All I want to do is talk about Madonna

Kenny and Mark lose their identities with the return of Maluma to Madame X. Topics include: Lauren D’Elia, Kaytranada, Starrah, cheap jokes, and the further adventures of Mr. Safe and Mrs. Crazy (and the dark shadow of “Soltera”). Plus - Freddy DeMann is ALIVE!!

Mark and Kenny gyrate their hips and discuss a rare cover (and banger) track on Madame X. Topics include: Blaya, tattoos, bisexuality and married women, cachaca, party sets, collaborators, and a deep dive into duet partner Anitta (and her father).

Kenny and Mark reflect on the first deluxe version track - a DIARISTIC ballad that may prove to be the true centerpiece of Madame X. Topics include: restless travel and searching, second guessing, campaign slogans, shuddering opportunities, lucidity, street singing, Mirwais’ sonic landscapes, Malawi, reflective logic, John Wells, childlike essence, Buddhist circles, Madonna’s Portuguese singing, Antartica, and the power of the 19th year. Plus, Mark finally considers a Madonna trance playlist and Kenny discovers a multitude of connections over a twenty-year time period. “Gotta get back to my journey!”

Mark and Kenny take a collective exhale while celebrating this exuberant anthem from Madame X. Topics include Krakebs, oppression, freedom, Jeff Bhasker, Saint James Joy dance parties, simplicity, bees, standing in lines, Morocco, producer choices, and how Madonna knew exactly what the Madame X album needed. “Who you talkin to?

Kenny and Mark go a little nuts over Madonna’s yearning vocals on this spare and compelling gem from Madame X. Topics include Grindr and vinyl, app fantasies and selfies, Jason Evigan and Mike Dean, self-knowledge and mystery, studying and safety, married men and married songs, trust and community, changing the narrative and attracting the drama, Katy Perry and Carly Rae Jepsen, and the thrillingly influential songwriting of Starrah. Plus, Kenny breaks down his experience with the “On Being” podcast w/ Jay Shetty and Mark shares what he thinks Confessions II will ultimately be all about.