Legal AI Lab

Lawyers are architects of society. But what happens when AI changes how law is accessed, practiced and understood?

In this episode of Legal AI Lab, Soledad Atienza, Dean of IE Law School, explains why legal education must move beyond national systems and embrace a global legal mindset.

AI makes legal knowledge more accessible than ever. That means law schools must shift their focus. From memorising content to developing critical thinking. From national silos to comparative principles. From narrow specialisation to multidisciplinary awareness.

We discuss:
• Why law schools should not ban AI but guide its use
• How assessments must change in an AI world
• Why students must learn to question AI outputs
• Why demand for legal services is growing, not shrinking
• The importance of human skills such as empathy, negotiation and teamwork

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hoofdstukken
00:00 Lawyers as architects of society
02:47 National regulation vs global practice
06:18 From systems to principles
09:42 Knowledge vs judgment in the AI era
14:11 Growing demand for legal services
17:36 Embedding AI across the curriculum
22:04 Teaching students to question AI
26:53 Rethinking assessment in an AI world
32:27 Generalists and multidisciplinary thinking
37:12 Human skills in a tech driven profession
41:05 Experiential learning and VR
44:38 Habits future lawyers must build

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AI verandert de advocatuur fundamenteel. Niet alleen technisch, maar ook cultureel.
In deze aflevering van Legal AI Lab spreekt Hidde Bruinsma met Elgar Weijtmans over wat het betekent om jurist te zijn in een tijdperk van generatieve AI.

Elgar vertelt waarom hij zichzelf een generalist noemt. Waarom juist die brede blik steeds waardevoller wordt. En waarom advocatenkantoren die wachten op perfect beleid of volledige zekerheid zichzelf in de weg zitten.

Het gesprek gaat over experimenteren. Over kleine teams. Over sandboxes in plaats van olietankers. En over waarom training, cultuur en menselijk gedrag uiteindelijk belangrijker zijn dan de technologie zelf.

Ook bespreken we hoe advocatenkantoren omgaan met weerstand. Waarom vroege adoptie soms vooral geluk is. En waarom AI niet vraagt om minder mensen, maar om andere vaardigheden.

Een aflevering voor studenten. Voor jonge juristen. Voor partners. En voor iedereen die voelt dat het klassieke carrièrepad schuurt.

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hoofdstukken
0:00 Introductie en het pad van Elgar
1:10 Generalist zijn in de advocatuur
2:59 Waarom AI een kans is voor generalisten
4:14 Het klassieke carrièrepad onder druk
6:08 Waarom experimenteren essentieel is
9:20 De eerste kennismaking met ChatGPT
11:28 Verandering organiseren binnen een groot kantoor
13:52 Waarom timing soms geluk is
15:15 Training is belangrijker dan technologie
18:56 Worden advocatenkantoren techbedrijven
21:53 Een nieuw profiel voor jonge juristen
24:40 Zichtbaarheid. Kennis delen. Cultuur
27:23 Waarom hyperpersoonlijk werkt
30:48 De zoektocht naar juridische AI tools
33:24 De trechter. Niet het resultaat maar het proces
36:24 Waarom testen altijd contextafhankelijk is
40:23 Van generieke AI naar juridisch onderzoek
45:22 Richtlijnen en onzekerheid in de markt
48:52 Open benchmarks en samenwerking
51:44 Voorspellingen voor 2026
54:31 Advies aan jonge juristen
55:55 Afsluiting
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Banning AI at law schools will not save legal education. It will make it unfair.

In this episode of Legal AI Lab, Hidde Bruinsma speaks with Thibault Schrepel, Associate Professor of Law at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam and founder of Stanford’s Computational Antitrust Project.

Schrepel explains why banning AI creates distorted competition, why AI detection does not work, and why law schools must rethink how they teach and assess students instead of trying to preserve outdated systems.

Based on a two year classroom experiment, he shows what happens when students use AI without guidance, with guidance, or not at all. The results challenge common fears about shortcuts and show why AI can strengthen learning when used deliberately.

The conversation also dives into the limits of future proof regulation, the challenges of the EU AI Act, and how AI is already changing law firm business models, billing structures, and the role of junior lawyers.

AI is not ending the legal profession. It is removing the most tedious work and increasing the value of human judgment, creativity, and strategy.
It forces legal education to confront how lawyers actually create value.

You’ll learn

• Why banning AI in law schools creates inequality rather than fairness
• What actually happens when students use AI in legal education
• Why detecting AI generated work does not work at scale
• How legal education must change exams and teaching methods
• Why future proof regulation is impossible and adaptive law is necessary
• How the EU AI Act struggles with fast technological change
• Why hourly billing is under pressure

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Chapters

0:00 Introduction.
3:05 Fear, prohibition and the illusion of control
7:40 There is no hiding from AI in legal practice
12:20 What really goes wrong when lawyers misuse AI
17:30 AI does not replace reasoning. It exposes weak reasoning
22:45 Judges, responsibility and meaningful human control
28:30 Why AI literacy matters more than technical skill
33:50 New legal markets beyond traditional law firms
38:40 Why old billing models are under pressure
43:10 The EU AI Act. Guardrails, risk categories and legal responsibility
47:40 What the AI Act means for lawyers, judges and legal education
50:10 Final reflection. Regulation as a condition for trust
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AI verandert de rechtspraak sneller dan wie dan ook had verwacht.
In deze aflevering spreekt Hidde Bruinsma met Jos Smits, Programmamanager AI bij de Rechtspraak, over deepfakes, bewijsproblemen, hallucinerende modellen en de ontwikkeling van RechtspraakGPT.

Jos legt uit waarom klassieke ideeën over bewijs en waarheidsvinding niet langer houdbaar zijn in een tijdperk waarin beelden, stemmen en documenten volledig te vervalsen zijn. En waarom AI niet de rechter vervangt, maar wel de manier waarop rechters werken ingrijpend zal veranderen.

Je hoort onder meer:
• Hoe deepfakes het bewijsrecht fundamenteel uitdagen
• Waarom AI soms de bewijslast juist omdraait
• Wat RechtspraakGPT wel en niet zal kunnen
• Hoe de rechtspraak verantwoord met LLMs wil werken
• Waarom menselijke oordeelsvorming belangrijker wordt in een AI-wereld

Deze aflevering is onmisbaar voor iedereen die nadenkt over de toekomst van recht, waarheidsvinding en technologie.

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Billions of decisions. Zero judges. And a justice system that lives inside your phone.

Pietro Ortolani, Professor of Digital Law and Dispute Resolution at Radboud University, reveals why major platforms like Meta, Amazon and eBay already operate the largest dispute resolution systems on the planet. Much larger than any court we know. And far faster.

In this wide ranging conversation, Pietro explains how platforms became de facto courts, why automation and AI already settle the vast majority of online disputes, and what the legal world can learn from this silent revolution. He shows how young lawyers can create new forms of online courts, why the hourly billing model is collapsing and why this moment is the best time in history to enter the legal profession.

You will hear why justice at scale is possible, how the Digital Services Act is reshaping content moderation and why the next generation of lawyers should build the future instead of fearing it.

What you will learn
• How online platforms created the world’s largest dispute resolution systems
• Why AI already handles the majority of disputes you never hear about
• What judges and lawyers must understand about automated decision making
• How the DSA creates a new market for out of court dispute resolution
• Why law students should embrace creativity instead of fearing automation
• How AI can act as a mirror for judicial bias
• Why this is the best moment in history to become a lawyer

Quote
“It has never been a better or more interesting time to be a lawyer.”

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Chapters
0:00 Opening
1:03 What platforms can teach us about dispute resolution
3:14 How eBay accidentally built the first online court
6:18 Why platforms settle billions of disputes without judges
8:49 The limits of automated moderation
11:09 Should we fear the Amazonification of justice
13:27 The Oversight Board as a model for modern justice
16:42 The rise of a new market for digital dispute resolution
18:58 Can we copy these systems into public courts
21:12 How AI empowers rather than replaces judges
24:11 AI as a mirror for judicial bias
26:32 The real danger of private control over public justice
27:49 Do we already have a robot judge
30:00 Why banning AI in courts makes no sense
31:52 What young lawyers can build in this new legal world
34:48 How the DSA transforms transparency and fairness
38:22 Can we create global standards for algorithmic justice
42:01 Why innovation meets resistance inside the legal sector
45:11 What esports teach us about fast and fair dispute resolution
48:46 Should law schools ban AI or embrace it
51:31 Why this is the best moment to become a lawyer
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