@BEERISAC: OT/ICS Security Podcast Playlist

Podcast: PrOTect It All (LS 27 · TOP 10% what is this?)
Episode: AI in OT: Why Humans Stay in the Loop and the Junior Problem with Jori VanAntwerp
Pub date: 2026-09-14

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Work with Aaron: https://protectitallpod.com/work/

The book: https://protectitallpod.com/book/

This episode: https://protectitallpod.com/ep123/

The OT Security Starter Kit: https://protectitallpod.com/starter-kit/

AI is a consensus engine, and consensus on the internet is frequently wrong. So what does that mean for the people defending power plants, water systems, and factories with it?

In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow welcomes back Jori VanAntwerp, CEO and founder of EmberOT, for a completely unscripted conversation on AI in OT. Two practitioners who use AI aggressively every day make the case for restraint in exactly the places that matter.

Jori explains why human in the loop is non-negotiable: AI shapes a junior's output to look senior without the understanding underneath, so you have to be able to interrogate it. Aaron walks through his own sandbox discipline, where AI gets a folder and not the keys, and nothing goes in that he would not publish on the internet.

The conversation then turns to the OT reality behind AI-found vulnerabilities, why an attacker who can reach your HMI or PLC does not need your unpatched CVE, teaching AI your voice with markdown primers, the build-versus-buy MVP trap, the submarine principle for modular defense, and why an operator flipping to manual is still the save of last resort.

Underneath all of it is the workforce math nobody is doing on air: if one person plus AI does the work of five, nobody is training juniors, and no juniors today means no seniors in ten years. OT's aging-out workforce is the preview.

In this episode, you'll learn:

Why AI is a consensus engine, and why that framing predicts where it fails

Why human in the loop is not optional for anything that matters

How to sandbox AI in real workflows: a folder, not the keys

How to rank AI-found vulnerabilities against what an attacker in your OT network can actually do

How primers teach AI your voice, brand, and rules

The build versus buy trap: if a power company builds its own software, it is now a software company

The submarine principle: compartments, modular tooling, and swapping tools without ripping out the estate

Why analog fallbacks and operators keep saving critical infrastructure

The junior pipeline problem: no juniors today means no seniors in ten years

Why the entry-level job for OT cybersecurity is IT

Tune in for the most honest AI conversation the show has had, from the people who actually run it in OT.

About the guest:

Jori VanAntwerp is a two-time cybersecurity founder and CEO who has spent over two decades helping industrial and IT/OT organizations reduce risk, strengthen compliance, and mature the way they defend critical infrastructure. He has held executive and leadership roles at McAfee, FireEye, CrowdStrike, Dragos, and Gravwell before stepping into the founder seat, first at SynSaber and now as the Founder and CEO at EmberOT. The result is a vantage point that runs from the boardroom to the packet capture, from silicon to the cloud. At EmberOT, he is focused on bringing visibility, security, and risk quantification to the critical infrastructure the rest of the world takes for granted.

From EmberOT:

Want to see what is really happening in your OT environment? EmberOT provides flow-first, passive OT visibility and threat detection without requiring proprietary hardware.

Learn more about EmberOT: https://emberot.com/

Request a demo: https://www.emberot.com/request-a-demo/

Want to explore your own OT network traffic right now? Download the free EmberOT PCAP Analyzer: https://www.emberot.com/ot-pcap-analyzer/

Important Links:

Jori VanAntwerp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jvanantwerp/

EmberOT: https://emberot.com/

Jori's previous episodes: Ep 49, The Intersection of IT and OT: Highlights from S4 Conference: https://youtu.be/OuocvnZsKwU and Ep 29, Bridging IT and OT in Cybersecurity for Power Plants: https://youtu.be/0stFEr6krbY

Learn more about PrOTect IT All:

Work with Aaron: https://protectitallpod.com/work/

The book: https://protectitallpod.com/book/

This episode: https://protectitallpod.com/ep123/

The OT Security Starter Kit: https://protectitallpod.com/starter-kit/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrOTectITAll

Email: info@protectitall.co

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Facebook: https://facebook.com/protectitallpodcast

To be a guest or suggest a guest or episode, email info@protectitall.co.

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Podcast: Casos de Ciberseguridad Industrial
Episode: 2/4 Análisis de Gobierno y coordinación de la seguridad OT en el sector eléctrico
Pub date: 2026-09-14

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Este episodio analiza las principales fragilidades estructurales que presenta actualmente el ecosistema eléctrico desde una perspectiva OT. Se examinan las tensiones existentes entre la continuidad operativa, los avances en digitalización, las exigencias de la regulación y las necesidades de ciberseguridad.

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Podcast: Advanced Manufacturing Now (LS 35 · TOP 3% what is this?)
Episode: Can Humans and Robots Safely Work Side by Side
Pub date: 2026-09-08

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On this episode of Advanced Manufacturing Live, Ole Marius Hoel Rindal, PhD, co-founder of Sonair, will explain why most industrial robots are still caged even with increasing development of AI. Sonair has created what it says is the world's first safety-certified ultrasonic sensor. The technology may allow robots out of their cages while helping ensure human coworkers remain safe.

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Podcast: Nexus: A Claroty Podcast (LS 32 · TOP 5% what is this?)
Episode: Ben Gardiner on Hacking Truck Brake Controllers
Pub date: 2026-09-13

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Ben Gardiner, senior cybersecurity research engineer for the National Motor Freight Traffic Association (NMFTA), joins the Nexus Podcast to discuss research he published on a silent patch released by vendor Bendix addressing serious cybersecurity vulnerabilities in brake controllers found on tractor trailers. The vulnerabilities—which were updated as part of a safety recall—posed safety risks to drivers and others on the road. 
Ben explains how and why he chose to reverse-engineer the safety recall and how the vulnerabilities impact the security of any trailer-connected telematics devices, and also how they could be exploited at close range. 
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Podcast: ICS Cyber Talks Podcast
Episode: Adir Ben Hamo Director CISO @Phibro Animal Health on CISO's cyber & governance challenges & AI 2026
Pub date: 2026-09-10

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נסיון לחזור לשגרה (סוג של) בתקווה שימשיך....

חלפו למעלה מארבע שנים מאז הראיון הקודם שעשיתי עם אדיר, מאז העומס על הסיסו רק גדל בצורה אקספוננציאלית והצורך לקיים ממשל תאגידי בנושא סייבר הפך לחובה.   הדבר נכון לגופים גדולים ובינלאומיים ולמעשה לכול ארגון באשר הוא, במקום שאין גידור סיכונים ולמשתמש הקצה אין גבולות ברורים והבנה הנושא של "טעות" הופכת לסיכון ארגוני בל ישוער.

נחשון פינקו מארח את אדיר בן חמו דירקטור וסיסו גלובלי בחברת פיברו מוצרי בריאות לבעלי חיים על שילוב מערכות מידע ומערכות תפעוליות, שדרוג תשתיות ותוכנות בסביבת ייצור עלמנת לבנות מודל אחיד לפריסה העולמית.

תהליכי ממשל ארגוני

עבודה בסין מול רגולציות שונות מהמוכר והידוע של המערב

חילופי דורות וכניסת דורות צעירים בצוותי התפעול מביאים איתם מודעות סייבר, רצון לשנות ולהשתפר בעזרת טכנולוגיות עדכניות

ה SOC ככלי רב ערך וההבדל בין חברות בארה"ב וישראל

ההיי. איי שמדיר שינה מעיניו של כול סיסו

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