The Allplane Podcast

Every now and then is good to stop for a second, and take some time to think and assess what’s going on around you.
If you are following the advanced air mobility industry on a day to day basis it is easy to get carried away by a deluge of triumphalist announcements and press releases.
But what is real and what is mere hype?
Adrian Norris is someone that not only knows the aviation industry inside out after decades of experience in different capacities, but he’s also been an aircraft entrepreneur prior to becoming a consultant. So, he knows a thing or two about the challenges of developing and marketing a new aircraft type from scratch!
I’ve been following Adrian’s writings on Linkedin for quite some time. In the, he shares his critical analysis, based on objective, known facts, of some of the most prominent aviation projects going on in the world right now.
Does hydrogen aviation have a future? What are the prospects for electric aircraft developers? Who’s going to win the eVTOL race, if anyone?
These are just some of the topics we discuss with Adrian in today’s episode. What’s more, rather than remain in the domain of the abstract and general, we are going to name specific companies and try to assess their chances of success.
So, buckle up for a ride through the volatile world of advanced air mobility. We'll try to separate hype from reality in an industry in which high hopes and promising tech collide with challenging human and physical laws, challenging economics and shifting investor sentiment!

What if the lowest-hanging fruit in aviation decarbonization was not in the air, but waiting right in front of us, on the ground?
This is what David Valaer, founder and CEO of Green Taxi Aerospace thinks.
A pilot since the age of 16, David has spent his whole life surrounded by aircraft, either spending summers a bush pilot in Alaska, flying F-16 fighter jets for the US Air Force or, later on, scaling up and selling a successful helicopter tech company.
A few years ago, David became intrigued by the possibilities that a new generation of electric motors offered to solve one of the issues of everyday commercial aircraft operations: the amount of fuel wasted while taxiing inefficiently through airports.
Did you know that between 5 and 20% of fuel is consumed by airliners while they are on the ground? This happens because most of the time aircraft use their engines to move while on the tarmac, an incredibly wasteful process which in addition to producing unnecessary carbon emissions, also strains aircraft brakes and exposes the engines to foreign object damage.
What if the taxiing could be done with electric motors instead? Green Taxi is working on a system that, David promises, will be able to cut down drastically the amount of fuel aircraft consumer while taxiing. Airlines could be saving in the region of $250-300k per aircraft per year if this technology is finally implemented, not to speak of the related drop in emissions and wear and tear of equipment.
I was also intrigued by this story, so after speaking with David a few times at industry conferences in the last few months, I thought it was best if he could come onto the podcast to share all the details about this promising new technology that his company is developing.
So, tune in for an interesting chat about what Green Taxi can do for the environment and for the bottom line of airlines! (and also for some fascinating details about David’s earlier adventures in aviation!)

What is building a large scale battery-powered aircraft was more feasible than originally thought?
Our guest on this episode of the podcast, Daniel Rosen Jacobson co-founder and co-CEO of Elysian Aircraft, has come on the podcast to explain how asking the right questions and conducting scientific research laid the groundwork for the truly ambitious project that is the E9X electric airliner.
While most electric aircraft projects have focused on the development of smaller aircraft, Elysian Aircraft is taking on the mainstream air travel market with a zero-emissions aircraft concept capable of carrying up to 90 passengers over distances of 1,000 kilometers.
This is certainly a bold proposition, but one that, Daniel explains, is well grounded in science and engineering principles laid out by two papers co-authored by researchers at the Technical University of Delft, in The Netherlands.
What’s more, Elysian Aircraft is backed by Panta Holdings, a company that is no strangers to the world of aviation since it is the owner of Fokker Services Group, which is the remaining part of the iconic Dutch aircraft maker of the same name, now providing a range of MRO and other technical services to aircraft operators.
Elysian’s take on the future of zero emissions aircraft has also attracted the interest of consolidated industry players such as the Air France-KLM group and leasing firm TrueNoord, both of which have signed collaboration agreements with Elysian Aircraft with a view to potentially using the E9X aircraft one day in the future.
This will, for now, have to wait a few years, as Elysian Aircraft refines its concept and builds and tests its first prototypes.
In the meantime, though, we can listen to Elysian Aircraft’s co-founder and co-CEO, Daniel Rosen Jacobson, explaining the key elements of this projected aircraft and the role he expects it to play in the future of commercial aviation!

Is the airship ready for a big comeback? This is not some sort of retro-futurist sci-fi scenario, since there are a handful of companies working to develop a new generation modern-day iteration of this iconic type of aircraft.
But, in fact, airships and, more generally, lighter than air aircraft never fully went away. The US Navy, for example, operated blimps until 1962 (and experimented with them again in the 2000s). Airships have also been used for advertising purposes and, for some time, even Richard Branson’s Virgin Group had an airship division.
Our guests today know all this very well because they experienced it first hand. In fact, I doubt there are many other people in the world right now with the sort of experience and knowledge about how to operate an airship.
Mike Kendrick, Mark Dorey and James Dexter boast decades of combined experience managing airships and they are now the management team of Straighline Aviation, a British startup that aims to become the world’s top airship operator.
If there is a technological advance that has prompted this renewed interest in the airship category, it is the development of the Air Cushion Landing System (ACLS), which enables airships to land, load and unload at pretty much any flat spot that is large enough. This double-chambered airship concept has been under development by Lockheed Martin and, later by, a spin-off company called AT² Aerospace, for about two decades.
As this technology approaches maturity, Straightline Aviation has been also refining its plans to deploy it commercially, with the plan to become the world’s first airship-based air cargo operator.
On today’s episode we assess what are the chances of this happening soon and what are the requirements for a successful commercial air ship operation. We also talk about Mike Kendrick’s earlier ventures in the airship space and how the team is preparing for a nonstop circumnavigation of the globe as soon as the first unit of this novel airship type becomes available.
So, tune in for a fascinating talk about airships and the role they may play in the future of aviation.

Among the top contenders in the eVTOL space, EVE Air Mobility stands out—not because it's closer than others to entering service or because it generates more media headlines.
In fact, what sets EVE aside from the pack is the backing of one of the world’s most successful and technologically advanced aircraft makers, Embraer, which has opted to move slowly but steadily in the field of advanced air mobility.
And leading EVE Air Mobility on the commercial front is our guest in this episode of the podcast, Megha Bhatia, the company’s Chief Commercial Officer.
In this conversation with Megha we cover the latest developments at EVE, including the firm’s participation at the 2025 Paris Air Show, where it showcased a full-scale mock up of its eVTOL aircraft, as well as its commercial traction and future prospects.
We also cover in-depth the 20-year global market outlook report which EVE published earlier this year and discuss what is the role EVE Air Mobility wants to play in the highly competitive advanced air mobility market and its unique selling points.
So, if you are interested in what’s going on in the nascent eVTOL industry and wish to learn more about one of its most promising projects, tune in for this fascinating conversation with Megha Bhatia, Chief Commercial Officer of EVE Air Mobility!