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- John Lee went from selling prawn crackers and used game cartridges as a teenager to closing property deals with none of his own money, and eventually building a career across real estate, sales training, social media, and AI. In this conversation, Chris Do and John break down WIIFT (What's In It For Them), a mentor lesson that reframed John's failing investor pitches by moving the ask from "do you have the money" to "here's what's in it for you," turning years of rejection into funded deals. They also get into how to tell a real pivot from quitting too early, why doubt (not lack of skill) is what actually blocks people from making money, and John's case for AI as an amplifier of human wisdom rather than a replacement for it.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(00:40) - Who Is John Lee
(02:32) - Money Unlocked Book
(03:15) - Childhood Hustle Story
(05:00) - CGI Animator to Real Estate
(09:24) - The WIIFT Pitch
(11:09) - No-Money Property Deals
(12:28) - Multi-Passionate Career Philosophy
(17:25) - Demand, Joy, Money, Mission Matrix
(19:00) - AI and Job Displacement
(21:23) - Core Three Branding Framework
(24:28) - Doubt Is the Enemy
Check out today's guest, John Lee:
Order Money Unlocked: https://a.co/d/02P9smPQ
John's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/john_lee_official/
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Check out Chris Do:
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Matt Essam, author of The Creative Studio Roadmap, joins Chris Do for a live episode recorded in front of a studio audience to break down the pillars of turning a solo creative business into one that scales: differentiation, communication, and delivery. Chris and Matt pull audience members into the hot seat to work through real pricing blocks, story-driven positioning, and the shift from selling yourself to selling your process, live and in real time.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:02) - Freelancer vs Business Owner
(03:10) - Charging By The Job
(05:37) - What Are Phantom Loops
(09:14) - Coaching Ray On Pricing
(13:49) - Differentiate Through Your Story
(15:25) - The River Of Life Exercise
(18:27) - Hector's Hot Seat Story
(25:39) - Sell Symptoms Not Services
(35:13) - Selling Process Not People
Check out today's guest, Matt Essam:
Matt's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matt_essam/?hl=en
Matt's LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mattessam
Matt's Book The Creative Studio Roadmap: https://a.co/d/0cqv7qwK
Check out The Futur:
Website: https://www.thefutur.com/
Courses: https://www.thefutur.com/shop
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/
Podcasts: https://thefutur.com/podcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/
X : https://x.com/thefuturishere
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere
Check out Chris Do:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/
X: https://x.com/thechrisdo
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Dr. Justin Sung was a practicing physician before he became one of the most-watched learning coaches online, and in this conversation he takes apart the biggest myth people believe about how they learn: that everyone has a fixed "learning style" they should lean into. Justin walks Chris through what actually drives fast, durable learning: the discomfort of overwhelm, the discipline of turning confusion into questions, and why understanding something is not the same as remembering it. They get into how this applies to neurodivergent learners, what makes a great teacher versus a great instructor, and why the hardest, least visible part of building any skill is the part right before you start seeing results.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(00:28) - Learning Styles Myth
(03:15) - From Doctor To Learning Coach
(04:40) - How To Learn Anything Faster
(08:42) - Turn Uncertainty Into Questions
(11:56) - Building Your Knowledge Schema
(13:34) - Learning vs The Feeling Of Learning
(15:11) - Learning With Dyslexia
(18:26) - Why Great Speakers Fail To Teach
(21:55) - Learner-Centric Teaching Method
(24:53) - The Socratic Teaching Method
(25:35) - Subclinical Symptoms Of Skill Growth
(29:15) - Overcoming Fear Of Mistakes
(30:30) - How Justin Reads To Retain
(33:00) - The Hypercorrection Effect
Check out today's guest, Justin Sung:
Justin's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JustinSung/
Justin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjustinsung/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://nz.linkedin.com/in/justin-sung
Check out The Futur:
Website: https://www.thefutur.com/
Courses: https://www.thefutur.com/shop
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/
Podcasts: https://thefutur.com/podcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/
X : https://x.com/thefuturishere
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere
Check out Chris Do:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/
X: https://x.com/thechrisdo
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo
Behance: https://www.behance.net/chrisdo
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Matt Gray built and exited companies, grew audiences into the millions across three ventures, then turned that same systems thinking toward his own personal brand and scaled it to over 3 million followers. In this conversation, Matt walks Chris through the full arc: getting sober and using a messy, unstructured writing practice as the starting point, learning to ship imperfect content instead of waiting to get it right, building a content waterfall system that turns one piece of work into dozens, and eventually structuring an offer simple enough to sell off a single Google Doc. It is a practical breakdown of what it actually takes to go from posting online to running a real business around your name.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:04) - Matt Gray's Background
(02:43) - Getting Sober and Finding Focus
(07:21) - Building an Audience From Zero
(11:51) - Overcoming Perfectionism
(18:04) - The Piano Analogy on Fear
(23:11) - The Ikigai Framework
(24:31) - Platform Specific Growth Tactics
(31:12) - Personal Brand to Media Company
(36:29) - Monetization and Building an Offer
Check out today's guest, Matt Gray:
Matt's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matthgray/
Matt's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@realmattgray
Matt's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgray1
Check out The Futur:
Website: https://www.thefutur.com/
Courses: https://www.thefutur.com/shop
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/
Podcasts: https://thefutur.com/podcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/
X : https://x.com/thefuturishere
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere
Check out Chris Do:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/
X: https://x.com/thechrisdo
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo
Behance: https://www.behance.net/chrisdo
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Chris Do welcomes stylist and archetypal coach Kimberly Parry to explore the deep connection between clothing, confidence, and identity. Parry walks through her Succeed with Style framework, the psychology behind why people sabotage a new look the moment they try it on, and the Bro Pro, Faux Pro, and GOAT archetypes she uses to help clients figure out who they actually are before they touch a closet.
Timestamps:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:27) - Fashion vs Image vs Style
(06:00) - What Swag Really Means
(09:03) - Why Men Resist Change
(14:14) - Fashion and Identity Formation
(21:56) - Coaching Through Style
(23:47) - The Ideal Body Shape Myth
(28:19) - The Bro Pro Archetype
(31:37) - Men of Fashion vs Men of Style
(34:21) - Five Layers of Style Framework
Check out today's guest, Kimberly Parry:
Kimberly's Website: https://www.emergencelifecoaching.com/
Kimberly's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-parry
Check out The Futur:
Website: https://www.thefutur.com/
Courses: https://www.thefutur.com/shop
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-futur/
Podcasts: https://thefutur.com/podcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thefuturishere/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theFuturisHere/
X : https://x.com/thefuturishere
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefuturishere
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/thefuturishere
Check out Chris Do:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thechrisdo/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BizOfDesign
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thechrisdo/
X: https://x.com/thechrisdo
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thechrisdo
Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thechrisdo
Behance: https://www.behance.net/chrisdo
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Futur Podcast is a show that explores the interesting overlap between design, marketing, and business. Our host (and CEO of The Futur), Chris Do, hold candid conversations with inspirational people from the worlds of design, technology, marketing, business, philosophy and personal development. These conversations go deep. With the aim of understanding who these incredible people are, what drives them to do what they do, and what can we--the listener--learn from it all. Visit thefutur.com/podcast for show notes and additional information from each episode.
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