10,000 Swamp Leaders

086_ Josette de Goede comes to the swamp to discuss her 40 years of leadership coaching and consulting experience. She brings a vibrant source of energy, education and wisdom to helping leaders develop more human effectiveness inside their organizations. We discuss her work helping leaders know themselves better by understanding their human “force fields”. She has a forthcoming book that addresses Professional Mastery, Human Capacity and Moral Mastery. We explore these elements and how to use them in ways that support the work of leading. Josette offers leadership resources for each of us.
Josette’s Links
Josette on LinkedIn
The Change Academy
EPL
Flink Veranderen
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Tracy Roberts visits the Swamp and shares her story of building her graphic design business. There are lessons here for all of us about the work required to build a successful business. But this is just the beginning of her story. What came next was Tracy’s biggest life challenge. With candor, resolve and determination she reminds us to take nothing for granted. Enjoy the “Art of Stroke.” 

Tracy’s Links
https://www.instagram.com/art_of_stroke/ 
https://www.michaeljfox.org/ 
https://www.parkinson.org/ 

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Dave Cooper returns to the Swamp to explore his Substack post “The Map That Wasn’t.” Dave's post caught my attention because he explores the real challenges the United States government faces as a result of going to war with Iran. Dave is uniquely qualified to comment on this topic. He brings over 20 years of service as a US Navy Seal that is followed up with two Master’s Degrees that focus on complexity theory and complex, adaptive systems. How he sees and speaks to the unfolding conflict offers a perspective most of us do not have. He then offers some ideas and moves that each of us could use to more effectively address the complex challenges we face in our lives and work. 

Dave’s Links
The Map That Wasn’t Substack March 16, 2026
The Leader Is Not The Engine Substack March 25, 2026
Dave’s First Podcast Visit to the Swamp May 9, 2022
Dave’s Medium Page
Contact Dave

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Janet Hawkes comes to the Swamp to share her insights and experiences from leading for 18 years inside Kent County Council in the United Kingdom. Leading inside Kent taught Jan the art and craft of navigating a political culture while providing services to the citizens of Kent. She managed significant culture change processes and programs. She speaks directly to what she learned from mistakes, how to develop future leaders and the importance of listening and responding to frontline staff. We end with Jan discussing her own personal and professional transition from Kent County Council to private life. 

Jan’s Links

LinkedIn

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Mau Espinosa joins me in the swamp to discuss his point of view on leadership and how he helps others through his “LET” approach to leadership development. Mau has travelled a challenging road to arrive at this moment. He is candid about his journey, how he learned from his mistakes and what he believes it takes to become a resilient leader of people and teams. Mau shares his Logic, Emotion, and Tactics approach to development and how it can work for all of us. Mau’s story of mistakes made, lessons learned, building resilience and finally achievement.
Mau’s Links
LinkedIn
Mau’s Website
G20
Mau’s Book
Mau’s Instagram  

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