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The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

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    From the Archive: It’s All About the House – What You Need to Know Before You Decide to Keep It with Tami Wollensak on Divorce & Beyond #423

    25-05-2026 | 47 Min.
    The question comes up in almost every divorce: what happens to the house? It is usually one of the biggest assets of the marriage, one of the biggest debts, and one of the most emotionally loaded decisions people face. Wanting to keep the house and actually being able to keep the house are two very different things.

    This week Susan is bringing back one of the most downloaded archived conversations from the Divorce and Beyond library, a conversation with Tami Wollensak, licensed mortgage loan originator and Certified Divorce Lending Professional, walking through the real financial realities of keeping the marital home. 

    Together, Susan and Tami unpack what it actually takes to keep the house in a divorce, from refinancing challenges and equity buyouts to qualifying for a mortgage on a single income, the hidden costs of homeownership, and why making this decision without proper financial planning can create serious problems long after the ink is dry.

    Covered in this episode:

    Why wanting to keep the house and being able to keep the house are two very different things, and what a Certified Divorce Lending Professional can do to help close that gap

    How equity is calculated, why the purchase price is not the value, and what it means to buy out your spouse's share as part of the refinance

    Why maintenance, alimony, and child support do not automatically count as qualifying income and what lenders actually need to see

    How a missed mortgage payment can drop credit scores by hundreds of points and why "it was their responsibility" has never once removed a negative mark from a credit report

    Why getting a home inspection before finalizing your divorce agreement is one of the most overlooked and important steps you can take

    KEEPING THE HOUSE: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE YOU SIGN

    Almost everyone walks into divorce negotiations with the same instinct: I want to keep the house. It is understandable. It is the family home. It is where the children have put their heads on pillows for years. But signing a settlement agreement without knowing whether you can actually execute it is not a successful negotiation. Some of the most important things to understand before you commit, are discussed in this episode:

    Know the fair market value of your home today, not the purchase price, and understand what the actual equity is and how it will be divided

    Understand that keeping the house means refinancing into your name alone, which means qualifying on your income alone, and your payment will be based on current market rates, not what you are paying today

    Work with a divorce mortgage professional early in the process, before the settlement agreement is signed, so you can generate real options rather than make decisions based on guesses

    Get a home inspection before finalizing the agreement, just as you would when buying a new home, so you know exactly what you are signing up for

    If your spouse agrees to stay on the mortgage temporarily, set up protections: require advance notice if a payment may be missed, and request a duplicate mortgage statement so you can monitor it yourself

    The goal is not to win the house. The goal is to make the decision that sets you up for the strongest future. Get the answers, both good and bad, and then decide.

    Referenced Episodes from the Archive:

    How to Get Your Act Together So that You Can Tackle Your Divorce with Alex Beattie of Divide & Thrive

    The Solution for Tackling the Divorce Detour with Storey Jones, Creator of dtour.life

    It's All About the House: What You Need to Think About Before You Decide to Keep It with Tami Wollensak

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    This Week's Sponsors: 

    Hello Divorce - Hello Divorce is a modern platform designed to support people before, during, and beyond divorce, providing legal information, tools, and access to professionals who help individuals navigate the process more thoughtfully.

    Resources created specifically for Divorce & Beyond listeners are available at HelloDivorce.com/Susan.

    Yumiyu - YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic.

    Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Be sure to use Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!

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    This week's guest: Tami Wollensak

    Tami Wollensak is a Divorce Mortgage Specialist and VP Loan Consultant with New American Funding (NMLS #1963450), bringing over 30 years of experience in the mortgage industry. She specializes in helping individuals navigate one of the most overlooked and misunderstood aspects of divorce: what happens to the marital home.

    After going through her own divorce, Tami saw firsthand how financial decisions made during this time can have long lasting consequences. Today, she works closely with individuals, attorneys, and mediators to bridge the gap between divorce agreements and mortgage lending, ensuring that what is decided on paper can actually be executed in real life.

    Tami’s approach is calm, strategic, and solution focused. She helps her clients understand their options clearly so they can move forward with confidence, whether that means keeping the home, selling it, or buying again in the future.

    She is the founder of Empowered Uncoupling, a platform dedicated to helping people transition from endings into new beginnings with clarity, confidence, and financial empowerment. For those navigating this decision now, Tami offers a simple starting point with her guide, Can I Keep the House?, along with a complimentary 15 minute consultation to help bring clarity to the next steps.

    Website https://www.empowereduncoupling.com

    Book a 15-Minute Consultation https://calendly.com/tamiwollensak/15min

    Ebook: Can I Keep the House? https://iwantthehouse.com

    YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@empowereduncoupling

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tamiwollensak

    LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamiwollensak

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    About Our Host: Susan E. Guthrie, Esq.

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the nation's leading family law and mediation attorneys, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity and strategy. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker and trainer.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast and has been cited in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC Chicago Today, among others.

    As the creator and host of Divorce & Beyond, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with millions of downloads and an Apple Top 100 Self-Help designation, Susan brings together top legal and mental health experts to help listeners move through divorce and into what comes next.

    Learn more at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/about

    Disclaimer: The commentary and opinions shared on this podcast are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state regarding your specific situation.
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    Easier Now, Harder Later: Parenting Plans That Actually Work with Gabrielle Hartley on Divorce & Beyond #422

    18-05-2026 | 47 Min.
    Do you know what almost no one tells you when you are creating a parenting plan? Some of the biggest co-parenting battles after divorce will not be over the things you think. It may not be the major custody decision or where the children will primarily live. It may be the late pickup, the unanswered text, the forgotten backpack, or the soccer registration deadline no one thought to clarify.

    That is why Susan Guthrie is joined by Gabrielle Hartley, attorney, mediator, parenting conflict expert, TEDx speaker, bestselling author of Better Apart: The Radically Positive Way to Separate, and creator of Mediator Gabby. Gabrielle has spent decades helping families navigate separation with greater clarity, less conflict, and better outcomes for children. Together, they get practical about why so many parenting plans break down after the divorce is finalized and what it actually takes to build one that holds up in real life.

    This conversation is for anyone creating a parenting plan, already co-parenting, or supporting someone who is. Because choosing what feels easier right now has a way of creating a much more difficult problem to solve later.

    Covered in this episode:

    Why most co-parenting conflict has nothing to do with bad parenting

    What makes a parenting plan fall apart once real life takes over

    How the "easier now, harder later" trap quietly sets families up for more conflict

    Why clarity matters more than detail when building a durable parenting plan

    How Mediator Gabby helps parents arrive prepared, stay focused, and reach better agreements

    WHAT IF AN AI MEDIATOR COULD HELP YOU BUILD A PARENTING PLAN BEFORE YOU EVER WALK INTO A ROOM? 

    There are approximately 29-million children living in single-parent families in the United States, and the vast majority of their parents never have access to a lawyer, a mediator, or any professional guidance at all. Mediator Gabby, Gabrielle's AI-supported parenting plan tool was built with those families in mind. 

    Using this custom AI tool, each parent completes a guided onboarding on their own before any joint conversation begins, working through the full landscape of a parenting plan so that by the time they sit down together, they already know where they agree, where they do not, and what needs to be worked through.

    Here is what that preparation can do for families:

    Save three to five hours of introductory conversation before mediation even begins

    Help parents arrive focused and prepared rather than reactive and overwhelmed

    Surface the details most people do not think to address until they become conflict points

    Lower the emotional temperature in the room so real resolution can happen faster

    Keep the process moving forward instead of stalling on issues that feel impossible in the moment

    A parenting plan is the operating system for your family's next chapter. The clearer and more intentional it is from the start, the less conflict it creates down the road, and the better the experience for your children.

    FREE DOWNLOAD: Parenting Plan Reality Check: The Questions Every Co-Parent Needs to Answer Before Finalizing a Parenting Plan + Companion Article  Find the article and free download on the website at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/latest-episode

    Referenced Episodes from the Archive:

    The 7 Most-Asked Divorce Questions on ChatGPT, Answered by a Top Family Law Attorney with Susan Guthrie

    Discovery Demystified: Why Fact-Finding is the Most Important Step in Your Divorce with Susan Guthrie

    Conflict Resolution Made Easy: Managaing the Five Destructive Behaviors We All Have with Gabrielle Hartley

    Gabrielle Hartley Has the Secret to Helping Us All Get Along Better and It Starts with Y.E.S.

    Is Your Divorce Taking Too Long? BLITZ IT and BE DONE with Gabrielle Hartley

    The Best Thing to Happen to Divorce in Ages with Very Special Guest, Gabrielle Hartley

    If this episode helped you, please share it and leave a review. It genuinely helps the show reach the people who need it most.

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    Meet This Week’s Guest:

    Gabrielle Hartley is a New York and Massachusetts divorce attorney, mediator, author, two-time TEDx speaker, and legal tech founder working at the intersection of family dispute resolution and technology.

    She is the founder of Better Parenting Plan and creator of Mediator Gabby, a technology-supported platform designed to help parents and family professionals reduce conflict and build clearer, more durable parenting agreements.

    Gabrielle is also consulting with the American Arbitration Association to help launch its first-ever family mediation panel. A former court attorney to Hon. Jeffrey Sunshine in the New York Supreme Court, Matrimonial Division, she has spent more than twenty-five years helping families resolve complex divorce and custody matters constructively.

    She is the author of Better Apart and The Secret to Getting Along and serves on the ABA Dispute Resolution Council.

    Website: BetterParentingPlan.com

    Instagram: http://instagram.com/gabriellehartleyesq

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    This Week's Sponsors: 

    Hello Divorce - Hello Divorce is a modern platform designed to support people before, during, and beyond divorce, providing legal information, tools, and access to professionals who help individuals navigate the process more thoughtfully.

    Resources created specifically for Divorce & Beyond listeners are available at HelloDivorce.com/Susan.

    Yumiyu - YUMIYU Jewelry is Susan’s favorite source for meaningful, handcrafted jewelry designed to empower women and celebrate individuality. Each piece is made with care, using high-quality materials like real gold and vermeil, and is water-resistant, non-tarnish, and hypoallergenic.

    Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today! Be sure to use Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!

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    If This Episode Helped You

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share it with someone who needs clear, reliable guidance right now. And if you have a moment, leaving a five-star review makes a real difference in helping this show reach the people who need it most.

    Follow Divorce & Beyond

    Website: divorceandbeyondpod.com

    Instagram: instagram.com/divorceandbeyondpod

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    About Our Host: Susan E. Guthrie, Esq.

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the nation's leading family law and mediation attorneys, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity and strategy. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker and trainer.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast and has been cited in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC Chicago Today, among others.

    As the creator and host of Divorce & Beyond, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with millions of downloads and an Apple Top 100 Self-Help designation, Susan brings together top legal and mental health experts to help listeners move through divorce and into what comes next.

    Learn more at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/about

    Disclaimer: The commentary and opinions shared on this podcast are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state regarding your specific situation.
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    From the Archive: What You Need to Know About Your Money When You Start a Divorce from Hollis Hardiman, CDFA #421

    11-05-2026 | 40 Min.
    One of the biggest fears people face when contemplating divorce is the financial unknown. If you are sitting out there right now feeling overwhelmed, unsure where to begin, or worried about money, this conversation was made for you.

    This week Susan is bringing you one of the most listened to and most shared episodes from the Divorce and Beyond archive, a conversation with certified divorce financial analyst Hollis Hardiman, also a certified mediator and certified collaborative professional, walking through the foundational financial preparation that can make such a difference when first starting the divorce process.

    Together, Susan and Hollis get into what it really takes to protect your finances as you enter the process, from building the right professional support team to understanding what your household actually costs to approaching the big decisions, like the house, with clarity and an open mind instead of fear.

    Covered in this episode:

    Why money is the number one fear people face when contemplating divorce and why the right professional support team changes everything

    How to start building a picture of your finances from what you already have access to, even if your spouse handled the money

    Why alimony and support are temporary and what it means to plan now for when they end

    How a CDFA helps clients protect their finances not just during the divorce process but for their financial future as well

    HOW TO HANDLE THE MOST COMMON QUESTION ASKED DURING DIVORCE, "CAN I KEEP THE HOUSE?"

    Almost everyone walks into the divorce process asking the same thing: can I keep the house? It is an understandable instinct. But when keeping the house becomes a fixed position rather than one option among many, it can stall the process, drain resources, and leave you worse off financially in the long run. Some things to consider, as discussed in this episode include: 

    One household income divided into two households means the math will not work the same way

    Understand what it would actually cost to keep the house: refinancing, mortgage qualification, maintenance, and carrying costs

    Explore all the options: keeping, selling, renting, downsizing

    You can put the puzzle together a lot of different ways in divorce, but only if you stay open to looking at all the pieces

    The goal is not to win the house. The goal is to make the decision that sets you up for the strongest financial future. Get the answers, both good and bad, and then decide.

    Referenced Episodes from the Archive:

    How to Get Your Act Together So that You Can Tackle Your Divorce with Alex Beattie of Divide & Thrive

    The Solution for Tackling the Divorce Detour with Storey Jones, Creator of dtour.life 

    It’s All About the House: What You Need to Think About Before You Decide to Keep It with Tami Wollensak

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    This Week’s Guest: Hollis Hardiman, CDFA

    Hollis provides financial, retirement, and wealth management services to her clients. She specializes in helping people navigate major life transitions including divorce, the loss of a spouse, and preparing for retirement.

    As a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), Hollis firmly believes in building a support team of divorce professionals including attorneys, mediators, and therapists that can help her clients make the best decisions during these emotional times. As a child of divorced parents, Hollis witnessed firsthand the consequences when sound financial decisions are not made.

    Hollis is certified in both mediation and collaborative divorce. She is well trained to advocate for one party or serve as a neutral party for the couple during the divorce process. While being part of the support system with the attorneys and mediators, Hollis is able to guide her clients through their short-term and long-term settlement options.

    Hollis grew up in Fairfield, CT, and now splits her time between Fairfield, CT, and Palm City, FL. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her husband and extended family, walking her two dogs, and playing tennis.

    Investment advice offered through Merit Financial Group, LLC, an SEC registered investment adviser.

    Phone:  203.423.5985

    E-mail:  [email protected]

    Website:  https://divorceresourcect.com/about/

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    If This Episode Helped You

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share it with someone who needs clear, reliable guidance right now. And if you have a moment, leaving a five-star review makes a real difference in helping this show reach the people who need it most.

    Follow Divorce & Beyond

    Website: divorceandbeyondpod.com

    Instagram: instagram.com/divorceandbeyondpod

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    About Our Host: Susan E. Guthrie, Esq.

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the nation's leading family law and mediation attorneys, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity and strategy. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker and trainer.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast and has been cited in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC Chicago Today, among others.

    As the creator and host of Divorce & Beyond, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with millions of downloads and an Apple Top 100 Self-Help designation, Susan brings together top legal and mental health experts to help listeners move through divorce and into what comes next.

    Learn more at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/about

    Disclaimer: The commentary and opinions shared on this podcast are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state regarding your specific situation.
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    When Your Partner Becomes a Stranger: Renowned Divorce Attorney Marilyn Chinitz Reveals the Red Flags You Didn’t See Coming on Divorce & Beyond #420

    04-05-2026 | 55 Min.
    Most people who go through divorce will tell you the same thing: "I was blindsided." But were they really? Or were the signs there all along, just not recognized for what they were?

    That is the question at the center of this conversation, and Susan Guthrie is bringing in one of the true icons of family law to answer it. Marilyn Chinitz, partner at Blank Rome and renowned matrimonial attorney with more than four decades of experience, has sat across from thousands of clients who never saw it coming. She knows the red flags. She knows the financial blind spots. And she does not mince words.

    Right now, a memoir is taking over the national conversation. Strangers: A Memoir of Marriage by Belle Burden has ignited a bellwether of attention. This book has people everywhere asking, "How did she not see it?" Susan and Marilyn use this moment as a launching pad to go somewhere deeper: the patterns, the red flags, and the financial realities that every person in a marriage or contemplating one needs to understand. 

    Covered in this episode:

    The red flags hiding in plain sight, including subtle communication patterns, financial avoidance, and how your spouse treats others 

    A client story that shows exactly how a prenup gives you a heads up about who you are marrying

    How trusts work in a marriage, why they are often set up completely legitimately, and when they cross into "funny business" that courts will not tolerate

    Why you do not divorce the same person you married, and what that really means for how you need to prepare

    THIS CONVERSATION ALSO DIGS INTO WHY BEING AN EQUAL PARTNER MEANS BEING AN INFORMED ONE 

    Assets could be held in a trust you did not know about. The home could be rented. The wealth could be encumbered by debt. And if you never asked, you may not find out until you are sitting across from a divorce attorney.

    Ask to sit down and go through the finances together, even once a year

    Review bank statements, tax returns, and credit card accounts

    Understand what is in your name, what is joint, and what is held in a trust

    If your spouse brushes you off or refuses, that is a red flag worth taking seriously

    Get professionals around you: a financial advisor, a forensic accountant, and an attorney, even before anything goes wrong

    This is not about suspicion. It is about being an equal partner and an informed one. The time to understand what you have is during a happy, intact marriage, not across a conference table from a divorce attorney. You are better off having that conversation early.

    FREE DOWNLOAD: The Red Flags You Didn’t See Checklist + Companion Article

    Susan has created two resources to help you move from hearing this to actually using it.The Red Flags You Didn't See Checklist walks you through the patterns discussed in this episode and gives you a way to reflect more intentionally on your own situation. The companion article goes deeper into the topic, drawing from this broader conversation and what is playing out in real life right now. Both are available at divorceandbeyondpod.com.

    If this episode helped you, please share it and leave a review. It genuinely helps the show reach the people who need it most.

    Books Referenced:
    Strangers: A Memoir of Marriage, Belle Burden 

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    This Week’s Guest: Marilyn Chinitz

    Marilyn Chinitz is a Partner at Blank Rome with 40 years of experience in every facet of family law. She is known for representing A-list celebrities and influential, high-profile clients in cases that have received national and international attention. 

    https://www.blankrome.com/people/marilyn-b-chinitz#biography
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/marilyn-chinitz-a262a91b/ 
    https://www.linkedin.com/company/blank-rome-llp/ 
    https://www.instagram.com/marilynchinitz/ 

    This Week's Sponsor: Hello Divorce

    Hello Divorce is a modern platform designed to support people before, during, and beyond divorce, providing legal information, tools, and access to professionals who help individuals navigate the process more thoughtfully.

    Resources created specifically for Divorce & Beyond listeners are available at HelloDivorce.com/Susan.

    If This Episode Helped You

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share it with someone who needs clear, reliable guidance right now. And if you have a moment, leaving a five-star review makes a real difference in helping this show reach the people who need it most.

    Follow Divorce & Beyond

    Website: divorceandbeyondpod.com

    Instagram: instagram.com/divorceandbeyondpod

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    About Our Host: Susan E. Guthrie, Esq.

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the nation's leading family law and mediation attorneys, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity and strategy. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker and trainer.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast and has been cited in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC Chicago Today, among others.

    As the creator and host of Divorce & Beyond, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with millions of downloads and an Apple Top 100 Self-Help designation, Susan brings together top legal and mental health experts to help listeners move through divorce and into what comes next.

    Learn more at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/about

    Disclaimer: The commentary and opinions shared on this podcast are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state regarding your specific situation.
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    This Isn’t a Bad Divorce. It’s Domestic Violence. And We Need to Stop Getting It Wrong with Susan Guthrie on Divorce & Beyond #419

    27-04-2026 | 24 Min.
    Over the past couple of weeks, headlines have described a tragic murder suicide involving a couple going through a divorce, once again framing it as a "contentious divorce." Let's be very clear about something: divorce did not cause what happened. Divorce does not cause murder. Domestic violence causes murder.

    That is why Susan Guthrie is doing this difficult but important solo episode. She walks through the patterns of abuse, the high risk indicators that change a situation entirely, why the moment of separation is so dangerous, and what a thoughtful, strategic exit actually looks like.

    This conversation moves from awareness to action, so if any part of what you hear feels familiar, you have something calm and structured to carry with you as you think through your next steps.

    Covered in this episode:

    Why the moment of separation is often the most dangerous time, and how understanding that allows you to move more thoughtfully and strategically.

    The high risk indicators to take seriously: strangulation, threats to kill, access to firearms, stalking, extreme jealousy or control, and statements like "if I can't have you, no one will."

    What a thoughtful, strategic exit actually looks like, from quiet planning and digital safety to building a small, trusted circle of support.

    Why your children and pets must be part of your safety plan from the very beginning.

    ⚠️ IMPORTANT: ACCESS TO A FIREARM SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES YOUR RISK

    If there is access to a firearm and you are leaving, you have to take that seriously. It significantly increases risk. This is where having professional guidance before you leave, and as you are making your plan, becomes critical.

    Find a domestic violence advocate

    Find a divorce coach who specializes in helping people experiencing domestic abuse or violence

    Meet with an attorney who understands the risks

    Include your children and your pets in your safety plan from the beginning

    Do not announce your plan before you are ready, as that can increase your risk

    This is not a time for informal arrangements. The structure of your plan will matter, and getting guidance early on and plotting your strategy so that it is fully developed can make a meaningful difference.  

    FREE DOWNLOAD: Your Safety First, A Practical Exit and Protection Plan for High-Risk Relationships

    Susan created a companion guide to go along with this episode. In a moment like this, you should not have to remember everything you are hearing on a podcast episode. This is a calm, structured, step-by-step resource to help you think through your situation and your next steps. Find it here.

    If this episode helped you, please share it and leave a review. It genuinely helps the show reach the people who need it most.

    Referenced Episodes from the Archive

    Everything You Need to Know to Get a Restraining Order with Attorney Uswah Khan

    Empowered Advocacy: Effectively Sharing Your Abuse Story and Achieving Justice with Beverly Price

    Walking on Eggshells in Family Court: Meet Aimee Says, the AI Tool Transforming Survivor Support with Anne Wintemute

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    Aimee Says: Support for Survivors Creating a Safety Plan

    Aimee Says is a private, AI-powered tool designed to support survivors navigating post-separation abuse by helping you document experiences, identify patterns of coercive control, and organize your story with greater clarity. This can be especially valuable when creating a safety plan, preparing to communicate with professionals, or navigating the legal system. It is a supportive tool, not a substitute for professional help, and if you are in immediate danger, please contact a domestic violence hotline or local resource.

    Learn more here: https://www.aimeesays.com/en/home?via=susan and use code SUSAN for a special listener offer.

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    This Week's Sponsor: Blue Mercury

    Treat yourself to luxury skincare, makeup, and fragrance favorites from Blue Mercury, your destination for beauty and self-care. Divorce & Beyond listeners receive 15% off their first order when they use the special link in the show notes. Because you deserve to look and feel your best,  inside and out.

    You must use this link to receive the 15% off on your first Blue Mercury order: https://divorcebeyond.com/Blue-Mercury

    If This Episode Helped You

    Subscribe to Divorce & Beyond so you never miss an episode. Share it with someone who needs clear, reliable guidance right now. And if you have a moment, leaving a five-star review makes a real difference in helping this show reach the people who need it most.

    Follow Divorce & Beyond

    Website: divorceandbeyondpod.com

    Instagram: instagram.com/divorceandbeyondpod

    ______________________________________________________________________

    About Our Host: Susan E. Guthrie, Esq.

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the nation's leading family law and mediation attorneys, with more than 35 years of experience helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity and strategy. She is the Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, a best-selling author, and a sought-after speaker and trainer.

    Susan recently appeared as the featured expert on The Oprah Podcast and has been cited in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The Washington Post, NewsNation, and NBC Chicago Today, among others.

    As the creator and host of Divorce & Beyond, ranked in the top 1% of all podcasts worldwide with millions of downloads and an Apple Top 100 Self-Help designation, Susan brings together top legal and mental health experts to help listeners move through divorce and into what comes next.

    Learn more at https://divorceandbeyondpod.com/about

    Disclaimer: The commentary and opinions shared on this podcast are for informational and entertainment purposes only and do not constitute legal advice. Consult a licensed attorney in your state regarding your specific situation.
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