Oostende, BE] and Tessa [°1998, Woerden, NL]: about being on tour with a female technician, and everyone always addressing Johannes. "What can I do apart from using tricks?" Tessa: "Is it OK to call people out on their behavior? I wish people would dare to say: 'this is not OK.'"(24:55) What do you deserve? "To feel safe, without being kept on my toes."Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George DumitriuSound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam RecordingsFunded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, DioraphteInsta: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• FOR REAL - episode 19

  FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).This episode was recorded on the 30th of October 2024, Schuur, Haarlem, 20u (NL).In this episode:(01:48) Emmy [°1988 - USA] asks musician Sarah about the red threads in all the interviews of FOR REAL so far.(4:07) Anonymous: "I went to art school and I was in the year with a rapist. Everybody excused that guy. Teachers only going to the bar with the men, sniffing coke together. People say to you: "Oh, but you can really see it was made by a women". And then you think it must be me, my art is not good enough. I am running an art space now, trying to do the exact opposite of what I was taught in art school."(08:05) Lilly [NL] "What responsibilities lie on your shoulders? Is that in the first place I am a mum. I have two beautiful daughters (...) what I try to do in raising them is to make them strong and resilient. Show them that they really have to be themselves."(14:08) Anonymous: "I had a fight at work where I was treated very unjustly. I told it to my therapist. And she said: 'are you aware you are telling me this with a huge smile?' It's something a lot of women do. It's probably because it is safer to be friendly all the time than to be angry".(17:05) Sil: "I felt very much how much the world at the moment needs women. There is so much we can do and a man can not." E.g. on the privilege of giving birth to children. "We are lucky to be a woman. I feel that every day."(20:59) Robin: "I deserve pleasure. And this is difficult for me, because when I was born, the doctor did not see a willie so he said "it's a girl". I'm 33 now and a couple of years ago I came to realise that that small sentence trapped me. I think, people are worried for my happiness. That's an experience that you feel at ease with yourself. Joy beyond the labels. I think that's what we all deserve."Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George DumitriuSound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam RecordingsFunded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• FOR REAL - episode 18

  FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).This episode was recorded on the 30th of October 2024, Schuur, Haarlem, 17u30.In this episode:(01:25) Jolanda [°1969 - Terschelling, NL] "We need the other 50% too, to start to make a difference. I would love to find men who say: I was one of those men and I'm sorry."(04:50) Tuhin [°1988 - Kolkata, IN] "When I work with women, I see they put in 20 times the work. They question if they belong here. That confidence will take a lot of time to build. This is very counterproductive to the ecosystem. We all play a role here."(10:05) Francesca [°1991 - Montepulciano, IT] "The responsibilities... towards my daughter. Her education, giving her food, transmitting values. Breaking the chain of traumas I am inheriting from the past. Which might be one of the hardest responsibilities on my shoulders. Transmit her the feeling she is not alone in her struggles in the world. She does not need to surrender to the individualism around us."(14:19) Gina [°1990 - Amsterdam, NL] "Everybody listens to my brother all the time, he talks all the time. That frustrates me. I wanted my family to listen to me. I raised my voice, the response was: 'Gina! You put all the attention on you! You are probably drunk.' I had to laugh and then I got really sad."(19:34) Rachel [°1983 - Leeds, UK] speaks with Tabitha [°1987 - Albuquerque, USA] who was thinking about her mother a lot. "I was a responsibility on her shoulders. She cleaned houses and felt invisible." Rachel speaks about the fear to speak out, and experiments with expressing herself in public, for example in her own music. It takes a lot of courage. (24:35) Marelie [°1978] meets Durga [°43 years old, I think]. "I said no to be interviewed by Andrea. I think only sad stories about women will be remembered. I was worried people only remember sad stories. I deserve a strong voice. We deserve strong stories." Marelie: "My mom was sent off as an au pair, her brother was allowed to go to college. I am so happy to hear different stories from the people in their 20s now."Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George DumitriuSound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam RecordingsFunded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, DioraphteFind us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• FOR REAL - episode 17

  FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).This episode was recorded on the 27th of October 2024, POM, Eindhoven (NL).In this episode:(01:25) Saskia [°1970 - Groningen, NL] on the position of women in physics. "I am full of stories. I have been interviewing female physicists of color and I was crying behind my laptop. And then a colleagues is telling me I am making things up."(06:42) Arnoud [°1978 - Zeist, NL] "I am the oldest son of the oldest son. So responsibility becomes a big issue. Be in control." And a U-turn that had to be taken.(12:37) Mauricio Diaz [°1981 - Mexico City] "A very important thing is to matter and to be respected. And to be alive."(18:23) Inge [°1988 - USA/NL] recently became a mother herself, which started conversations with her own mother. "It's so similar, what we experienced. Which makes me sad. Women are still so pushed as women."(21:47) Astrid [°1990 - Columbia] "I loose my voice. I do want to say things, but feel that nothing that I would be capable to say is meaningful. Because I have been harmed, I don't want to harm."(26:44) What do you deserve? "To be more proud of myself. To be able to speak my mind. To be respected as a man in my vulnerability. To be loved and be happy, as we all do."Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George DumitriuSound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam RecordingsFunded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, DioraphteFind us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• FOR REAL - episode 16

  FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).This episode was recorded on the 7th of September 2024, at Gaudeamus, Theater Kikker, Utrecht.In this episode:(02:01) Ellen [°1960 - Rotterdam, NL] on an exam of instrumentation in musicology, and the demand of a retake, for the sake of being taken seriously.(05:55) Emily [°1996 - Canterbury, UK] on appearing as a white woman, when her mother is from Bagdad, who studied mechanical engineering. "My appearance is a barrier to talking about her and her experiences."(09:40) Daniela Bittman [°1952 - Romania] "I am very agressive. One of my bosses pinched my behind. What do you think I did? I turned around and pinched him."(14:15) Elsa [°2004 - Sydney, AU] on the responsibility to be nice to men who offer her advise she does not need. "It would feel scary to say: no thank you, leave me alone."(18:08) Lilly (CH) and Alberto (ES) on not having female friends. On needing both. How can women and men be friends?(27:00) What do you deserve? "The freedom to be a man who looks after children. Not to be judged and not to feel less of a man, for doing that."Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George DumitriuSound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam RecordingsIntern: Tor LindquistFunded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, DioraphteFind us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | [email protected] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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