The Science of Flipping

Want help turning your leads into deals? Check out Robin’s platform https://thelandpilot.com

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What if the deals you’ve been ignoring are actually your most profitable ones?

In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sit down with land investing expert Robin Seib to break down one of the most overlooked and scalable strategies in real estate today: land flipping.

Robin went from burnout and running a construction company in Germany to building a U.S.-based land investing business that’s done over 1,300 deals and raised more than $12M in capital—all while operating virtually across the world.

We dive into why land is a simpler, more scalable model than traditional real estate, how to evaluate deals, and how you can turn leads you’d normally pass on into serious profit.

If you’re tired of dealing with contractors, tenants, and unpredictable timelines… this episode will change how you look at real estate.

In this episode, we cover:

- Why land investing is simpler (but not easy)

- How to evaluate land deals (road access, flood zones, slope)

- Turning “dead leads” into high-profit opportunities

- How to structure deals with multiple lots

- Creative strategies like owner financing

- Why most investors overlook land (and why that’s an advantage)

- How to build a remote real estate business

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Connect with Robin Seib:

Bio:

Robin Seib is a land investing expert and entrepreneur with over 14 years of experience. Originally from Germany, he built a virtual U.S.-based real estate business focused on land acquisitions and dispositions. After experiencing burnout in construction and house flipping, Robin shifted to land investing and has since completed over 1,300 deals and raised more than $12 million in capital. He specializes in rural acreage, infill lots, and helping investors unlock hidden opportunities in land.

Website: https://thelandpilot.com

Email: [email protected]

Facebook Group: Search “Land Pilot” on Facebook

Want help turning your leads into deals?

Check out Robin’s platform https://thelandpilot.com

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About Justin:

Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience.

Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platforms, and hands-on mentorship, he continues to help entrepreneurs scale with clarity and confidence.

Connect with Justin:

* Instagram: @thejustincolby

* YouTube: Justin Colby

* TikTok: @justincolbytsof

* LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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In this episode, I sit down with Mark Vincent Fansler, who went from carpenter to senior corporate executive, walked away from burnout, and built a vertically integrated commercial real estate empire operating across multiple states. We talk about the power of elite rooms, the vision he had at 17 that shaped his future, how one intentional conversation turned into a $120M opportunity, and why thinking bigger is the only way to win in business. This is a masterclass in community, commercial scale, and betting on yourself when no one else believes you deserve it.

About Mark:

Mark Vincent Fansler is a commercial mixed-use real estate developer and founder of the M Vincent Family of Companies, a vertically integrated real estate platform operating across multiple states. With over 40 years of experience, he specializes in large-scale mixed-use developments, creative capital structuring, and building real estate ecosystems that generate long-term wealth. Starting as a carpenter and rising to senior corporate leadership, Mark now leads multi-million-dollar commercial projects nationwide.

Connect with Mark Vincent Fansler

Website: https://mvincentassets.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markvincentfansler/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mark.fansler.1/

About Justin:

Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience.

Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platforms, and hands-on mentorship, he continues to help entrepreneurs scale with clarity and confidence.

Connect with Justin:

Instagram: @thejustincolby

YouTube: Justin Colby

TikTok: @justincolbytsof

LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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In this episode, I sat down with Bobby Kough, a West Point grad, former Army football player, and real estate operator who’s done over a thousand deals and is now running a direct-to-seller business pushing 300 deals a year. We broke down the “clear and reload” mindset he learned through sports psychology at West Point and how that reset tool translates perfectly to real estate when you’re getting rejected nonstop or taking hits on deals. Bobby shared how he started during COVID, how a quick early win gave him confidence, how one ugly “dumpster fire” house taught him the hard way to build a tight buy box, and why going to work for a proven operator helped him shave years off his learning curve. We also got into what it really takes to scale across multiple markets, the marketing channels they’re using, why direct mail still works, and why leadership and people are the hardest part of building a real company.

About Bobby:

Bobby Kough is a real estate entrepreneur and operator who helps build and scale direct-to-seller home buying organizations in St. Louis, Little Rock, and Wichita. He played football at West Point, graduated in 2015, and commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the U.S. Army. While serving, Bobby discovered BiggerPockets and began studying real estate in his spare time.
He purchased his first property in 2018, saw early success, and used that momentum to start buying distressed homes. After completing several deals, Bobby made a major career pivot — walking away from an engineering path to become an acquisitions representative, where he learned the business from the ground up by sitting at kitchen tables with sellers.

Since then, Bobby has partnered with operators to build full-scale organizations focused on sales, operations, and culture. Last year, his teams completed over 300 deals across multiple markets. Bobby is passionate about creating systems that serve sellers with integrity, developing strong leaders, and helping real estate teams grow sustainably while keeping people at the center of every transaction.

Connect with Bobby
Instagram: @bobbykough99 
Podcast: The Knock Podcast

About Justin:

Justin Colby is the host of The Entrepreneur DNA and The Science of Flipping podcasts and a best-selling author. He is a serial entrepreneur with over and a seasoned real estate investor with over 20 years of experience.

Driven by a passion to help entrepreneurs thrive, Justin created the Entrepreneur DNA community to support business owners in building wealth, systems, and long-term freedom. Through his podcasts, books, education platforms, and hands-on mentorship, he continues to help entrepreneurs scale with clarity and confidence.

Connect with Justin:

Instagram: @thejustincolby

YouTube: Justin Colby

TikTok: @justincolbytsof

LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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In this episode of The Science of Flipping, I sat down with Jason from MotivatedSellers.com, one of the top lead generation companies in the game. We got real about what it actually takes to convert a motivated seller lead—spoiler alert: it’s way more than a couple calls and a text. Jason breaks down why 27% of their leads close within a year, but 64% of those don’t go under contract until 90+ days after the lead comes in. We dive deep into real data, proper expectations, why follow-up is everything, and how you can stop blaming the leads and start closing more deals. If you’re running PPC, buying pay-per-leads, or thinking about lead gen in any serious way—this episode is your wake-up call.

Key Topics Covered:


What separates real lead converters from amateurs


The “30-touch” rule to get a contract


Why 64% of leads don’t close until after 90 days


Cost per lead and how to budget effectively


The ROI of proper follow-up systems


Why speed-to-lead and nurture systems win


How solopreneurs can compete with big acquisition teams


Why flexibility in exit strategies (Novation, Subto, Burr) changes everything


How to treat every lead like gold—even the $30 nationwide ones


Tips for getting started with motivated seller leads

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Want to know how much you might qualify for? Just head over to www.fundandgrow.com/flippingpq the free pre-qualification takes less than two minutes.

In this episode, I sat down with Ari Page from Fund & Grow to break down how business owners and real estate investors are still accessing massive amounts of capital at 0% interest—even while rates keep climbing. We talked about how to use business credit cards the right way, how card stacking works, how to fund deals, payroll, marketing, and rehabs without touching your own cash, and why this strategy beats hard money and traditional loans. If you’re serious about scaling your business, protecting cash flow, and using smarter money instead of expensive debt, this episode is a must-listen.

About Ari Page:

Ari Page is the founder and CEO of Fund & Grow, a leading business funding company that has helped over 30,000 entrepreneurs secure more than $2 billion in business credit. With nearly two decades of experience, Ari specializes in helping business owners and real estate investors access 0% interest business credit, optimize cash flow, and scale without relying on hard money, private lenders, or giving up equity. His expertise spans business credit cards, card stacking strategies, and long-term corporate financing that doesn’t rely on personal guarantees.

Connect with Ari Page

Website: https://www.fundandgrow.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aripage3

Company Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fundandgrow

About Justin:

After investing in real estate for over 18 years and almost 3000 deals done, Justin has created a business that generates 7 figures in active income through wholesaling and fix and flipping as well as accumulating millions of dollars of rental properties including 5 apartment buildings, 50+ single family homes, and 1 storage facility

Justins longevity in real estate is due to his ability to look around the corners, adapt to changing markets, perfecting Raising private capital, and focusing on lead generation which allows him to not just wholesale and fix & flip, but also accumulate wealth through long term holds.

His success in real estate led him to start The Entrepreneur DNA podcast and The Science Of Flipping podcast and education company, and REI LIVE where he’s actively doing deals with members. He has coached and mentored thousands of aspiring and active investors over the last decade.

Connect with Justin:

Instagram: @thejustincolby

YouTube: Justin Colby

TikTok: @justincolbytsof

LinkedIn: Justin Colby

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