The DRIFT Transitions Podcast

Decoupling and techno-optimism be damned, there is a harsh biophysical reality behind our energy and climate crisis: we're fucking fucked. What does it means to teach that truth to students, and what should you teach after you've taught that truth?
In this episode, Wouter Mulders and Mayte Beekman talk to Ginie Servant-Miklos about education under collapse. Ginie is an Associate Professor of at Erasmus University Rotterdam, director of the Bildung Climate School and the author of Pedagogies of Collapse. Societal collapse represents the most fundamental change imaginable, so that should be of interest to transition makers all around. But she also argues that there's a hidden psychological side as well: phone addiction, substance use, and the slow, grinding "small-t trauma" of a system that leaves little room to cope.
The conversation also turns a critical eye on insular academia itself, including spaces like DRIFT. She makes a case for "imperfect solidarity": staying engaged with people whose politics or circumstances don't match your own, rather than retreating into like-minded bubbles. The result is less a doom-laden forecast than a practical philosophy: tell people the truth, then give them the tools to build a meaningful life within it.
Useful links: 
- About the Bildung Climate School: https://www.bildungclimateschool.com/ 
- About Ginie's book, Pedagogies of Collapse: https://www.education4socialchange.com/book-pedagogies-of-collapse
- The start of the episode mentions the upcoming online, international edition of our long-running Transition Management course. If you'd like to be kept up to date on registration for this course, please leave your details here: https://forms.cloud.microsoft/e/CYxmnsJzzB

After we've spent the first of these two RESHARE episode in a literal living lab that also does a little bit of mobility sharing in Oslo, Norway, we thought it best to speak to experts who were looking at similar initiatives across Europe. How can we mix shared housing and mobility in less densely populated areas?
We hear from Paola Pucci and Giovanni Lanza from the Politecnico di Milano. These researchers are composing an atlas of accessibility practices. In doing so, they are finding ways in which the commons can come through to make mobility become more resilient and sustainable, even when the individuals involved have different aims. 
But commoning is not a ready-made cure-all. In places where realizing mobility and accessibility is not considered viable for state and market actors, you might think that the community will automatically step up. But community initiatives can struggle with a lack of capital as well. So often, the smart move for initiatives is not to ignore companies and governments, but to team up. And in their atlas, Paola and Giovanni have included some prime examples where the housing domain can help out shared mobility initiatives.
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This podcast was produced as part of the Reshare Project, with funding from the Research Council of Norway. DRIFT has worked on RESHARE together with the Norwegian University of Life Sciences (NMBU) and the Institute of Transport Economics (TOI). To learn more, go to https://www.nmbu.no/en/research/projects/reshare
Special thanks to: Marius Kooij for editing, Walvisnest for music, Audrey Wientjes for voice-over and Emil Beemer and Floor van den Elzen for feedback and support.

A meal, a toolkit or... salt? What was the last time you shared something with your neighbors? In the first of two episodes made possible by the RESHARE project, The DRIFT Transitions podcast goes to Oslo to explore the promise of shared housing an mobility.
Because what if we could greatly accelerate shared mobility, which is key for future transport systems that don't break the planet and ruin where we live, by combining it with a way of living in which we are less isolated and more connected? 
We talk to Emilia Wigum of OBOS Living Lab about their experiments with shared forms of housing to bolster community care and sustainability initiatives. With looming crises, rising prices and demographic changes imminent, she dreams of cities and communities that work more like a living lab, experimenting with flexible and shared housing and mobility.
We then hear from Tanu Priya Uteng, senior researcher at the Institute of Transport Economics and RESHARE project leader. She argues that there are huge benefits to connecting how we design and use housing and mobility. But, warns Tanu, where there's a value for the collective, yet the responsibility rests on individual shoulders, finer-grained rules and incentives are needed to make the leap, otherwise we get stuck.
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This podcast was produced as part of the Reshare Project, with funding from the Research Council of Norway. DRIFT has worked on RESHARE together with the Norwegian University of Life Sciences (NMBU) and the Institute of Transport Economics (TOI). To learn more, go to https://www.nmbu.no/en/research/projects/reshare
Special thanks to: Marius Kooij for editing, Walvisnest for music, Audrey Wientjes for voice-over and Emil Beemer and Floor van den Elzen for feedback and support.

*heads-up: somewhere in this episode you may experience something strange in the audio. But don't worry, it's all part of the plan*
In the final episode of 'Whoosh', we're ripping off a band-aid. What if, despite the opportunity to make renewable energy and ecology go hand in hand, there is a clash? What does it look, sound and feel like when offshore wind energy development is at odds with nature conservation? And what can help balanced decision-making when economy, carbon accounting and the true value of nature meet?
To experience this, we ended up not far away from where we started this podcast series, in Pegwell Bay in the UK. Here we're speaking to head ranger Louis Grover, who is joined by Nina Jones, who works for the Kent Wildlife trust. We discuss the pressures on the local park and reserve, their efforts to halt the installation of offshore wind energy infrastructure and the thinking behind this Rethink Sealink campaign.
And then, our podcast takes a strange sonic turn. We can't tell you too much beforehand, but it certainly provides food for thought when it comes to listening to underrepresented voices in transitions.
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This is ‘Whoosh’, a three-part audio series on listening to different voices in the wind energy transition. ‘Whoosh’ is produced by DRIFT as part of the JustWind4All project. 
Special thanks to: speakers Louis Grover and Nina Jones, Marius Kooij for editing and music, Sheng-Wen Lo for his thoughts, artistry and enthusiasm, Audrey Wientjes for voice-over, Igno Notermans for feedback and support and Julia Wittmayer as well as the entire JustWind4All project team for making this possible.

This is ‘Whoosh’, a three-part audio series on listening to different voices in the wind energy transition. ‘Whoosh’ is produced by DRIFT as part of the JustWind4All project. 
In these three episodes, colleagues Wouter Mulders and Stéphanie van der Raad are trying to shift perspectives by listening to sounds that they believe deserve to be better heard when it comes to offshore wind energy development. 
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In the second episode of ‘Whoosh’, Wouter and Stéphanie continue their journey into the complexities of the wind energy transition — this time, from the perspective of those who share the skies and seas. What happens when the drive for clean energy collides with fragile ecosystems?
They speak with Samuel Wrobel from the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds, who shares how offshore wind farms are reshaping marine habitats and affecting seabird populations, with 10 out of 25 species already on the red list. From avoidant birds rerouting their migration paths to the seabed forming an artificial reef on wind turbines, there are many unseen consequences. They talk to Cristina Madrid López from the University of Barcelona who approaches the wind transition from a systems perspective. As a modeller, she traces the entire life of a wind turbine — from construction to decommissioning — and looks at how to design better indicators that don’t just focus on energy output.
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These episodes are part of the free training module ‘Leadership in Transitions’, but we think they’re a great listen on their own as well. You can find more info on justwind4all.eu. 
Special thanks to: speakers Samuel Wrobel and Cristina Madrid López, Theo Jansen for interview and inspiration, Marius Kooij for editing and music, Derk Loorbach and Audrey Wientjes for voice-over, Igno Notermans for feedback and support and Julia Wittmayer as well as the entire JustWind4All project team for making this possible.