Episode 60: Can you really build an $8 billion SaaS startup by yourself using AI agents? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with Matan Grinberg (https://x.com/matansf), a physicist, AI founder, and creator of Factory AI—one of Silicon Valley’s best-kept secrets. Matan has published papers alongside luminaries and built a company trusted by top VCs and tech insiders.
In this episode, Nathan and Matan dive deep into the power and practicality of Factory AI—an agentic software platform that allows anyone to build full-featured SaaS applications using only natural language. After years of focusing on large enterprise clients and remaining under the radar, Factory AI is now opening up to everyone and revealing what’s possible when state-of-the-art “droids” (purpose-built AI agents) collaborate to automate the entire software development lifecycle. Watch them attempt to build a DocuSign competitor in minutes live on the show, and explore how AI is changing the future of engineering, entrepreneurship, and creative problem-solving.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) Enterprise-Focused Product Expansion
(05:45) Engineering Task Automation Tools
(07:01) Quick Project Setup Outline
(10:43) AI Revolutionizing Software Development
(14:29) Customer-Centric Problem Solving
(18:10) Progress Through Efficiency Improvements
(19:22) Agency: The New Success Metric
(24:54) Expanding Product to Small Teams
(25:38) Unified Platform for Software Development
(30:44) Importance of Foundational Knowledge
(33:55) Technology: Rise, Apex, and Decline
(35:40) Future Technology Beyond Smartphones
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Matt Grinberg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matan-grinberg/
Factory: https://www.factory.ai/
Docusign: https://www.docusign.com/
Shaun Maguire: https://x.com/shaunmmaguire
Sequoia: https://www.sequoiacap.com/
Datadog: https://www.datadoghq.com/
Sentry: https://sentry.io/
Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/
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Can This AI Predict the Billion-Dollar Startup?
Episode 59: Can artificial intelligence accurately predict the next billion-dollar startup? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) are joined by Jager McConnell (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jager/), CEO of Crunchbase and a leading product and data innovator in the tech and investment landscape.
In this episode, the hosts dive deep into how Crunchbase has evolved into an AI-powered platform for investors, sales teams, job seekers, and anyone looking to get ahead in the startup ecosystem. Jager shares details on Crunchbase’s cutting-edge prediction engine, which uses proprietary data, AI, and machine learning to forecast company fundraising, acquisitions, growth, and more. Find out how data signals can reveal when companies are preparing to raise rounds, how sales teams and investors can identify trends before the crowd, and why democratizing predictive analytics might reshape the entire investing world.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI-Driven Corporate Prediction Engine
(03:43) Predicting Company Fundraising Timelines
(06:50) Predictive Accuracy in Fundraising
(11:15) API Prediction Score Integration
(12:23) Programmatic Insights with Crunchbase
(15:42) User Data to Investment Shift
(20:58) Future AI Industry Heat Score
(23:38) AI-Driven Business Workflow Evolution
(27:20) AI-Driven Sales Conversations
(29:41) Crunchbase Trends and Rankings
(31:53) Podcast Appreciation and Subscription Invitation
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Jager McConnell: https://www.crunchbase.com/person/jager-mcconnell
Crunchbase: https://www.crunchbase.com/
TensorFlow: https://www.tensorflow.org/
Replit: https://replit.com/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
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• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Will AI Replace Amazon? The Future of Shopping Revealed
Episode 58: What does the future of shopping look like as artificial intelligence weaves itself deeper into how we buy and sell online? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) sits down with Ajay Bam (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajaybam), CEO of Vyrill—a Silicon Valley startup revolutionizing shoppable video—to reveal the seismic changes AI is bringing to e-commerce, social discovery, influencer marketing, and everything in between.
In this episode, Nathan and Ajay uncover how Gen Z and beyond are shopping via authentic short-form videos, the power shift from mega-influencers to everyday creators, and how AI-driven platforms like Vyrill are making it possible to instantly search inside videos for the exact info you need before buying. Ajay shares real-world examples of brands doubling sales by making their video content searchable—and why the brands who nail video trust will dominate the next wave of e-commerce. They also discuss what ChatGPT-powered shopping means for traditional giants like Amazon, and break down actionable strategies for businesses and creators to thrive in this new era.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) AI Revolutionizing Shopping Experience
(03:15) Authenticity Outshines Celebrity Endorsements
(09:21) Video Search and Personalization Challenges
(11:42) Integrate Social Videos on E-commerce
(14:43) Comprehensive Video Content Searchability
(16:35) Boost E-commerce with Integrated Videos
(21:57) Japan: Automated Shopping Concept
(25:03) Video Demographic Analysis Tool
(29:05) E-commerce Video Content Solutions
(30:20) Gemini 2.5 Promotion Idea
(33:22) Emphasizing AI Training and Tools
(35:50) Explore Vyrill.com on LinkedIn
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Ajay Bam: https://www.vyrill.com/about
Vyrill: https://www.vyrill.com/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
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40:01
The Secret AI Prompt Tool Silicon Valley Engineers Are Using
Episode 57: Can simply "Vibe coding" with AI really replace the need for deep code context when building real applications? Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) is joined by Eric Provencher (https://x.com/pvncher), founder of Repo Prompt and an XR engineer at Unity, to reveal the secret AI prompt tool quietly powering Silicon Valley’s top engineers.
This episode dives deep into why the current trend of "Vibe coding" with tools like Cursor often falls apart for complex tasks — and how Repo Prompt closes the gap by letting you build effective, highly targeted context for AI coding. Eric breaks down the philosophy behind contextual prompting, gives a live demo, and shares how Repo Prompt’s unique features like the context builder and codemaps give power-users real control over LLMs like Gemini and Claude. Beyond coding, they discuss implications for the future of engineering, learning, and the evolution of dev tools in the age of AI.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) Vibe Coding Myths Unveiled
(03:15) Repo Navigation for Flutter Devs
(06:37) Gemini 2.5 Extends Model Context
(11:18) Automating File Rewrites with AI
(15:33) The Next AI Wave
(20:58) MCP: User-Customizable Tool Integration
(23:53) Efficient AI Tool Integration
(28:32) XR Interaction Toolkit Developer
(31:01) AI's Impact on Coding Learning
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Eric Provencher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/provencher/
Repo Prompt: https://repoprompt.com/
Unity: https://unity.com/ai
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/en
Gemini: https://gemini.google.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
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38:07
Everything You Need To Know About A.I. Avatars in 2025
Interested in creating your own avatar just like Matt and Adam discuss in this episode? Get the complete guide here: https://clickhubspot.com/aft
Episode 56: Is it possible to build a thriving content strategy—without ever stepping in front of a camera? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) is joined by guest Adam Biddlecombe (https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-bidd/), founder of Mindstream, the daily AI newsletter now owned by HubSpot. Adam has rapidly grown his audience (especially on LinkedIn) while openly hating making videos. His solution? Becoming an expert in AI avatar tools to handle his video content creation.
In this episode, Matt and Adam dive deep into the world of AI avatars: the tools, the workflow, the best approaches for maximizing quality, and how these avatars are powering everything from viral Instagram channels to hyper-personalized B2B outreach. Whether you’re camera-shy, looking to scale your personal brand, or curious about the ethical and business implications of AI-driven video, this is the ultimate guide to the current landscape (and what’s coming next) for AI videos—straight from the creators who use them every day.
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Show Notes:
(00:00) Name Changes and Synthesia's Evolution
(05:30) Testing Avatar Models: Heygen Analysis
(09:17) Instagram Enhances AI for Age Detection
(10:59) Video Recording Challenges
(14:53) AI Influencers: Expanding Industry Trends
(18:54) Personalized AI Videos Boost Retention
(19:43) AI-Driven Email Personalization Trends
(25:19) Scamming Risks in Voice Tech
(28:02) UGC Avatars for Advertising Innovation
(32:13) Create Your Own Brand Mascot
(33:03) Brand-Interactive Avatars Revolution
(38:59) Enhancing Efficiency with Proficient Editors
(40:40) Challenges in Avatar Creation
(42:56) Microphone Usage Guidelines
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Want to Create your own AI Avatars? Get the guide here: https://clickhubspot.com/aft
Adam Biddlecombe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-bidd/
Mindstream: https://www.mindstream.news/
Synthesia: https://www.synthesia.io/
HeyGen: https://www.heygen.com/
Clay: https://www.clay.com/
Wonder Studio: https://wonderdynamics.com/
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• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/
• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
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Blog - https://lore.com/
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