The DISRUPTED SCIENCE Podcast

We turned the manuscript for our book in almost a year ago now, but we were working feverishly on it around this time given that MAHA was busy undermining vaccine science even then.

Now, a year later, how is our book looking? More or less relevant?

In this episode, we take a walk of some key chapter to find out:

Trapped In the Tech Shrine

An Ad Model for Scientific Claims  

Everything Counts, Nothing Matters 

Amateur Hour

“Code Is Law” 

The Price of “Free” 

Feudalism Makes a Comeback  

Not the Same as the Old Boss  

What Does an LLM “Know”?  

Unnatural Science  

Bottom line? 
The book is more obviously relevant, but perhaps like other books we’ve heard authors reflecting upon after publication, we didn’t go far or hard enough.

We also include our “Discoveries of the Week.”

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We’ve been doing our podcast for nearly a full year, starting right as we were putting our pencils down from writing the book. We didn’t know quite what to expect, but we were excited to try something new, and we learned how to do a podcast, which felt like an accomplishment.

We’ve also has some great interviews:

AI experts (the professor kind)

Librarians (who serve communities of students and faculties)

Historians (who put today things into context)

Business professors (who talked about incentives)

Artists (who create)

Scientists (who study and learn)

Up-and-coming leaders (who have perspective for the next generation)

Public health experts (who are having to fight for the right to do their jobs)

Silicon Valley insiders (who know where the money comes from)

Philosophers (who think about the big picture)

Editors (who do the work)

We’ve covered a few very active topics in a variety of ways:

MAHA

AI

OA

This all allowed us to keep learning while we put the finishing touches on the book and got closer to publication date.

But now, we are going to pivot . . .
Our book is coming out, so we’re focusing on everything that goes into that, while leaving coverage of developments to “The Geyser” and writing there. We also have some other projects in the works that are going to require a lot of focus, so we’re using the time saved doing this to focus on those.

Basically, we’re not sure what the podcast will be now. Here are some possibilities:

Once in a while, we may have episodes like the ones you’ve heard before

We may make some announcements about the book or have interviews with people involved with it in some way

We may podcast from an event like a signing or talk

We may have announcements about the other big projects we’re working on

We may just jump on it if something crazy happens and we want to talk with you about it

So, stay subscribed to the feed, and we’ll show up soon enough with something we hope you’ll find interesting — we’re just not entirely sure what it might be!

We also will continue to have our “Discoveries of the Week” every time. This week, they include a history of jaywalking:

https://www.npr.org/2026/05/10/nx-s1-5813709/diving-deep-into-the-fascinating-history-of-americas-jaywalking-laws

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Today we take a deep dive into a fake paper involving Eric Topol, one of the most prominent names in what we have to call “mainstream medicine” today. We’re going to offer our second opinion on what we know to be his misdiagnosis of what should be done to cure this “problem.”

A clue to the real source of the problem is the only “real” thing about the paper — the DOI. CrossRef has failed to realize that the DOI is a brand asset being exploited across scientific publishing as a fake certification code. Predatory publishers boast when they get a DOI. Pseudoscience grifters litter their citation lists with DOIs to make it appear as if certifying bodies have signed off on their claims. So, it’s no wonder that usage of DOIs is spiking as MAHA and other fake science grifts accelerate.

This points out a lack of serious governance of certification in general, even accidental certification via technological tools that can be made to look validating and certifying to those outside science.

We start with a side-quest into the papers offered to the Trump Administration by Joe Rogan to get an executive order about psychedelics rolling.

Finally, we have our “Discoveries of the Week.”

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This week, guest host Michael Magoulias takes the reins to conduct a lighthearted interview of your intrepid authors, partly to take the sting out of this being tax day in the US.

Michael has worked in scholarly publishing at the University of Chicago Press and is currently at Elsevier. He’s a trenchant observer of the scene and mutual friend.

We tackle some introductory questions and then . . . the Colbert Questionert!

What is the best sandwich? The scariest animal? So many topics.

Enjoy this lighthearted episode, including three “Discoveries of the Week.” We’ll be back with more interviews and serious topics next week.

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Susan Wise Bauer is a historian and author of The Great Shadow: A History of How Sickness Shapes What We Do, Think, Believe, and Buy. I reviewed her book a few weeks ago, and Joy attended a talk she gave William & Mary. Her engaging book seems to come from an era when the history of science existed outside of politics, restoring a calm sense of historical perspective much needed in these troubled times.

In addition teaching for 18 years at William and Mary and writing books, Bauer is a farmer and a publisher.

We discuss a grab-bag of topics, including:

Kleenex

How physicians evolved out of acolytes at temples

The English sweat

The library book panic

Copernicus and corpses

We also share our “Discoveries of the Week:”

Susan’s: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/brian-merchant/blood-in-the-machine/9780316487740/?lens=little-brown

Kent’s: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/242976013-how-the-internet-disrupted-science

Joy’s: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=slow+vacuuming

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